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Vote on healthcare bill is being delayed


Posted: Jun 27, 2017

Republicans could not get enough support from their own party.  McConnell knew they would lose the vote.  Wants to change the bill, get a new CBO assessment, and vote after July 4th.  CHANGE THE BILL?  This should be interesting.  After 8 long years, they still have no idea what is best for healthcare for Americans.  Repeal, replace is all we have heard and still nothing.  The tax reform, infrastructure, everything is currently riding on what happens with this bill.  Some Republicans say they just cannot support it in its current form.  Yay guys!!!  Others say the bill is being pushed through too fast and want more time. 

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I am a Trump supporter and I want - the bill to be delayed and fixed.

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No reason to push it through now.

Me too. I want it repealed but I don't think many Republicans - actually want that. Truth is obamacare is

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AKA “we might have to give granny a pill” is virtually single payer Medicaid.

America as it was founded is dead. Government run housing, schools, and Social Security, has gone so well the next obvious step is to task them with your healthcare. What is the step after that?

The real Obama legacy is not Obamacare, its nearly every policy during the Obama years was anti-growth, much of it BECAUSE of Obamacare.

Obamacare AKA If you like your doctor you can keep - your doctor, AKA you will save $2500

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a year. “Cut the cost of a typical family’s health insurance premium by up to $2,500 a year”, said Obama.

Source: Speech, “A Politics of Conscience,” June 23, 2007

Instead, premiums went up. Understand, the people getting subsidies DON'T CARE.

You see, what you all want is the - 50s or 60s back

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but that will not happen. That phase of the economy and growth is over. The 1% took as much as they could out of that period---and shared while they were there (i.e. it was profitable to employ us). Now there is not enough to develop and they no longer want to share (they have found other labor markets to take advantage of)---so we are left with taking it back. This goes against the fine American principles/brain-washing that we were raised with, therein the rub.
No, we want out affordable health insurance back like it was before - Obamacare. Do you even care about those of us
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who are paying more for health insurance than our mortgage? Apparently not.
Do you mean back when insurance companies could...sm - oldtimer
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put a $1 million lifetime cap on your insurance benefits, refuse coverage for preexisting conditions, and skyrocketing bankruptcies because of medical bills, those days?
NO, they don't care. They don't understand how the free market works. - I heard it explained this way. Look at LASIK.
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It used to be $3000 and only accepted cash, no govt programs. Unlike other medicine, they have actually reduced their price to attack customers.

With social programs, like those starting in the 60s the cost simply goes up and up because, #1, they can charge as much as they want because they know the govt will pay, and #2, the person not paying doesn't care.
I'd like to see it go back to when it was REAL insurance, - for hospitalization and things with a high cost.
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Once they started paying for doctor's visits and the like the like, it no longer is insurance.
Yes, that's why I didn't believe those CBO numbers. They should be concerned about - how many people can AFFORDABLY
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buy health plans.

Obamacare forced people to buy expensive, comprehensive medical policies that millions of Americans didnt need or could afford. Republicans should ignore the obsession with "coverage" stats and focus on boosting access to affordable health insurance. But the media is out there screaming Republicans want to kill people and tax cuts for the rich, the usual stuff.
Real Repeat or #FakeRepeal? Thankfully, the GOP Senate - BCRA vote is delayed. Last week,
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we were in Washington, D.C. asking members and staffers in 20 offices, including the offices of Speaker Paul Ryan and Iowa Rep. Steve King (see photo), to do a REAL REPEAL.

We said Republicans will lose if they fail to vote on a full repeal bill. Even if the vote is unsuccessful, it would provide a protective backstop to anything else they tried to do. At least they’d have kept their word.

But one staffer asked, “Why do you want another vote?” He claimed they’d taken so many repeal votes that everyone knew how members would vote. We said a repeal vote under Obama would be nothing like a repeal vote under Trump. We also told him that they have no idea, despite the “whip count,” how Members will vote if forced to vote. He begrudgingly conceded our points.

