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Posted: Jun 4, 2017

The conservative sphere has no standards for decency and behavior, and it rewards figures like Nugent for making threats of physical harm against people like Obama and Clinton. http://oliverwillis.com/2017/05/31/kathy-griffin-controversy-exposes-how-debased-the-right-is/;

Amen - Matthew 5:7

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Your hateful rhetoric is affecting all our kids. I have three of my own. The oldest is almost ten. What about them? My kids worry that they will be attacked for being Jewish. I never mentioned it or talked about it at home; they picked it up from other kids with the same worry at their school. Is that what kids should be talking about at school? But I have it easy. We are white and middle class.

What about the children who get harassed and attacked as the result of your anti-Muslim rhetoric and policies? The Latino kids who get called rapists. The Muslim kids who are called terrorists. The black kids who watch their parent’s murders played millions of times on TV. What does it say to the children in this country that it took you over a year to denounce all the violence that you helped spawn?

What type of neighborhood do you live in - I live in a decent area and no ethnicity attacks

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The neighborhood I live in is mixed, Spanish, Middle Eastern and to a lesser degree Asian and black. No such conduct that is mentioned in previous post.

This is dramatic garbage, perfectly suited for a liberal Sunday morning and more than likely generated from MSM or an over active imagination of someone who lives in what-if land.

Has not this subject been hashed out before - Slow news day lefties.

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Nothing to do but redo what has been done. Need a talking point? How about the terrorist attacks and the travel ban. That would be relevant.

For now lefties with subjects like this seem desperate. And I know why! No candidate, Hillary on blame-game tour looking foolish, and no plan to win back voters.

Death threats against Trump, the violence of Antifa, corruption of the DNC - anon

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Murder trail left by the Clinton's. Really pull your head out and understand the immorality, insanity and depravity of the left, of which we see examples daily.

The left is too focused on destroying Trump to - see what the Demoncrats have done.

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Which is so funny because you can't fix what is broke (the Demoncratic party) until you recognize what needs to be fixed. Instead you got weary Hillary doing nothing to help with her pitiful me excuses. Somebody needs to get a hook and pull her off stage which would be the first step to fix the party because she is a constant reminder of the corruption in the party.

News flash - Death threats against a president - corruption of government

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is not a new topic. Immorality and insanity is also not new in this country. The only new thing is Trump supporters think this has just started happening and it's only against Trump.

It is the VOLUME against Trump. - All cons and no pros.

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Trump upset the corrupt political system which big business is part of including the media. They are mad as he!! and give misinformation, half stories and out of context news regarding the president.

I have never seen this excess happen to another president as far back as I can remember.

I used to watch Morning Joe on MSNBC but can't stomach it anymore because it has turned in to a bitchfest against Trump. Nothing good to say about him and they stack the deck against him with liberal hacks commenting to back up the contempt of Joe and Mika.

These people want Trump out so they can continue business as usual with votes bought with contributions (bribes) in favor of special interests. The middle class is dwindling thanks to this corruption.

And you've just stated exactly what is wrong witth this country - anon

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I am glad others can see it.

Obviously the left cannot see it by the - dislikes on reasonable posts

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They hide behind their anonymity and hit the dislike function without any reason why they are disliking the argument made.

This provides me with insight into liberals mindset. They dislike for no reason whatsoever, just because, and that proves to me lefties have no logic or reason - just all consuming HATE for Trump. That hatred will kill the haters, not the hated.

When you spot a reasonable right-wing post - Please flag it

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I would like to see what you consider reasonable.

No changes in threats to president reported by Secret Service - sm

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WASHINGTON – Despite a spate of White House security breaches and other attention-grabbing stunts, there has been no change in the number of threats to directed at President Trump during his first five months in office as compared to his predecessor Barack Obama, according to the Secret Service.

On average, agents have been pursuing six to eight threat reports each day, the new Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex" Alles told reporters Thursday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/01/secret-service-trump-faces-same-number-threats-obama/102400210/

It is clearly not the THREATS, it is the - general attitude toward Trump and reporting

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That was CLEARLY stated in the post you are addressing.

