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Another Obamacare Win: Red State Montana House Passes Medicaid Expansion


Posted: Apr 11, 2015

Montana’s Republican-controlled House voted Thursday, 54-46, to approve federal subsidies for Medicaid expansion. Although Democrats are outnumbered 59-41 in the Montana House, a unified Democratic caucus joined forces with 13 Republicans who defected from their party’s leadership, to push Senate Bill 405 through the House chamber. The bill would expand Medicaid coverage to between 27,000 and 46,000 low-income Montanans who earn less than 138 percent of the federal poverty level. All 41 House Democrats approved the Medicaid expansion. Republicans opposed it 46-13, but the 13 defectors were enough to tip the balance to pass the measure. House Republican leaders tried to kill the bill, but they were unable to keep their party unified in opposition. One defector, Rep. Geraldine Custer (R-Forsyth) argued in defense of the bill, noting that its main beneficiaries would be the working poor. Custer stated: "They (the working poor) are not people who are lying on the couch, waiting for a handout. Why should they be penalized and not able to afford health care?…This bill is a Montana solution for the Montana people who are too rich for (current) Medicaid but too poor for (help from) the Affordable Care Act." Another Republican proponent, Rob Cook, who represents the rural community of Conrad, urged fellow Republicans to support the measure. Cook implored his colleagues: "I think this is the right thing to do, it’s the right time to do it. Let’s pass this bill." A dozen Republicans listened and did just that. The bill, as amended by the House is expected to pass the State Senate, and be sent to the desk of Montana’s Democratic Governor Steve Bullock. While Bullock has not yet identified whether or not he will sign the bill, his top health adviser has testified in favor of SB 405 in legislative committee hearings, so supporters of Medicaid expansion have good reason to be optimistic. Medicaid expansion is a common sense idea that brings affordable health care to the working poor who live paycheck to paycheck to make ends meet and have little left over to cover the costs of health care. The Montana plan would lock premiums in at two percent of the recipient’s income. It is the kind of common sense, compassionate approach to health care that the Republican Party leadership has rejected in state after state. Yet, in several states, including Montana, a small number of Republicans have defected from the toxic ideology of the Tea Party leadership. By joining Democrats in putting their constituents ahead of anti-government party orthodoxy, 13 Montana Republicans may have just helped tens of thousands of residents qualify for affordable health care under Medicaid expansion. In a state as red as Montana, that is no small accomplishment. ******* Having survived the initial vote of 54-46 late Thursday, the final vote this morning was 54-42 and passed today, Saturday. I actually see this as a turning point for the GOP. Kudos to those Republican legislators for putting their constituents' needs ahead of the fringe wing and Tea Party anti-healthcare wing of the GOP. It shouldn't be too long now until the Governor of MT signs this bill into law. Way to go MT! Another red state flipped, and now if HHS signs off on their plan, Montana will be the 29th state, plus the District of Columbia, to take up the Obamacare option.;

Not for the poor schlubbs being forced onto Medicaid. - No win there are all; losses all around

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No one is being FORCED into Medicaid. They are being....sm - VTMT

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given the opportunity to have health insurance and receive medical care that they were too poor to afford before.

That's crap. Poor people have always been able - to get medical care.

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Someone needs their party glasses cleaned. There were over 500 programs for the - poor before Obamacare.
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These programs helped with everything from medical care, housing, food, transportation, education, medication costs, in-home services for the disabled, free clinics, the Health Departments offered free services.

Obamacare sycophants refuse to ever talk about any of those. Obamacare NOT about health care; only about total control.

Because of Obamacare, very, very few doctors in my area will accept that or Medicaid now because of the mess Obama has made of the health insurance and Obamacare total control, dictating what/how patients are to be treated from Washington DC...yeah - that's a lot better (roll eyes, insert heavy sarcastic tone - this should be an easy task for some on this board...others will need to work at it a little harder).