We had several additional requests. Here are five:
Disable Obamacare. If they wouldn’t or couldn’t repeal Obamacare, leave it an empty shell, on the ground, gasping for air. Do not give it life by maintaining its funding (e.g. premium and cost-sharing reduction subsidies, exchange funding, insurer bailouts, taxes)
Enable opt-out. Repeal the Obamacare prohibition of affordable indemnity coverage for catastrophic (insurable) conditions. Give 6 million penalty-paying Americans and 20 million exemption-claiming American an option for affordable true insurance.
End ‘pre-existing condition’ problem. First, instead of establishing a new government program for the individual market (‘reinsurance’), encourage pre-Obamacare state high-risk pools for people with pre-existing conditions. Then advance ownership by providing tax equity (same deductible for individuals who buy their own policies as employers receive today) and encouraging pre-birth insurance (individual policy purchased for children pre-birth and transferred to them at maturity).
Stop saying “pre-existing conditions.” Use “uninsurable conditions.” Change how Americans think about guaranteed issue (GI) of coverage or the drive to “cover everyone” through GI will lead to socialized medicine.
Make it real to working Americans. Do not use the term “redistribution of wealth.” Say “redistribution of wages.” Most people have wages they don’t want ‘redistributed’ to others. Few consider themselves wealthy.
Tellingly, the word ‘repeal’ has faded away. Voices simply discuss the ‘health care’ bill. Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber happily claims the Senate bill is not repeal. He calls it “Obamacare 0.5.” A 10-point Texas Policy Institute one-pager shows why. For example, the individual mandate is NOT repealed. Only the penalty is zeroed out.

Thus, the battle that resumes after July 4th is over #FakeRepeal. That said, given the strong opposition conservative Members, it’s possible that a full repeal amendment could be offered to actually force a vote on full and real repeal. Use this delay to ask for REAL REPEAL. (Call state office or Capitol Switchboard: #202-224-3121)

Thank you to those who supported this week on Capitol Hill in D.C. Members and staffers took many notes and thanked us for bringing them fresh ideas. Thanks for being on our team!

Advancing #RealRepeal of Obamacare.

From Citizen's Counsel for Health Freedom.
No, we want out affordable health insurance back like it was before - Obamacare.
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The next time you hear some leftist on TV screeching - tax cuts for the rich, remember that

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Obamacare imposed many taxes on the middle class, including taxes on HFA, raising medical deductions on your tax. You used to be able to start deducted your medical expenses at 7.5 of what you paid, Obamacare raised it to 10.5, taxing medical devices, tanning beds, etc. Not to mention Democrat senators getting state perks.

Excellent rebuttal. I know the task of making the case for - small govt is never ending, but

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some of us will keep doing what we can. It's important.

Same here - anon

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I continue to be a Trump supporter, but agree the bill shouldn't go through. It's well past time for both parties to work together and come up with something that benefits the citizens they're supposed to be working for.

I read earlier - today that

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McConnell said that if the bill fails they would have to work with Democrats - like he would be taking a bath with a leper or something! Aren't they supposed to all work together? Maybe it should fail so that they will have to. I am sure they can find some kind of common ground if they work together. It's not like both sides don't have valid points and ideas that would be good for all Americans. They should at least try and stop all of this ugliness!

McConnell is essentially a Democrat. Many republicans are beholding - to big donors, just like Democrats.

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They don't care about us, either party. They care about their donors. They don't like Trump either.

Think of gvt as a business. You think they are there to represent us, but they are there to get reelected.

So now McConnell - is a demoncrat?

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I doubt it with his drooling over being able to give the fat cats that big juicy tax cut - that is a republican flaw! What about Ryan? Is he a democrat too? Give me a break - the only one who really is not a republican is Trump!
What else would you call a RINO? What fat cat - tax cut? Obamacare taxes the middle class
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by taxing HFAs and raising the amount you have to reach on your taxes before you can deduct medical expenses. Obamacare had many, many hidden taxes that affect the middle class.

CBO assessment is bogus. Many of those 22 million will chose - NOT to buy insurance, as we were forced to

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before. Many of us will drop what we were forced to buy to get all the money they need to redistribute.

Of course the response is predictable. CBO has a history of being inaccurate. Look at these headlines:

Obama Amnesty Would Save Feds $7.5 billion.”

Seriously? What a crock.

This bill is Obamacare lite. I voted to repeal, not to replace. - Simply put, the Federal government

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has no power granted them by the Constitution to be involved in health care.

Imagine the United States broke up and became like Germany after WWII. Which side prospered? Western Germany with free market values. Look at North and South Korea after the Korean War.

Illinois has been run by Democrats for years. It has become America's Venezuela and is bankrupt. All money collected goes to pay pensions. This is our future, America.

Wise up. I trust Washington D.C. (AKA The Swamp, both parties) as much as I trust the CNN. If they want socialized medicine, then we should have an opt out clause.

This is how you fix health care in the U.S. - WAKE UP PEOPLE. sm

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You simply repeal congressional healthcare benefits. PERIOD. They should be made to use the same health care/insurance plan that they come up with for us. There. Problem solved.

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