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Posted: Aug 29, 2012

So, Ryan is up there whining about the GM plant that closed in his home town and how that's all Obama's fault. News flash: That plant closed in 2008 before Obama took office.

I think I counted about 12 lies during that speech. Awesome candidate.

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Ryan hit a home run! - Super-great speech.

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Not an empty promise in the bunch. That was amazingly patriotic and uplifting. Way to go, Ryan!

Ryan was GREAT! Loved his energy, - positivity AND LOVE FOR AMERICA WITH NO APOLOGIES

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Nice to see someone that does not divide, tear down and pit one group against another. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE HIM.

Pfft. He's a still-wet-behind-the-ears little twit. - He should go back to Mickey-D"s.

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Hit a nerve, did he? - Jess

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He sure did! He made more working for Mickey - than we make as transcriptionists.

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You BET he hit a nerve.

You can apply at McD's anytime At least he - WORKED''''

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True. We don't get much of that anymore ("work") - as MTs. India is getting it all.

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I have plenty of work, OT weekly and do very well"" - but I don't spend 24/7 on this board

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Like some that just see how vile and rude their posts can be to someone they disagree with. Obviously, no way to know who you work for, but would look around.

Not 24/7, gotta get some sleep, but a heck of a lot - Be Real

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Maybe not 24/7, but waaaaay too often to be pulling overtime. If you think that makes your argument sound better, go for it I guess.

Right on! I do OT every day, but it's not paid. Somehow - "trickle-down" never made it down to the

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Corporate greed.

Not his fault...instead of complaining about MT wages, start - backwards typist

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writing letters to those in power, TV and radio stations, and anyone else that would get the word out.

It's a big country and people need to stick together to get things done. One person alone can't make a dent in that problem.

And if you're speaking about NAFTA, President Clinton expanded it further than GHWB and Obama and SOS Clinton expanded it even further this year.

Canadian MTs never really had that great an - impact on American MTs

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And, since most Canadians are English speaking, their work isn't garbage. Mexico never has been a destination (as far as I know) for outsourcing transcription work. It's India and other places overseas that botch the work and work for slave wages compared to US/Canadian wages.

See links. Attempt to do anything about offshoring didn't work out too well.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/politics/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/index.html

He sure must have Jess - They embraced a complete incompetent, no experienc

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community agitator that lied about being a law professor, and too many other things to list here, and no experience at all in anything substantial. Funniest part of all is, Ryan is only about 4 years younger than Barack Hussein was when Barack Hussein started his path of lies to get to the Magic Kingdom.

Oh my. That post reeks of ignorance - and/or racism NM

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And here's the board racist"" - rearing her ugly head AGAIN/STILL

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Take your racist beliefs and stuff them. Barack Hussein Obama completely incompetent.

Seems you're the racist since Obama's color is the FIRST THING you go to all the time. His color is all you see. You're to be pitied.

""Which part? Be specific. Please be sure (sm) - nm

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to tell us which part was racist. Obama is an inexperienced nothing. He could be any color, or all, mixed. It doesn't change the facts. He was only a community agitator. Face it, libs. That's what you elected. Rise to the Magic Kingdom, I like that. No experience necessary. Just have to fool half of the people all of the time.

He's a smart guy... - SK

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You may not agree with his politics, but intellectually he can run circles around just about anyone in government right now. Don't be fooled by his youth.

He may be smart, but he's foolish if he - thinks that folks aren't

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going to fact check what he says. Maybe not the folks in that room last night, but the ones R/R need to convince to vote for them. Smart guy making some not-so-smart moves maybe.

Information must always be checked.... - SK

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The frustrating thing about "facts" and "numbers" is that they can so easily be massaged to fit what one wants to see. It actually takes a lot of time to find as facts from as independent a source as possible and look at them objectively.

I TRY to do that (although it's difficult to find those "independent, non-partisan" sources), and from what I've seen, Ryan's numbers make sense. He's definitely a numbers guy, which can be difficult for me to comprehend because I'm not, but what he says makes sense to me.

Someone just posted a link up above - sm

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It's getting to the point where the lies don't even need fact checking because they've already been fact checked.

I'm not a democrat, but there's no possible way that I can vote for R/R. However, if I was up in the air and undecided, I wouldn't appreciate being lied to. When someone lies to you, they assume you're gullible and doubt your intelligence.

Just one illustration.... - SK

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According to a local source (the Milwaukee Journal), the Janesville GM plant ceased production of SUVs in 2008, but the plant was not idled until 2009.