Shouldn't these people looking to the "over 500 programs" for - sm
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"everything from medical care, housing, food, transportation, education, medication costs, in-home services for the disabled, free clinics" and whatever they're mooching just stop whining that Obamacare has somehow taken away their gravy train of programs and get off their butts and seek employment that will pay them enough to stop living off the wages of other people? Did Obamacare take their gravy train of "over 500 programs" away? Why are people blaming the government if their gravy train is gone? Why not blame the people who ran the gravy train programs for taking the gravy train programs away from them?

Don't conservatives refer to these people as "takers" who need to get a job and stop living off other people? Why are they blaming government for their problems? Get a good job and stop being takers living off programs, right?
HERE'S THE USUAL ANONYMOUS MISREPRESENTATION OF - POST MERELY TO ATTACK. NO CONTENT.
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Get this, every first-world countries, and some second,...sm - VTMT
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all supply health care and many other benefits to their citizens as a right.
The 13 million people that now have healthcare insurance...sm - Alice
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that did not have it before matter and are grateful.
And the 25 million that have lost their health insurance - are not.
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nm is needed.
13 million MORE people are now insured than before. nm - VTMT
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And the lies about so many more being covered is just that - smellythecat
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Then why was my grandmother, a federal employee retiree, paying $400/month for meds in 2007? - Independent Thinker
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I missed this post earlier today. Allllrighty then. I think it's time for a reality check, shall we?

Because even though I made it clear this morning that Obamacare needs work and I'm independent, it just absolutely flat-out amazes me how much "pretending" goes on that life was rosy and healthcare was so great before Obama, and that the economy fell AFTER Obama took office rather than before. Now, I will listen and understand Republican opinion all day, if they make a good point, but things cavalierly said like this aren't an example of them.

In fact, inane things said like this are always uttered by elitists who have no idea of what life was like in the real world for people that weren't born to perfect white Christian parents with silver spoons in their mouths, huge families or stable husbands as safety nets for them if/when bad things happened to them in life, and the only reason they're complaining now is Obamacare has let them feel - for the very first time in their insulated, safe little lives - what it's like to really struggle.

Oh, there were 500 programs before Obamacare? Gee, we never thought of that, at the time. Apparently you were blissfully unaware that these programs weren't available everywhere, and even if they were, you've no idea how hard it actually was to GET these programs or even on a 2-year waiting list for them if you were working. Or if you chose not to or were ineligible, but still couldn't afford employer health insurance, you ended up at the free/sliding-fee clinic because you caught pneumonia and thus had to show up at 4 a.m. because the clinic was only open every Friday and HOPE you got in before the cut off.

Now I'm sorry if I make whomever mad in saying this, but now there's somebody else below actually crying because you can't have your choice of doctors anymore, are you kidding me with that? I didn't have any doctor for 10 years before Obamacare, so I was grateful there even WAS one free/sliding scale clinic in town to stand in line for at 4 a.m!

Apparently, you are unaware the reason Obamacare was supposed to be implemented was to offer competition to regulate market prices to offset the rising cost of healthcare already out of control, but it failed regardless of "supposed" intent.

For example, my grandmother was the first woman to manage the first federal agricultural office in our state in 1942, created by the federal government under Roosevelt as an effort to control over-production of crops in response to the depression (overproduction actually further weakening the economy). There was first a man in that role, but when he went to war, my grandmother took the 'temporary' role, but ended up running it for 36 years.

As a federal-employee retiree, she had fantastic insurance for her family for life (grandfather was a farmer) until 2002, when at age 86, it was suddenly slashed dramatically, resulting in thousands in out-of-pocket expenses after heart surgeries and $400 a month for meds via mail order that often never showed up.

Too proud to ever tell us how bad things were or ask for help, in a few years, her savings and income dwindled so fast, by the time we became aware of how bad things really were, the economy fell (2008), she was terminally ill, and her 3 grandchildren were not in any position to help her. (Her only child, my mother, had "helped" - by draining her bank account.) So she had the pleasure of watching her entire life savings drain away before she died, dying in poverty after a remarkable life for a woman. Yes, we and the doctor's offices frantically checked into those "500 programs", what was even available in our state, but she was ineligible because she had private insurance and Medicare which didn't cover half of them by that point.

