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Hey Judge Adams: That was not "discipline," and that was not a "child."


Posted: Nov 3, 2011

I spanked my children.  I never let my husband, mother, sister, or even their teachers hit them.  When I say my "children," they were 6 years old or younger, I think.  It was 3 swats on the butt with MY HAND.  It was never what anyone could call a BEATING.  They did not even cry, and then started to make fun of me.  I realized they had grown, and I had not.  Soooo, to their dismay, I started a thing called "grounding," or extra chores.  The grounding really gets to kids 6 and up, especially if they are 16 YEARS OLD and have plans with their friends, skating, movies, etc.

I have never used absolutely fowl language to bring my kids into SUBMISSION.  I have never verbally terrorized them in a threatening manner (lectures, a few).   I can not stand the thought of my children, at any age, being afraid of me. 

Kids of all ages can suffer consequences from their negative actions and learn lessons the hard way.  There should always be consequences for kids - but none of any age should have to fear enduring what this 16 YEAR OLD did on a REGULAR BASIS. 

Many 16-year-olds have intimate relationships with the opposite sex (safely I hope).  Many 16-year-olds are working and earning wages in an adult world.  There was a time when a 16-year-old was already a mother and a wife.  Just saying, that was no "child," and that was no "spanking."  That was some sick, perverted, angry, violent, power trip from a hypocritic jerk who is seeking total SUBMISSION from others. 

I am not sure of the daughter's motive, if any, 7 years later, doesn't matter.  Anyone who does something like this (not to mention the position he is responsible for to society's children), should be named and shamed.

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I got the impression he is still harrassing her in some way - Happy MT Robin

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The one article I read didn't have a lot of details, but I got the impression that he is still being a horrible human being to his child. Even more interesting is the account of some of the things he has said about children involved in child custody cases and, essentially, how he has said the child doesn't matter. He doesn't sound like a good human being.

The daughter really wants him to get help. She posted a statement saying she wanted someone to come forward to try to help him, not just call him evil.

He'll end up losing his job, which he should, because no one like that needs to be a family court judge.

The part that really got me was when he said that that whole incident wasn't really as bad as it looked on the tape. Yeah. Right.

I did hear the mother refer to her as a "16-year-old grown woman." - ?????

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I think there was something wrong with both of them!! Okay, so she said he had an addiction problem and she did not. What was her problem then?

After hearing what the mother said to her..... - sm

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That statement, and I will not repeat it here, speaks volumes. There was something really weird going on with both the dad and the mom. That was her daughter!! She only hit her once, but the things she was saying to her were weird (sick?). Not to mention, she did not even try to stop what was going on. It was like she was enjoying it. It was not enough that they hit her with 1 belt. He went and got another one and said, "I didn't get mine in." It was not enough that he had just beaten her, then he wanted to get in her face and threaten her - like he was looking forward to the next time!! He is paid by our tax dollars to make decisions that affect SO many children? Creeps me out.

Did I not hear correctly that the child .... - alias

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also had cerebral palsy? or was I confusing that with a different incident? If she did, it is even worse! My mother beat me like this and it really angers me when I see it done to someone else!

Spanking vs Beating - Outraged

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I think you are correct in the same incident,the child has cerebral palsy. AND, there is a total difference between a spanking and a beating. What I don't get is, the child now is saying her father is not a bad person, he just needs help? Hello, girlie! He's an abuser and has pretty much admitted that he did what he thought was right.

Okay, pops, not that you're reading this, but in case other pops or moms are, beating with a belt over and over is a beating and is abuse, period.

I don't have children, and doubt I would hit them if I did, but the only scenario I can see spanking (open hand, hiney only, no fists or weapons), is if my 3-year-old ran out into the street without checking for traffic first. That would be the last time the kid would do that again.

Anybody striking their child in the manner in that video is leaving themsevles open to a very messed up kid.....

Why only young people? - MMead

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We often hear from those who fight to uphold this practice for those under the age of 18 (even to the blaming of the social maladies of the day on a supposed "lack" of it), but we rarely, if ever, find advocates for the return of corporal punishment to the general adult community, college campuses, inmate population, or military. Why is that?

Ask ten unyielding proponents of child/adolescent/teenage-only "spanking" about the "right" way to do it, and what would be abusive, indecent, or obscene, and you will get ten different answers.

These proponents should consider making their own video-recording of the "right way" to do it.

Visit Unlimited Justice or Parents and Teachers Against Violence in Education to learn more and add your voice.

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