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Everybody is for Obamacare, Everyone is against

Posted: Mar 31, 2011

Read the complete article: BTW it says Rasmussen is skewed.

http://www.thisweekinsociology.com/?p=225

Here’s a guide to what those polls actually say, beginning with a discussion of the basic mistake which almost all the polls make.

Most of the major national polls on Obamacare choose to report findings on what percentage of Americans support the health care reform and what percentage favor its repeal. This simple distinction, braking public opinion into big blocs, immediately produces grave distortions. The reality, which most polls actually understand, is that roughly half of all Americans cannot really be said either to “support” Obamacare or to want its “repeal.”

What most reports fail to say is that there are actually five major positions:

Repeal the present bill and do not replace it.
Repeal the present bill and replace it.
Amend the present bill in some way.
Accept the present bill.
Expand the present bill.

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It may say Rasmussen is skewed but the fact - of the matter is they are

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always closer than any other poll in predicting how elections will turn out..they were the ONLY ones not surprised by the huge Demo losses at midterms.

I stopped looking at polls basically when most of them missed the mark so badly at midterms, and if I look at any I look at Rasmussen because of their track record and take theirs with a grain of salt.

What matters regarding Obamacare is that the message was sent loud and clear to Washington that the majority of people did not want it. Obama did not listen and he used his majority in Congress to steamroll it on through, effectively telling half the country he really didn't care what we thought.

Though the polls predicted modest Democrat losses, the people spoke in the voting booth not to pollsters and it was, as Obama called it, a shellacking.

WHich goes to show you that a lot of the common folk in the flyover states are out working when the pollsters call or just don't talk to them, but they are there when the polls open.

Just sayin.

The majority of "the people" want health care reform - Do you only count if you are a "likely voter" ?

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Rasmussen is not valid when you state "the majority of the people," as you are only counting likely voters. All those low-income people, children, and the disabled would differ with you as to whether or not they should also count.

So which low-income people and disabled people can't vote? - Kendra

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The beauty of our country--you get to vote, even if you you are poor or disabled. Children don't get to vote because they lack the capacity to truly understand what they are voting for, so, in a word, no, they should not count.

The Republicans continually try to make it more difficult - sm

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for the poor and disabled to vote. So they are unlikely voters. I think children without insurance should be counted in "the majority" of American's who are in favor of health care reform.

LOL ! What garbage. You have no proof of that.nm - Please

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A simple Google search - no1joe

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can provide proof. It's easy. Here's the first thing I stumbled across within 2 seconds: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/06/AR2011030602662.html?sid=ST2011031002881

There's more info out there... plenty of it. Is the latest trend on this board trying to discredit someone's opinion by demanding proof? It just clogs up the post.

The only problem I see with your link is... - students SHOULD be under

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the same voting regulations as the rest of us. If they are residents of a state other than the one they are going to school in, they should have to return to their home districts to vote. Couldn't that be accomplished with an absentee ballot? I don't think they should NOT be allowed to vote, but they should be under the same voting regs the rest of us are. That is not trying to stop them from voting...only to observe the same regulations the rest of us do? That also would preclude being able to vote twice...once in their home district and once where they are going to school.

Most live where they go to school - and visit parent's homes on breaks

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to do their laundry.

Fine. Is it reallly hard to request an absentee - ballot 30 days ahead of

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time and send it in? Really?? They could pick one up when they go home to do laundry.

lol. geez.

I always voted absentee in my home town - while I was in college.

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I never really thought it was that big of a deal.

Why should they vote absentee when they live there? - geez

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taking away the rights of young adults to choose where they live? geez, geez.

It's a temporary arrangement when college kids live in a college town. - Backwards Typist

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Why shouldn't they vote where their permanent residence is? Absentee ballots are not hard to get nor to fill out. "geez, geez."

They will probably never return to their "home town" - That argument does not hold water.

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Neither does yours. - Backwards Typist

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But that's not the point. The point is a college dorm/apartment/rental house is NOT their permanent residence. The home they came from is considered their permanent residence, whether they go back home or not.

There are plenty of college kids who go back home for a while after graduating from college until they get their first job or just to decide what they really want out of life.

I think "continually" is misleading, and if you - look actually at what

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is being suggested, it is not that honorous. I agree that same-day registration to vote should not be allowed. That is where rampant vote fraud happens (can we all say Acorn), gathering up busloads of indigents, yada yada. It happens over and over. Voter registration DOES need to take place AT LEAST 30 days before an election. Period. That is not targeting anybody.