Obamacare was not the answer, no, but I really cannot sit here any longer and listen to another person talk about the "good old days" of Bush before Obamacare because it just wasn't so. And look, I'm really sorry some of you are struggling now, I truly am. But to those whining about Obamacare who also have callously said below on this forum, just last weekend, to or about people you even THINK are lazy slackers responsible for their own poverty, I will say to you the exact same thing you said to them:

"Welcome to our world, the real one. Now QUIT CRYING AND EXPECTING THE GOVERNMENT TO FIX EVERYTHING FOR YOU, PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS AND DEAL WITH IT"

Vent/rant over :)
Nope. Only the disabled and single mothers (until the child was age 2) in my state until 11/2013 - Independent Thinker
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If that were true, there wouldn't have been any need at all for Obamacare and it wouldn't have passed Congress to begin with.

You could get a "spindown" card in my state special cases of emergency, but there were certain conditions. Children always could get a spindown medicaid under emergency. But even children didn't have health government insurance past age 2, in my state, until 1996, but not the parents, even if their employers didn't offer it, their employers kept them under 35 hours so they couldn't receive what they offered, or they simply just couldn't afford employer insurance if it was offered on their salary. Poor men had it worse, they were just out of luck in general unless disabled. Food stamps could be gleaned based on income, but they took into account car value as your income, even if you were making payments on the car.

The US was too broke to afford Obamacare and it has major issues that are now breaking the middle class into poverty right along with them, but what is true is that some people who couldn't ever afford health insurance can have it now.

No one is forced to use Medicaid. - sm

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Signing up for Medicaid will allow the "poor schlubbs" to avoid having to pay a penalty on their income taxes, but signing up for Medicaid does not take away their right to go to any doctor they choose and pay that doctor whatever amount they are free to negotiate to receive medical care.

I am a veteran on Tricare, and I can choose to use it or not use it. When I want to go to the doctor I have had for decades who doesn't take Tricare, I whip out my wallet and pay him cash. I don't blame the government that my doctor won't take Tricare, I blame my doctor, although clearly I still love him and give him my cash money when I walk into his office to avail myself of his services. LOL.

This is still America where we can make our own choices. Whoever has convinced people that they can't go to any doctor of their choice if they can manage to afford that doctor through either savings or negotiating with their doctor for reduced rates has done a great disservice to them. Most doctors in America will still take all the cash you will give them, and Americans are still free to go to whatever doctor they choose regardless of the insurance they carry. If they can't afford a doctor, then they may avail themselves of Medicaid. If they somehow can afford a doctor on their poverty wages, they aren't forced to use Medicaid if they choose not to use it, just like people are not forced to use Medicare just because they're old enough. Americans are free to obtain insurance through whatever means they have, rich ones and poor ones, regardless of age or income.

God bless America where we still have free-market healthcare and doctors who take insurance as well as cash, and just ignore the lying liar politicians who tell you otherwise.

I would be interested to know why you classify them....sm - Alice

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as "poor schlubbs". How is it a loss all around?

BananaCare is a loss for everyone. - nm

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BananaCare? Really? If that is what YOU have, no wonder....sm - VTMT
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you are unhappy. Try ObamaCare instead, even RomneyCare would work for you!

Exacxtly what happened to me. Had insurance I liked, could afford. Obama outlawed it. - Forced into

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Medicaid. None of my docs were on the Medicaid list. None of the facilities I used previously were on the Medicaid list.

Could not afford Obamacare even with the subsidies, and it covered far less, had thousands more out of pocket expenses before it paid penny than my prior insurance.

Was forced to take Medicaid and it sucks big time...Animals get better care than what Medicaid patients get.

Thanks Obama - NOT!

Because Medicaid SUCKS and it does you no good (sm) - Poor 2

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good if you can't find a doctor who takes it.

And more and more, many of them are NOT. - Abby

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Health insurance and healthcare are 2 different animals. - nm
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I would not label Obama's welfare nation - ProMT

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as a win for America.

It's a loss we may never recover from. - Abby

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