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Whtie house says transferring Internet control is limited govt.

Posted: Sep 24, 2016

for trying to prevent the Commerce Department from transferring technical oversight of the Internet to an international body.;

You just can't make this stuff up! This should be posted on the comedy forum! - Limited government? What about

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the takeover of healthcare, but they want small government?

Actually it is world government, the would be the exact opposite of limited government.

I believe the goal is to limit our ability to organize and resist, - as well as to monitor the flow of information.

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Look how it's made the MSM irrelevant. They no longer have a monopoly on the news.

Sites like Drudge Report and others will be deemed "hate speech" - by the UN. Bank on it.

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Read up on ICANN.

Guess I better brush up on my ham radio skills.

We are heading toward real-name registration for Internet use, just - like they have in China, Russia and

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and South Korea.

Bingo. Less people will use the Internet if they can't remain anonymous.

John Bolton predicted that the impending transfer of Internet - domain control from American supervision

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to an international body will mean the end of the Internet “as we know it."

Bolton called the Internet handover “a mistake of such colossal proportions that you would have thought we’d have a huge debate about it in this country.”

Well, let's see, then. - By that logic...

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1. Disbanding Congress would be "limited government"...turn legislative power over to the UN.

2. Vacating the Supreme Court would be "limited government"...turn judicial power over to the World Court.

3. Eliminating the FDA and Centers for Disease Control would be "limited government"...turn health matters over to the World Health Organization.

...not hard to see where this kind of stinkin' thinkin' might go, is it?

You might think these to be "extreme", but consider what you would have thought to be an "extreme" abrogation of American leadership just 8 years ago...and what has actually happened.

WE ARE ALREADY ON THIS SLIPPERY SLOPE, FOLKS. It's just a question now of how many of us will remain asleep all the way down until we crash at the rocky bottom of the pit.

Again and again I wonder...where are the people who should - be marching in the streets?

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If you can't see a method to Obama's madness, you aren't looking.

We are like the decent German citizens who stood by and watched while another despot (one who was also democratically elected, by the way) methodically implemented his insane world view and did nothing to stop him.

I think we were absolutely right to judge the German population to be complicit with Hitler in the awful consequences that followed.

Who will judge us?

...and, once again, where is Congress? - sm

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The system of checks-and-balances was intended to assure that no single branch of government could go rogue, as Obama has done. The legitimate line of defense against a power-mad President is Congress, even more so than the Supreme Court.

Mention is made of Germany. Here, too, there is a parallel with Germany's legislative branch, which failed when it had several opportunities to reign Hitler in.

Congress fights with each other every day. - Truthhurts

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If the Republicans bring up a bill, it's blocked by the Dems. If the Dems bring up a bill, it's blocked by Republicans. It's a partisan Congress all the way. I did see a couple miracles where they worked together in the past couples years, but bipartisanship voting is few and far between.

What's sad about all of this is that it was never like this in the past. They used to work together for the good of the people and the country. No more. Most of it I blame on Dirty Harry and Nancy Pelosi. Those two, combined with the Black Caucus have practically destroyed Congress and the work they should be doing.

When you stand up before the Congress and do nothing but spew hate for a business or people and holds closed door sessions with the party to try to stop legislation that doesn't agree with the progressive party, there's a monster of a problem.

Hopefully, once Dirty Harry is gone, maybe some sanity will return, at least to the Senate. As for the House, I get a kick out of the Dem leaders and how they call the other side their friend, then turn around and degrade them.

I can only hope things will change, but it depends on who wins the election in both the House and the Senate. We went too far downhill with majority Democrat control although both sides need to use their heads and not their backside. I believe an open letter to Congress on what the people see when in session is needed. Do ya think they'll listen? LOL

Internet - Oh, me!

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As I understand it, the control being transferred is only the assignment of domains, not control the entire Internet. The organization that assigns Internet domains has no control over what is carried on the Internet - that's up to individual governments or individual platforms, etc. Do a little research and you'll see exactly what is being transferred - it's out there. You don't have to listen only to people who don't really understand how the ICAN works. It's pretty amazing - and irresponsible, I think - that Congressional leadership would hold the budget bill hostage to what seems like a pretty minor decision.

I'll agree with you, though, about the Germans democratically electing a despot - just as the U.S. is in severe danger of doing the same - it's Mr Trump who has a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside, not Ms. Clinton.