Those garbage fumes can stunt your intellectual ability.

It seems that the conservatives are so sensitive - to reasonable discourse

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So delicate, it seems like they would melt like a snowflake with the slightest breeze.

Conservatives are bored with liberals - who need remedial reading course

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There is nothing more maddening than a liberal who dodges the point and comes up with a totally unrelated answer.

It is a reflection on liberals diverting the subject matter at hand. Either they are stupid or just can't deal with the subject.

It is more like conservatives only have a few - responses to valid points

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regarding Trump's actions. It's either Hillary did it, it's Obama's fault or lefties have no lives and just dig up dirt. I'd still like to know what has Trump done that is so great? What was so great about selling arms to Saudi who produced most of the terrorists from 911? Why is what Griffin did considered a death threat, yet Ted Nugent's comments weren't considered a death threat? How is he draining the swamp when he has the biggest swamp dwellers in his cabinet? Of course his cabinet is a revolving door so it's hard to keep up with them. Why was backing out of the Paris Agreement so great? There are many more questions but you folks won't answer them anyway except to tell me it's Hillary's or Obama's fault so why bother.

Please assure that your own intellectual ability is not stunted. - Try some fact checking. sm

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You need to look beyond lefties or conservatives and your continuous and tireless insults of a group of people as if they were one. You need to look beyond left or right leaning publications to learn FACTS and why there is such VOLUME of people who see Trump in a negative light. Stop looking up dirt on people who are not in office any longer. FACT check who is in office, current cabinet and Congress. And while you are at it, investigate FACTS on every piece of legislation Trump has brought forth, what his campaign promises were, what he has actually accomplished, what he has flip-flopped on, results of meetings he has had with leaders, figures he quotes, policies he quotes on just about anything, and his basic lack of intellectual ability to run the United States. Most of his comments give a perception of reality that does not exist or is a plain lie. And then again, he does not hesitate to repeat false information provided to him as fact when he really has no idea. He should do some fact checking himself if he is such a good president.

I am no Hillary fan myself or a "yellow dog" democrat, but I also know most of the fake news comes from Trump himself. If not, he causes deflections of facts with something new and outrageous. Check any web site that does fact checking. Any of them. The list is quite extensive, faaaarrr to extensive to list here. Save some of that time you spending insulting whole groups of people who do not share your ideas and use it to look up actual facts. I have no problem with republicans, some of them even have good ideas. I do not put ALL people of a party in an insulting category as you do. You, obvious by your posts, are the kind of people who divide this nation. I am not for party but for ALL Americans, and have done enough research to know it is going to take very many years for anyone, Republican or Democrat, to undo the damage that Trump is/will do to this country. Not opinion, but actual facts, you know, improve your intellectual ability.

Today is a perfect example of Trump's words hurting his own cause - sm

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Regarding Trump's travel ban, everyone in the WH have been trying to help him by saying, "it is NOT a ban....To classify this as a ban is wrong," whatever it takes to make it look better in court. Then Trump gets on Twitter and says "you can call it whatever you want BUT IT IS A TRAVEL BAN." Hard for others to back him up or help him. He hurts his own case. Not only are his statements on terrorist attacks unnecessary, most of them have been wrong. Talk about lack of intellectual ability.....!!!!

Maybe that volume is warranted, no? Can you - tell us the good he is doing going unreported?

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Cause and effect here.

Trump cannot seem to be presidential at all, he is not even trying. Let's face it, tweeting garbage is NOT presidential and never will be. But one thing is becoming clearer and clearer - we don't have to LET Trump be Trump, he is obviously incapable of NOT being Trump.

And despite how much the Trumpee fans loved him in his rallies (was it the odious bashing of Hillary, the element of danger as he suggested beating up reporters or those protesting?), the thought that he would pivot or grow into the role it is becoming clear will never happen.

I know this is inconceivable to Trump fans, they just see something else entirely, but to most of us this is a completely unqualified person, a completely disagreeable person, a person we wouldn't spend 5 minutes talking to (well, obviously he wouldn't deign to talk to us either), a person who is absolutely odious, obnoxious, who says things insulting to us and those we love and to our very being every time he speaks.