Quoting from the linked article... "Since they were shut down in 2009, both the Janesville and Tennessee plants have been on standby status, meaning they were not producing vehicles, but they were not completely shut down."

A good example of how both sides can claim "lie."

It's about how you look at the information.

Yep...he was very exciting...sm - JTBB

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and very eloquent while telling those lies. Wonder why he didn't talk about the fact that he voted for the auto bailout, 2 wars, and medicare D, all of which was not paid for.

"very eloquent while telling those lies" - "Again, Obama and DNC preview

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I think your record has a skip in it. - It keeps repeating.

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Your should be used to since you do it all the - time (and the Night Stalker attacks again)"&q

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? Que ? - No comprende.

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Not to be the party pooper here - Trigger Happy

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as I didn't get to watch his speech nor have I fact checked every little thing he said, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I'm pretty sure many politicians have not told the truth during there speeches. In fact, I'm pretty sure ALL politicians lie during speeches...including Obama. ;) It doesn't make it right but it always strikes me as ironic when we all complain about the other side doing the SAME thing our side does too.

True. That's 99.9% of the problem. Politicians ARE - all liars, & shouldnt be running the country.

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They're all about politics. The Game. The thrill of the hunt (for office). Once they catch their quarry (a seat anywhere in government, not just President), they haven't clue-one what to do with it once they've caught it.

Now, that's just armchair quarterbacking. - Jess

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Can any of us do better? Really?

Obama lies all the time, but doesnt always realize since - he is only reading what is in front of him.nm

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I disagree with that actually - Trigger Happy

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I do believe that Obama knows what lies he tells and why he tells them. He has his agenda and he has quite effectively talked out of both sides of his mouth and mesmerized those in the media and his followers into believing every falsehood he says.

My election plan.... - SK

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I have a huge plan for election reform that, personally (I say, brushing off my shoulders), I think is BRILLIANT.....

The American people should be able t collectively create a 100-question questionnaire pertaining to national concerns that each candidate has to fill out and present to the people during the campaign. And if they're elected, they have to ABIDE BY THEIR ANSWERS and FULFILL THE PROMISES THEY MAKE.

Brilliant, eh?

My plan hasn't progressed to what the American people would be able to do to them if they don't fulfill their promises.... That would be stage II of the plan.

I'll never happen, but a girl can fantasize.

Yeah, I tried to watch some of it, but all the BS he was - spewing was making my blood boil.

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Finally had to turn it off. What a power-hungry, hateful bunch of people.

Though I DID have to laugh a little when the camera panned around the audience. It was A Convention of Suits.

What a power-hungry, hateful bunch of people. - Early preview of DNC"""

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RNC: Of the Suits, By the Suits, & For the Suits. - Its all about the Suits and their big money.

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Yeah - guess this one needs glasses"" Sr. citizens, young college - people, middle aged and VERY FEW suits

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These comments just get funnier and funnier because they are so far off the mark and SOOOO biased. As if good ole Barry gives a damn about anyone other than himself.

Guess if it's all Hollywood money, foreign money, Wall Street money that Obama power grab goes for...that's okay.

Lens Crafter has a special on dear..you can get 2 pairs of glasses for $ 99.00, but you have to go through 563 new agencies,23 new taxes, 753 HHS and IRS employees and Obamacare, then wait 18 months to get them. Good luck Mr.Magoo....lolol

There were LOTS of Suits. And the creepiest ones - were the teenage Junior-Suits.

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How do you spell, "Heebie-Jeebies"?
Brrrrrr!

And you don't think the democrats - Good one

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are bought and paid for by unions and their special interests. LOL Wake up people! Both parties are corrupt and bought and paid by one group or another.

What unions? - mbmt

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All but destroyed by the Republicans.

Wow...you really love the guy - sm

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that much that you will came back with a lame statement like that. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Of course - mbmt

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You feel some kind of strange need to tell me I'm ignorant....wild!!!

I don't know about suits - he he

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but I sure did see a buttload of cowboy hats in the crowd. Yeehaw!

You got that right! - mbmt

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Ya'll have more intestinal fortitude than I! - bootstraps

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I've been immersing myself in OT, the Weather Channel, and some awesome B&W's on Turner as a diversion from politics, especially the Convention.

But I did click over once and caught a glimpse of Chris Chistie. I didn't listen long. I know the script. But what popped into my head was the last thread I participated in where some posters made fun of Obama's ears. At least Obama has no control over his ears.