The UN will value control of the web as the platform they need to - impose a tax as well as control

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free speech.

Internet - Oh, me!

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Where do you get this stuff? As far as I know the UN has nothing whatsoever to do with Internet governance. And how in the world - even if it did - would it impose a tax as well as control free speech? It probably wishes it could impose a tax so governments that have delinquent dues - including the US at one time - would have to pay up. I think you don't understand how the UN works and what limited power it has. If you have any facts to back up what you have baldly asserted here, I'd sure like to hear them.

None of this will happen on BO"s watch. He'll leave the mess for the next president. - Congress has virtually made itself

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useless, as it votes party first not as our representatives. Same with the Senate.

I predict a dark web in more ways than one.

That's ObamaSpeak - say one thing but mean the other. - Everything is 180 degrees out of

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phase.

If Obama transfer control, foreign governments will - censor it. It's becoming difficult to tell

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who is more retarded. Obonzo or Clintoon.

Internet - Oh, me!

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Once again, it is NOT control of the entire Internet that is being transferred - it is just the US participation in the assignment of domain names. Foreign governments already can, and do, censor their citizens' participation. Foreign governments cannot censor participation by people inside the US. I don't think foreign governments even WANT to censor us. My guess is that they would rather leave things as they are here so they can hack us at will.

The WH does not like the freedom the Internet provides in - terms of free speech.

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Just like net neutrality. It's anything but neutral. Everything BO does is Orwellian. BO tried to use the FCC to censor what the media said about him too.

The whole Obama era is so reminiscent of Soviet style corruption and propaganda. You KNOW when he calls a bill by one name, that it actually will result in another thing. "Affordable Care Act"...Hardly. "Net Neutrality Act"...Run the other freakin' way!

Internet - Are you kidding me?

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Are you truly kidding me? Obama - and the US government have little, if nothing, to do with net neutrality - the inventors of the Internet are the ones that have this as a goal. Read up, why don't you? The fact you are currently alive or not in jail is proof that the US is NOT like Soviet style corruption and propaganda because if you had made the statement you made above in Russia, they would be on their way to question you as a minimum. And your idea of "Soviet style corruption and propaganda" is what Obama calls a bill? Really?

By the way, the Affordable Care Act was close to being affordable as President Obama originally proposed it - until insurance companies and Congress got in the process, employers started taking people off of full time so they didn't have to pay the premiums or made employees pay a larger share because they didn't want to pay the whole premium. I couldn't afford it either if I had to have insurance BUT I think at least 4 great things happened in spite of all its difficulties:
Insurance companies have to pay out at least 80% of premiums collected for policyholder benefits. If they don't, they have to make premium refunds for any annual payout less than 80%. Hopefully, this alone will reduce or eliminate insurance companies dragging their feet about payment.

Children can stay on their parents' policies until they are 26.

No more preexisting condition exclusions.

Pregnancy coverage is required to be offered.

If you want to blame somebody, blame the insurance companies for taking advantage of everybody's being required to have insurance. I know for sure after many years of helping other people battle to get insurance payments they clearly deserve - absolutely no question of making a bad claim - that most insurance companies care very little about what they do to their policyholders' lives when they refuse to pay legitimate claims in a timely manner, and I'm pretty sure their executives care very little about most of their stockholders. I am equally sure they do care about a few stockholders - themselves. You can be pretty sure most insurance company executives hold gobs of their own companies' stocks, and THOSE are the stockholders they care about when they say they have to raise prices in the interests of their stockholders. I've dealt with insurance companies on behalf of myself and other people for 30+ years, and I believe - not all of them thank goodness, but the majority - they represent, after the banking industry, the most bad-faith operators in our society.

Who do you think pays for healthcare anyway? - While all interactions are between a

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doctor and a patient, there are 4 large entities controlling the system. The patient and the doctor are only pawns in the game. For over half a century, the biggest entity, the Federal Government, has made reform after reform in the name of improvement only to make things go from bad to worse. The ACA (Affordable Care Act) was no different and was more harmful to the practice of medicine than any prior piece of legislation.

