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Posted: Jul 13, 2011

http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/07/13/obama-caught-in-a-massive-lie/

 

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Thanks, great article - Something to think about

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This was what then senator obama said during a Republican Presidency......

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure,” he said. “It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

2012 - End of an Error

Did you miss the part where he said "arguing - with the insurance companies?"

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Meaning he clearly stated she had insurance but the company was trying to establish that the cancer was pre-existing (since it was in an advanced stage when dignosed at multiple sites) in relation to when she acquired coverage....something they are known to do all the time, especially back in those days. I have a question about Beck's buddy who wrote the book. Did he get Murdoch's script kiddies to hack into her medical records like he did when PM Brown's son was born with CF? Just curious.

As usual, Beck's got nothing, but you believe him anyway, huh?

Another Obama lover blinded by - sm

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the sunshine they think comes out of his butt. Amazing to me how many of you jump on any republican who misspeaks and yet you believe every thing Obama says even when it is proven to be lies. Wow...keep them blinders on. I'm sure they will make you feel all warm and fuzzy when our country tanks because this administration doesn't understand the meaning of cutting back and not spending money we don't have.

Obama blind - rules

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Here are the rules:

Republican or conservative messes up: It's a major character flaw and/or they are too stupid to be in office.

Democrat messes up: No big deal. They just misspoke. What they REALLY meant to say was (insert correction here).

Fortunately for America, I can see another shellacking in November 2012.

My, my. Aren't we the touchy one this morning? - sm

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Anyone with an eye for truth and a love of logic can see right through this pathetic attempt by Beck (speaking of pathological liars) to mobilize yet another smear campaign against the president. Naturally, the claim falls apart, even if scrutinized by an 8th grader.

Obama has been playing the tpot-pandering GOP and the media for the past few weeks on the debt ceiling drama by letting them dig their own holes with their mouths and then standing quietly by while the media has its field days. He stood up to them, pulled te rug out from uner them and voila, got the upper hand. He also raised $86 million 16 months before the election.

This might help explain their silence on the forum this past week, the emergence of mud-slingig posts, Beck's comical over-reach and your over-reaction when his own words shoots holes in his story and someone points it out.
So you are saying that Obama - sm
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didn't misspeak about any of those things Beck brought up? What a load of crap! We all know he said his uncle went into Aushwitz...which we all know is a lie. So where are these holes you are talking about? It seems to me that Mr. Obama left out part of the story to benefit his needs and has been called out on it and you continue to ignore it. Yet if a pub tried that....oh boy you would be all over that. Ridiculous.
I'd rather eat glass than to listen to a 10 minute - clip of Beck's babble
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You may notice my posts were confined to the commentary that appears below the video regarding Beck's bogus accusations that Obama lied about his mother's fighting with the insurance company over coverage when she was receivig treatment for terminal cancer. If you read that, then read my original post you will see the holes I am referring to have already been addressed and clearly explained, unless of course you forget to take your blinders off first.

Charles Payne, age 84, is Obama's great uncle and was a member of the infantry that liberated the Ohrdruf concentration camp, a division of Buchenwald. Obama misspoke to the extent that he named Auschwitz instead of Ohrdruf/Buchenwald, a mistake which he corrected the next day. Misspeak, yes. Deliberate lie "we" all know? Hardly. Where are the holes? Like I said, pouring out of Beck's mouth every time he opens it AND in your characterization of the Memorial Day speech reference to a REAL uncle with REAL service to the country who REALLY did participate in liberating a concentration camp as a lie.

Beck has been exiled to the far corners of the internet by Fox. A person cannot achieve more discredit than to be discredited by the discredited. Get a clue.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-07-24-1654309354_x.htm
failure of obama - touchy
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Not the poster you are referring, but personally, I would prefer my president being a LEADER and working to UNITE the people and FIX the huge problems we have in this country right now instead of running around the country asking for money for his campaign.
I don't want my president "playing" anyone in this crisis. That has to be a frightening scenario to any level-headed person. He is such a failure and an embarrassment to this nation.

Since when did the future of America become a game? Is that what it's all about to you-Dem vs Rep and who has raised the most money so far and who has the upper hand while the country is going down the drain? Seriously?

Who has felt the need to been silenced on this forum because of Obama's awesomeness? That's pretty funny.
Ummm, the DNC and small donors are the ones - who managed to double
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the coffers last quarter, not Obama running around the country asking for money. Care to give a few examples of this fiction you are trying to invent? When did he make his last speech asking for money? What cities and states did he run around in? How much did he get? Hint: Obama has organized groups doing this for him (and rather brilliantly, I might add, just like 2008), so he CAN focus on his job. Axelrod had a few things to say on this subject of these fundraisng groups:

The groups were formed “...in response to the ones that spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the last campaign to defeat Democratic candidates [with] undisclosed, large contributions. We tried to pass a law through the Congress that would force them to disclose — all groups to disclose — who was giving them money so the public could see. It got 59 Democratic votes in the United States Senate. Forty-one Republicans blocked it, so now of course there's a reaction to what happened because Democrats are saying, ‘We can’t play under two sets of rules.’” Translation: What's good for the goose is good for the gander, fight fire with fire, and all that good stuff.