I have believed for a very long time that state-issued ID should be presented when you vote to, again, stop voter fraud which we ALL know happens and happens on a large scale. They say that is targeting poor blacks and college students, which is silly. You can go into a driver's license bureau and get a state -issued ID for very little money. yes, you do have to prove you are a citizen of the US..but if you can't, you shouldn't be voting.

The only reason this is an issue is because of the unfortunate comment of one speaker of the house in what state I don't remember saying that college kids have no life experience and always vote liberal because that is the "in" thing to do...which in many cases is true, but they can vote for whoever they want for whatever reason they want. It is no more of a faux pas than Charles Schumer made on his phone call issuing marching orders to the left faithful, or the ones that fall out of Biden's mouth nearly every time he opens it. Just like Joe's opinion does not speak for Obama and all Democrats, that one speaker of the house does not speak for the entire GOP. Yet all the headlines we see are GOP WANTS TO KEEP COLLEGE STUDENTS FROM VOTING.

I am so SICK of the deliberate misinformation on BOTH sides.

and I forgot about North Carolina not wanting - to use college-issued

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ID cards as IDs to vote...they issue them to all students whether they are American citizens or not. Foreign students who are not citizens should NOT be allowed to vote. That is why there should be state-issued ID's, yet that is what the Dems are touting as trying to keep students from voting.

It is maddening how these disinformation campaigns get started and then propagated by people...no1joe seems like an educated, thoughtful person and to post that article, which I am sure he/she read, to support that the GOP are trying to keep college kids from voting when that is not the case at all...unless no1joe thinks same-day registration is okay, letting students use student ID cards as ID to be able to vote is okay, and having to prove you are a citizen of the US before you can vote is wrong...

shaking head here, just don't get it.

Not the OP but they also are elminating Demo votes from poor people who - don't have photo IDs and cannot afford to get them

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Of course many Republicans have always believed that poor people should not vote anyway because they anyone without money is a loser.

How dare they want you to prove you are who you say you are - to vote?

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Do you really think that there are people who cannot afford to get an ID? I don't buy it, especially with a welfare system that will feed and house most people who are low income or without income, as well as provide additional spending money. Heck, the government even subsidizes cell phones for poor people. I just don't buy the premise of the argument.

Yes, there are people who are too poor to get photo IDs - It is a way to keep them from voting

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I don't like the method. If given a choice between buying food or getting a photo ID, the very poor will choose to feed their family that day rather than vote. That's not what America is all about, but it is a very slick maneuver by the Republicans. It will work for them.

Still not buying it - Those same poor people are

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probably feeding their families from takeout restaurants while watching their cable tv, the whole time lamenting how they are too poor to get a photo ID. They probably compare expensive tattoos, as well. I really think that we are a nation with screwed up priorities.

True colors shown - nm

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Exactly. Republicans consider them unworthy of voting - especially since they know who cares about the poo

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The Republicans know that the poor recognize who does and doesn't care about them. They don't want those votes to count.

Go to the top and view 150 years of racism - by Democrats...

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They tried from the time of the emancipation to keep black people from getting the vote. And when they got the vote because Republicans were finally able to get enough votes to outvote the Dems, what did the Dems do? Trot out the war on poverty and all those social programs that have gotten us into the spending mess we are in today. They didn't care about black people at ALL until they got beat keeping them from voting...and once they became a voting block, suddenly who cared about them? You guessed it. The Democrats.

If they really cared about them (the Democrats) - and were not trying to

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protect their voting fraud schemes, why not go down to skid row and take all those folks down and pay the $5 bucks for a photo ID, and then they can go back on election day and round them all up and make sure they all have their IDs, and THEN give them the $10 and haul them to the polls.

Come ON.

WOW! - no1joe

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Did you learn that from Fox?

Sorry, but photo IDs should be required and are required - Backwards Typist

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for various dealings such as cashing checks, bank accounts, driving a car, etc.

I just don't understand why this shouldn't be required by everyone 18 and above. What proof is used to collect welfare or Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security? Do they just give it to them and take that person at their word that they are who they are? Aren't they are required to show some sort of proof of who they are? I think it would be preferable and great if photo ID would have to be shown to get on those programs...so why shouldn't be that way for voting?

More bull from the other side. Smearing a group to further their agenda does not make me like the 'smearer'. It just turns me off that person/group.

I've never had to show photo ID in order to vote - or to register to vote

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I did. no message - Backwards Typist

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don't you think that is odd? - sm

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I have to pull out my ID each time I vote. Our Secretary of State requires it. I have no problem with it at all.

I did, and was glad to do it. And to top that - off, I had to show my

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long form birth certificate to get my DL in the same state. They wouldn't take the COLB, it had to be the long form. He can be prez without it but I couldn't get a DL without it. LOL, now that is ironic!