The other 3 players in the healthcare game are the insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital industries. Through their lobbying groups, they always look out for themselves and stretch the rules they helped develop. When the ACA was being drafted, these industries made sure that they were sitting at the table maintaining the biggest chunk of the healthcare pie as possible. No one with a shred of economic knowledge could have seriously predicted that the ACA was economically feasible. These groups didn’t care and each made the best deal possible for themselves. The one issue they always seem forget to consider is where is the money comes from in the first place. No matter if we talk about private or public insurance, the truth is always the same. It comes from the American people, i.e. the patient or tax payer.

Two articles in the last week of August displayed the egregious behavior and philosophy of the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries. I recommend you read them both. The first was written in Townhall Magazine by Hal Scherz, MD, “Insurance Companies Losing Money? Give Me A Break! “ Dr Scherz points out that while it is true that insurance companies are losing money in the exchanges, their overall profit has risen. As businesses do, they are shutting down or limiting the profit loss segment of their business. They are exiting the exchanges in droves leaving many patients with zero or one unaffordable option for coverage. When negotiating with the creators of the ACA, they must have known this segment of their business would lose money, correct? Who didn’t realize that the healthier, younger people would just pay a penalty and not the high premiums of an inferior insurance product they didn’t need nor want? So why did the insurance industry embrace the ACA? Because they were promised a taxpayer bail-out for money lost. However, Congress stepped in and took away this tax payer slush-fund.

The second was an editorial by Holman W. Jenkins, Jr in the Business World Section of the Wall Street Journal, “Dear EpiPen Customers.…” He wrote a parody as if it were a letter to patients coming from the C.E.O. of Mylan Pharmaceuticals, Heather Bresch. Milan is the company coming under scrutiny recently for raising the price of the EpiPen 500% since 2007. (In their defense, the article could have been written about every other pharmaceutical company as they are all guilty of the same game.) The editorial was written in jest and I am sure Ms. Bresch would never utter those exact words (at least not outside of a stockholder meeting). In summary, he/she explains that they raised the price because they can. They played within the confines of the game Congress allows, enhanced by the ACA, for profit. After all, he/she writes that they are only raising prices the insurance companies pay. It is not as if patients are responsible for higher premiums, co-pays, and deductibles in the game of profit that Ms. Bresch has played to perfection. The editorial ends in jest on how to fix the healthcare problem. All patients have to do is elect better politicians who will reject the most powerful lobbying groups, despite the fact that these groups pay to get them elected. No problem.

Half of my practice involves taking care of patients with MS (multiple sclerosis). When the first medications came out to treat MS, they cost about $14,000 per year. While a hefty price back then in the 1990’s, the very same products now cost over $60,000. That is over 4 times the original price with no new research, development, or change in the products. Ironically, the cost of the newer MS medications are roughly the same. To put this in perspective, that would be the equivalent of people currently paying $2,400 for an original iPad model made in 2010. No one in their right mind who had a choice would do such a thing when new iPads cost a fraction of this price for a far better product. Understand now why young, healthy millennials are not buying ACA insurance products?

While not the focus of this article, we can’t let the fourth entity’s greed off the hook. The hospital industry failed to realize when embracing the ACA how unaffordable new private and public insurance products would be, leaving patients with higher deductibles, premiums, and co-pays. The hospitals jumped on the ACA bandwagon with the promise that all of their customers would be insured. Real people, the patients, now have costs they can not afford and never intend to pay. This has left hospitals holding an empty bag.

Patient’s limited financial resources have been pushed beyond the tipping point by the ACA and collapse appears around the corner. The answer you will hear will be the same, more legislation, this time in the form of the public option. The public option gives the government total control of everything. The only recourse for the hospital, insurance, and pharmaceutical industries will be lobbying for their piece of the socialized medicine pie. Sound familiar?

And if we don't pay insurance that covers things like pregnancy - even though I'm 60, I will be penalized

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in the form of a tax. The IRS is sending out letters this year.

Great freedom we have in this country now, right?

And if we dont pay for ... - Oh, me!

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And what happens if we don't have to pay for coverage for any health needs you might have now or in the future but we don't have - like a heart or kidney transplant, complications from diabetes, cancer treatment - things that might happen later in life but before you reach Medicare eligibility age and all of which likely cost more than the cost of a pregnancy? We're all in this together - paying coverage for things we may never need so we can keep the cost down for others who need the coverage.

Did you even read the article posted above by an - actual doctor? The cost would

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go down if the govt got out of medicine, plus docs would have more time to spend with patients.

Just wait until more illegals start getting these benefits. They already - do in some states. I know because

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I've done those reports.

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