Does that indignation over game playing extend to the GOP obstructionists in Congress who have been in overdrive since the minute the 111th and 112th sessions were called to order, or is that especially reserved for Obama? Perhaps you should ask them about when that first happened. Hint: The moment Obama took office would be an educated guess.

I addressed my comments to the OP's over-reaction to Beck's lie being busted wide open by his own words and lack of logic. I brought the Obama fundraising success up while speculating about what had that poster in such a foul mood. I also mentioned how Obama seized control of the debt ceiling debate by giving the GOP just enough rope to hang themselves. I forgot to add another possible explanation for the poster's reactionary response: The exposure of Murdoch's utterly despicable hacking practices that are now known to be global and inolve at least 5,000 victims, soon to reduce his media empire to smoking embers and piles of rubble.

This thread is not about the debt crisis or the country going down the drain. It is about lies Beck told and over-reacting to the exposure of those lies, a subject you are not-so-skillfully trying to avoid by launching a couple of personal slams in my direction. Oh, and by the way, ou are on a political forum, where one might reasonably expect to encounter dem-on-pub and pub-on-dem discourse. Seriously.

Starting in the middle of last week and ending late Monday and early Tuesday, new postings and replies slowed down to a crawl. I simply made an observation that the GOP and tpots probably had a bad week, which correlated to the good wee Obama was having, and did not feel much like posting.


http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/DavidAxelrod-BarackObama/2011/05/01/id/394711
What Obama’s Numbers Don’t Tell Us - PauletteRevereMT
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July 13, 2011, 2:23 pm

What Obama’s Numbers Don’t Tell Us





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There are two things we know for sure about the $47 million President Obama raised in the last three months for his re-election campaign: It’s a lot of money, and it’s far more than any of his potential Republican opponents have raised.


That figure — along with the $39 million the campaign reported raising for the Democratic National Committee –  was the subject of much enthusiasm from Jim Messina, the campaign manager, in a morning conference call with reporters. The call took place after the Obama campaign had released the numbers in a video to supporters.



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But there’s much that will not be clear until Mr. Obama delivers his formal paperwork to the Federal Election Commission before midnight on Friday.


* Mr. Messina said that 98 percent of the individual donations came in checks of $250 or less, a figure he said “should end any Washington chatter about whether our grass-roots base will be engaged.” But the campaign will not announce until Friday what actual proportion of Mr. Obama’s $47 million haul came from such checks, during a period when the president attended a significant number of fund-raisers for wealthy donors who typically give thousands of dollars, along with small-donor events. The campaign also made a point of referring to the donations and not the donors, and did not give the total number of donations from a single donor.


* Mr. Obama’s aides boasted of adding more than 260,000 new donors during the quarter, close to half of the overall 552,462 people who gave and more than the campaign had during all of 2007. But what of Mr. Obama’s vast database of donors to his first presidential campaign, numbering 3.95 million, according to the campaign? In other words, while roughly a quarter-million new donors signed on to Mr. Obama’s re-election, the vast majority of those who supported Mr. Obama in 2008 haven’t yet sent the president a dime.


* Moreover, Mr. Obama, who faces no challenge from within his own party, is raising money for both the primary period and the general election; money raised for the election cannot be spent until after he is formally renominated next summer. And while Mr. Obama is unlikely to face a primary challenge, the campaign will need that money to build a ground operation and to respond to attacks from rivals and independent Republican groups. His closest competitor in terms of dollars, Mitt Romney, raised only $18.25 million in the quarter, but all of it is primary money. And while even half of Mr. Obama’s $47 million would be more than Mr. Romney has raised, it’s difficult to make an apples-to-apples comparison until the campaigns file with the F.E.C. later this week.


* No Republican candidate has committed to releasing the names of so-called bundlers, wealthy supporters who raise money on their behalf. Mr. Obama has pledged to do so, but not until Friday — leaving uncertain, for now, the extent to which his formidable fund-raising operation from 2008 remains intact for 2012.





Considering we are 16 months out from the election - these caveats
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and the conclusions they are straining to draw pretty much amount to non-sequiters. First of all, the papers will be submitted to the FEC on Friday, so nothing can be definite until then. The first asterisked paragraph omits the $69 average donation amount. A mathematical average by definition accounts for all donors large and small. If the average amount is $69, the implication would be that there are many, many, many more donors making smaller contributions and many fewer making larger contributions in order to arrive at such a low average amount.

Secondly, the next paragraph fails to take into account the $39 million already contributed prior to the second quarter of 2011, so to conclude that the vast majority of those who supported Obama in 2008 haven’t yet sent the president a dime is completely faulty, especially in view of the fuzzy math: 552,462 - 260,000 = 292,462 donors who were not new, plus the donors who have already contributed, some of whom at least are repeat donors. It would be reasonable to assume that previous donors will be contributing more between now and Nov 2012, and it is very likely the pace of contributions from them will pick up speed once the GOP primary selection process is behind us. It is still quite early, which makes the amounts already collected truly remarkable and historically significant.


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