You all seem to think just because he is president we should change our minds and support him, despite his character. And I say why? He should NOT have been elected, he is not qualified and not even a decent person.

He has a huge confidence which is outsized to his ability, and his supporters blindly have that same confidence in him.

What, exactly, has he done that is good since he has been in office? Name one thing? And not Gorsuch, that was really the extremely right wing pushing that on him, he didn't have to do anything for that. Plus, to many of us Gorsuch is not so great and illegitimate anyway, thanks to the equally odious Mitch McConnell.

You have to understand too that when he constantly berated Obama for golfing and then spends far more time golfing than Obama ever did, that is news. It goes to character. In fact, everything goes to character in this president. He has a terrible character or if you like no character, and there is just no getting around that. He is a liar, a bully, needs constant praise and compliments, and lashes out petulantly at anyone who disagrees with him or makes him look like the silly man child he is.

To many of us, this man whom you have elected is a disgusting human being, not fit to serve this country, not interested in serving this country, only interested in serving himself and his bottom line. You say he is smashing the system and getting the special interests out? How can that possibly be when every single member of his cabinet represents special interests – usually big money opposing whatever job they were chosen for!

So please, what exactly do you see that he has done that the media should be reporting differently?

That's because there are no pros with - Trump.

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I don't know what to say but more and more are getting tired of Trump rhetoric. Many of his supporters are leaving him. That's just the way it is. He was not a good choice and you folks that voted for him made a mistake. Really don't know what else to say.

Oh I'm sorry, please post the pic of Nugent holding the chopped off head of Obama or Clinton - I'll wait

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Quite a difference. Ted Nugent made a bad decision in the "words" he said. Griffin made horrific "visualization" calling for ISIS to follow.

Yeah, gun owners were upset at O&C's attempts to make gun ownership illegal, except for them of course. That is the problem with elitist leftists...they think in their own sick minds that they are more knowledgeable than those who are not sick in the minds like them. How they even function with acts of daily living is amazing, because they have lost the ability of critical thinking.

In fact he even said (and I'll post the article below)- “My statements were in response to an outrageous attempt to ban certain types of firearms that would do nothing except help bad guys with more gun-free zones,” he added, “I was on stage at a rock’n’roll concert when Obama was a senator, not the president, and I made an outrageous metaphor telling him that we will not accept his gun control laws, but I never threatened anyone.”

Another difference...Ted Nugent took responsibility for the things he said, owned up to them. Griffin? No, it's everybody else's fault. It's white men's fault she did it, it's rich white men's fault. Her insanity started showing when she blames Trump for what she did. Seriously? You threaten the President's life, terrorize his family and his son (as you said in December you wanted to "deliver a beat down" to Barron (and Donald). Now you expect us to believe you care so much about children??? Seriously??? So, which is it Ms. C.

When this country is going through such horrific tragedies, such as the beheading of Daniel Pearl, Peter Kassig, James Foloey and others, there you stand like one of the ISIS members holding up a world leader's head calling on them to do just what you are showing them to do, is not just a "mistake". It was a calculated and satanic act. Thanks for showing the world how sadistic you really are and anyone who thinks along your way is also sadistic and follows satan.

You not only owe an apology to the Trump family, you owe an apology to all the family members who have had to live through this in real life. You need to explain to them why you just ridiculed what happened to them. You need to explain why you think what happened to their loved ones is so funny to you. I know your idea of comedy is to humiliate and mortify innocent people. Unfortunately you not only "stepped over the line" your words, you have committed a felony and your new color should be orange.

But now blaming President Trump for this incident? Tell you this...if you ever held up a severed head of my husband, father, brother, or friend, calling upon ISIS to do what you depicted. Yeah, you bet your bippy I would do everything in my will to ruin your life.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/02/kathy-griffin-dredges-up-ted-nugents-comments-about-obama-heres-his-response/

Some people are truly satanic. Scary they walk among us - nm

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