You know what really bugs me - Trigger Happy

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about him. I look at him from one angle and I'm like...he is kinda hot. Then I see him from another angle and I'm like...he isn't hot...he is goofy looking. It is weird really. I know that has nothing to do with politics but I just had to get that off of my chest. ;)

Whereas, when I look at Joe Biden - sm

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my skin crawls. ;)

paul ryan - mnmt

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Hot? Not hardly. I think he sorta looks like a grown-up Eddie Munster.

Not to interrupt this "serious" discussion, but... - (see message)

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...this reminds me of a description I read online somewhere right after the Paul Ryan nomination. It said that he looks like the love child of Eddie Munster and Mr. Bean. :-o I know--that's awful (awful funny).

Holy cow! - Trigger Happy

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I actually like Paul Ryan but that is really funny. Bahahaha!

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That is so wrong on so many levels - Trigger Happy

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but I can't help laughing. LOL Especially the Ryan/Eddie pics.

Oh my gosh! - mbmt

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While I don't think Mitt and Herman look alike and I think Mitt is a very handsome man, I have to say that there are definitely similarities between Paul Ryan and Eddie Munster, even that little V-shaped hairline...LOL.

Click here - <------- for another look-a-like

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That is so wrong! When Obama was running and - backwards typist

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someone would post pics of him like this, there was so much indignation and screaming bloody blue murder on the part of the dems and liberals, you'd think the poster committed murder (and I'm not just talking about this board).

Yet, the republicans aren't supposed to scream bloody blue murder when these comparisons or worse are/were posted?

Sorry, I don't think photos from either side are funny. I think they're hateful. JMHO

There's a huge difference. And I was not trying to offend anyone. - sm

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Comparing Paul Ryan to Eddie Munster or some actor on Glee is just a joke... and he looks A LOT like the guy from Glee in that pic. If something like that was done to Obama, it really would be no big deal. Please note that the pics of Mitt (who is very handsome and in no way looks like Herman Munster except for the facial expression he was making matches) and Paul were untouched, and the Glee picture is the actor from the show and not Paul Ryan at all.

However, I saw some of the pics that were going around about Obama, and I don't remember any of them except for the racist ones. Please don't eye roll, because I'm not exaggerating.

Go go Google Images and type in "Obama Funny" and hit search, and you'll see exactly what I mean. There's a lot of racist and offensive stuff there such as Obama as Hilter, Obama with a bullet hole in his head, Obama as Bin Laden, Obama as Satan, Obama with KFC... it just keeps going.

However, I did find one... just like the type that I posted but with Obama... to make you feel better. "Fair and Balanced" joking I guess has to be the standard.

barack obama, funny, lol, spongebob

That's funny - RC

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Some of the pics are just funny and not offensive. I guess it's subjective.

Agree with you - mbmt

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LOL...It's okay to get it off your chest.

According to what I read, it closed in 2009-just the facts, please - backwards typist

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Timeline:

However, while December 2008 saw the end of the vast majority of the plant’s work, the Gazette itself has reported that the plant didn’t close fully until April 2009. Here’s a timeline:

June 2008: GM announces that the Janesville plant will stop production of medium-duty trucks by the end of 2009, and stop production of large SUVs such as the Chevy Tahoe and Suburban and the GMC Yukon in 2010 or sooner, depending on market demand.

December 23, 2008: SUV production ends, and more than 2,000 GM workers are laid off, according to the Gazette. Medium truck production continues.

GM then put the plant on standby, meaning it could reactivate the facility if it decides it needs to ramp up production.

Feb. 19, 2009:

http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/feb/19/gm-plant-last-day-finalized/

Thursday, April 29, 2009:

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/04/final_truck_rolls_off_line_at.html

Stop listening to the hijackers at MSNBC, who tried their darndest to embarrass Scott Walker, but he held his own.

Timeline (according to CBS6):

However, while December 2008 saw the end of the vast majority of the plant’s work, the Gazette itself has reported that the plant didn’t close fully until April 2009.

December 23, 2008: SUV production ends, and more than 2,000 GM workers are laid off, according to the Gazette. Medium truck production continues.

April 23, 2009: The plant’s medium-duty assembly line, which produced an Isuzu line, closes, ending vehicle production at the plant and resulting in the loss of 57 production jobs, according to the Gazette.GM then put the plant on standby, meaning it could reactivate the facility if it decides it needs to ramp up production.

Feb. 19, 2009:

http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/feb/19/gm-plant-last-day-finalized/

Thursday, April 29, 2009: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/04/final_truck_rolls_off_line_at.html

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