Point being...if you cannot prove you are an American citizen you have NO BUSINESS voting in American elections. Period. It is not like it is going to cost these people hundreds of dollars forever. In that same state you could get a state photo ID for 5 bucks. Do without one pack of cigarettes and there's your ID.

Puleezze.

you have to have photo ID to apply for govt assistance/nm - icedT

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Then why don't the Democrats do the - responsible thing and

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subsidize these folks with an ID? Apparently they don't care that much that they are able to vote.

In PA when I lived there it cost 5 bucks to get a picture ID. Five bucks! Are you kidding me? Don't buy one pack of cigarettes and you can buy a picture ID.

You really want illegals and foreign students voting in our elections...oh sorry of course you do...as long as they vote Democrat...so you can round them all up on election day and hand them 10 bucks )which incidentally would pay for their picture ID if you took them to get THOSE 30 days before the election, but that wouldn't work because you couldn't take them straight to the polls and"suggest" who they vote
for.

The Dems are amazing. Wanting to protect their right to engage in voter fraud with no restrictions.

Yes, there are - no1joe

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people who cannot afford to get an ID. Without a doubt. You have urban areas where people rely on public transportation and they can barely afford it. Living in a city, you'll find that that additional spending money goes nowhere. You also have working poor and lower middle class who cannot afford to take the day off work in order to go get ID. You'll find seniors in the same situation too. Not everyone has it easy.

working without an ID? - icedT

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No, in order to be employed in the US, you have to prove you are eligible to work here, and that includes a photo ID and Social Secuirity card.

Seniors have to have photo IDs too if they want Medicare. From the site: http://www.seniorcorps.org/medicare/how-do-i-renew-my-medicare-card/

"Steps For Making Medicare Card Renewals Easy. 1) Two types of photo identification. 2) Card Renewal Notice."

And public transportation? There's this from SanFranciso:
Cash fares:
    Customers who have a valid discount ID may travel on Muni for $0.75 per trip. Discount ID for customers include the following valid:
        RTC Discount ID;
        DMV disabled placard registrations plus photo ID, or
        discount card from another transit agency in California plus photo ID.
    Seniors (65+) also pay $0.75 per trip. Seniors are not required to obtain an RTC Discount Card, and can use any valid ID. Forms of ID for seniors are a valid:
        Senior ID,
        RTC Discount Card,
        driver's license,
        California ID or,
        government-issued passport.
    Medicare card holders may travel on Muni for $0.75 per trip. They must present their Medicare card and a valid photo ID.
http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mcust/access.htm

These arguments that seniors and low-income don't have photo IDs is not holding water.

They don't have to get a DL. They can get a state - photo ID at most DL places.

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In the state where I live it is 5 bucks. It is hard plastic, like a DL, it just has your name and address and picture on it.

I don't care what you say, there is not one person you describe above who could not afford a one-time fee of $5. The only reason you would have to get another is when you get so old the pic doesn't look like you anymore. By that time surely you could have saved another 5 bucks...or 10 bucks considering the way things are going up.

Now that is as stupid a statement as I have - EVER heard.

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blanket statement or no, it ranks #1 on the stupid list. Do you know who kept the emancipated slaves from being able to vote even after freedom? It wasn't the Republicans who incidentally went to war to free them (yes, Lincoln a Republican)...it was the Democrats, and they used a poll tax, just as you describe, so that the poor freed Negroes could not vote even though a war had been fought to free them. It was the Republicans who forced through the law in the 60's...the civil rights bill, remember that one...past all the Democrats who voted AGAINST it. Republicans have been fighting for ALL blacks, poor or not poor, to vote since they were in chains.

That is why your statement is stupid and you should educate yourself before going off like that.

Shame on you.

The reason liberals don't have a problem - with no ID to vote, etc.

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is because it creates a bigger opportunity for voter fraud and allows illegals to vote. Illegals obviously will vote democrat since democrats promise them a bunch of free crap that we as a country cannot afford. So of course they won't those people to be able to vote and HATE republicans for trying to stop that.

Why all the extremism in your comments? - Is that really necessary?

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I guess it is or you wouldn't be doing it.

"All of your posts?" - Please identify for me which posts

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belong to this poster because I am betting that some you are attributing to this person are mine. How exactly do you differentiate one "extremist" from another? I certainly can't differentiate one extreme liberal from another on this board, unless of course, they post under the same name all of the time.

I posted the article - no1joe

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in response to the drive-by post that the other person's statement was "garbage" and that they had "no proof," a trend on this board as of late which is getting a little out of hand. It's trying to cast doubt on a poster's credibility because they didn't provide a link, but it just doesn't hold water. We're all smart cookies here, and a Google search is very easy to do, as is staying on top of current events. It took me less than 5 seconds to come across this doing a basic web search.

Anyhow, anyone can form any opinion they want on the subject. I wasn't necessarily agreeing or not agreeing with the other person (I intentionally left my opinion out of the post) but rather disagreeing with the statement that it was "garbage" because no link was provided. That's all.

facts - icedT

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Clogging up the post? Facts don't clog up anything. I think facts do just the opposite-they clear the way and make it easier to have a civil discussion.

When a statement is made like, "The Republicans are (or the Democrats or the Tea Party, etc)..." that statement should be recognized as an opinion. It should only be recognized as a fact if there is something credible to back it up.

If I were to post something like, "Democrats continually want to stop job creation," I would bet my next house payment that someone would ask for facts to back it up (and rightly so). Show us the facts and then we can debate and discuss.

how - sm

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I'm curious...how do the Republicans continually try to make it more difficult for the poor and disabled to vote?

Like having threatening Black Panthers outside of voting booths? - Wait, that was the Republicans, was it.

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How do Republicans make it difficult for poor and disabled people to vote? I would like to read your answer. I am betting it will at least be entertaining.

Nope, wasn\'t Republicans....and what about - the SEIU beating folks

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up? Look at the other side of the coin...Democrats HELPING people vote. Here\'s the bus and 10 bucks, let us take you to the polling place. And Acorn...gotta love Acorn. Signing up people using the starting lineup of the Yankees. LOL.

I actually meant "wasn't the Republicans, was it?" - It's early :)

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All of those evil conservatives, not wanting people to vote, while Democrats want even dead people to be able to vote, as long as they vote Democrat!

Looks you are awake now, and right on - target! :-) nm

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Children with no insurance have no concept of the - Kendra

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long term ramifications of Obamacare or any other health care reform, for that matter. They simply, like I said, lack the capacity to understand these complicated matters, so their opinions of any health care reform should not matter. Ask my 4-year-old if he thinks that everyone should be allowed to see the doctor when they are sick, he will say yes. Word the question a little differently and ask him if someone else should have to pay for someone to go to the doctor when he/she is sick, he will say no. He really can't grasp the entire concept and is easily manipulated, as most children are. He knows that I do not like Obamacare, so he is likely to be against that.

As far as health care reform goes, I do think that some sort of reform would be beneficial, as I have stated before, just not the mess that we got. Is that what you are talking about when you say that most Americans want health care reform, or are you talking about Obama's mess of a bill that has already issues thousands of waivers?

Basically yes....these polls are done to reflect - how people are likely to vote.

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that's how political parties determine what are the hot button issues to pound on prior to an election. Rasmussen is not saying low income people, children and the disabled don't count...but if they can't vote, frankly, the political parties aren't interested in what they think. They look at polls to see which way the political wind is blowing.

Surprised you didn't know that.

Also, Rsmussen gets a better sampling...Gallup is a close second. However, usually polls done by media organizations poll areas that will reflect what they want them to...a poll conducted in large metropolitan areas will be very different from a poll in smaller towns and rural areas.

Please furnish proof to support your rating of the poll - Thanks

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You've stated very strongly that you know which one is best. Please furnish proof to support your claims if you don't mind. You are very confident in what you have stated. It would be interesting to know how you got all that knowledge. Not saying you don't know what you're talking about, but please furnish proof.

polling - sm

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When a poll is posted here, the person who posted it has to also link to the pollster's track record? No.

There are a handful of pollsters who are highly respected, Rasmussen is one of them. People are free to take the pollster information and dissect it to pieces if they want. They are also free to verify on their own what polling companies they want to believe and do their own research on that particular polling company's methods. Education is powerful.

By the way, I'm not the OP.

Here are a few...a Google search will - yield more...

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as to the accuracy of Rasmussen polls...

http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/poll%20accuracy%20in%20the%202008%20presidential%20election.pdf

http://www.mason-dixon.com/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.Article&ContentRecord_id=f1e66ca1-1372-fa49-99bd-58f6c5a4e505

http://washingtonindependent.com/30539/rasmussen-the-only-poll-that-matters

http://race42012.com/2008/11/06/poll-accuracy-in-the-race-4-2008/

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/10/the-rasmussen-effect/

It is an "untruth" (lie) to say the majority of Americans - do not want health care reform

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I am surprised that not everyone gets that.

they do want reform - but not Obamacare/nm

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So you want health care reform but you don't like the name Obamacare? - sm

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Call it whatever you want. There has never been a large-scale bill that did not need to be tweaked, refined, etc., just like any project worth doing.

Well, I guess you could not call it T-party-care because that would be the ultimate oxymoron.

I don't think it needs tweaking--it needs a do-over - And I don't really care what you call it.

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Come on, now. Really?

It is blatantly apparent now that even they - (Dems) did not really

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think it through themselves, with the thousands od waivers coming in and all the constitutional lawsuits...they just wanted to pass SOMETHING while they still had the majority so they could tout it in the 2012 election. Don't think they will be touting it much now.

They would have been better served to do the tweaking before they passed it, and debated it with the Republicans instead of thumbing their noses at process and at a good portion of the American people.

Ah, the best laid plans...

how impressive.. - nh

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..that you actually know how the majority of Americans think! Is that personal knowledge or just more ___ based on your own personal bias? puhleez, no one, repeat no one, knows how the majority of Americans think, only those they bother to communicate with. I would say the voting booth is a pretty good reflection of what the majority think. And we can see the majority was not all that happy with the democratic agenda at the last election, and the proof is, as they say, in the result.

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1) If this bill is so wonderful, then why have Obama and Pelosi resorted to bribes, threats, and arm-twisting to get the votes? The "compassionate" Demonrats should be falling all over themselves to support it. (This one's rheotorical; their actions speak for themselves.) 2) If this bill is so great, why don't members of Congress volunteer to be the guinea pigs so we can all see how it works? (ANSWER: Because the "elites" [political class ...

Aug 20, 2010
"As discussed here, four Massachusetts hospitals now must cope with having thousands of patient records discovered in a public dump. And these records contain vital private information such as SSNs, health details, phone numbers, etc. In other words, everything required to have one’s identity stolen. Also, highly private personal medical details which could be harmful if disclosed in the wrong context. Already, overseas transcription services have been the basis for medical records extorti ...

Aug 03, 2010
Good grief! Take a look at this chart... If you think that this byzantine bureaucratic structure will result in anything but justification of expansion of government, you are smoking crack! AMERICA'S NEW HEALTH CARE SYSTEM REVEALED UPDATED CHART SHOWS OBAMACARE'S BEWILDERING COMPLEXITY Washington, D.C. - Four months after U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi famously declared "We have to pass the bill so you can ...

Jul 30, 2012
An Indiana company that makes medical devices has cancelled plans to build five new plants in the Midwest and may now build them overseas due to the abominable tax provisions that will hit medical device companies. In the case of Cook Medical, they estimate the added tax would be $15 to $20 million. This is money that cannot be used for expansion (read, jobs). I'm so glad they passed Obamacare "so we could find out what's in it" (Empress Pelosi of San Francisco). Well, we' ...

Sep 09, 2012
Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, who promised early in his campaign to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, says he would keep several important parts of the overhaul.‘‘Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I’m going to put in place,’’ he said in an interview broadcast Sunday on NBC’s ‘‘Meet the Press.’’ ‘’One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage.’’Romney a ...

Sep 15, 2012
A lot of long-time MTs are middle-aged. A lot of MTs would love to leave their MTSO jobs if they could find a better job in their community. A lot of job-seekers are discouraged because they get little or no response on job apps with other employers. A lot of age discrimination can happen discreetly, by either noting your "25 years" of experience at your last job (if not just by looking at you if you DO get called for an interview). I've been told that one reason e ...

Sep 20, 2012
I think I know what Obama's doing today. He's trying to figure out how he can discredit ANOTHER source of bad news when it comes to Obamacare. The problem is that once again it's the CBO. Regulations are going to cost 20 times the original estimate. Average hit to the middle class rises. Barry, even Jimmy Carter - the worst President in American history - wasn't as much of a mutt as you are. I'm sure he's breathing a sign of relief today. ...

Nov 04, 2012
Obamacare or Romneycare, we will be screwed either way. They both are responsible for this horrific healthcare situation. In each case it is death care. Not voting for either of these crumb bumbs. ...

Nov 09, 2012
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/29/Seven-new-taxes Mr. Obama’s promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000 is just another falsehood associated with this legislation. ...

Jan 10, 2013
Since the CNN message was pretty far below, I'm reposting this from the Act itself, it states (don'cha just luv legalease?) IMHO, the first paragraph is just telling the truth. (e) Section 2717 of the Public Health Service Act, as added by section 1001(5) of this Act, <<NOTE: 42 USC 300gg-17.>> is amended-- (1) by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections &nb ...