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Rubio:We Don't Need New Taxes. We Need New Taxpayers.


Posted: Jul 8, 2011

I like his idea of analyzing each new tax proposed for it's job growth potential. And no teleprompter.

 

The video is about 6-1/2 minutes here:

http://rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2011/7/senator-rubio-we-don-t-need-new-taxes-we-need-new-taxpayers

Senator Rubio: "We Don't Need New Taxes. We Need New Taxpayers."

The transcript:  "Our total debt is about to reach the size of our entire economy. That's kind of the framework in which we're operating in when we discuss this. Now, I actually think we're closer to some sort of agreement on this, Sen. Ayotte, than a lot of people realize.

"I've heard the term thrown around in the last couple days, a 'balanced approach' to dealing with it, and I think there's agreement that there has to be a balanced approach. I certainly have always said that you cannot simply cut your way out of this problem. You have to have a combination of cuts and growth, growth and revenues to government. I think the debate is, how do you accomplish these two things? And I'm not going to focus so much on the cut part of it today. I want to focus on the revenue part of it because that's the part the president and some of my colleagues here have focused on over the last day, this idea of getting more revenue or this new term, 'revenue enhancers,' which is Washington talk for more money to the government.

"And, according to the president, some in his party, most in his party I should say, the idea is simple that...in America that are making a lot of money, more money than maybe they should be making, and they just need to pay more in taxes. And if these people pay more in taxes, then all of these problems will get a lot easier to deal with. That's kind of the viewpoint they bring to this debate.

"Yesterday, we saw, and I know tomorrow the majority leader, we'll be voting here on the floor on something the majority leader has offered up, something called the 'sense of the Senate,' which people watching at home may wonder, 'What is that?' Well, that basically means what's on the Senate's mind. The 'sense of the Senate,' this thing that we're going to be voting on tomorrow, is basically that you've got a bunch of people in this country that make over a million dollars, and that these people need to do more to help with the debt. That's basically the 'sense of the Senate' that there's going to be a vote on tomorrow -- very interesting things.

"So, I looked at it because ultimately this is a serious issue. So, let's explore this with an open mind. Let's not be doctrinaire, let's not be blindly ideological. Let's look at this from a common sense perspective, this idea that all these millionaires and billionaires, if they just paid more taxes, these problems would be solved. Let's analyze it. This is all about math.

"And here's the fact: the fact is it doesn't solve the problem. First of all, if you taxed these people at 100 percent, basically next year you said, 'Look, every penny you make next year the government's going to take it from you,' it still doesn't solve the debt. Not only does that not solve the debt problem, but I looked at a host of other -- a great publication that came out today from the Joint Economics Committee, our colleague Sen. DeMint chairs it. And it kind of outlines some of the tax increases being proposed by our colleagues in the Democratic Party and the president to solve the debt problem. And you add them all up, you add all of these things up -- the jet airplanes, the oil companies, all of the other things they talk about -- you put them all together in one big batch, and you know what it does? It basically deals with nine days and 23 hours worth of deficit spending. Nine days and 23 hours of deficit spending. That's how much it solves. So all this talk about going after people that make all this money, it buys you nine days and 23 hours. Let's round it off. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. It buys them 10 days of deficit spending reduction. That's what all this stuff rounds up to.

“So, here's the bottom line: These tax increases they're talking about. These so-called revenue enhancers, they don't solve the problem. So what do we do then? Because clearly we have to do two things.

"One, we have to hold the line on spending, if you keep digging yourself in the hole, the hole is going to bury you. But the other thing is, how do you start generating revenue for government so we can start paying down this debt? And that’s what the debate should be about.

“We already know these taxes they're talking about don't work. So, here's what works. Here is what I would suggest works in a balanced approach, using the president's terminology. Let's stop talking about new taxes and start talking about creating new taxpayers, which basically means jobs. Now, here in Washington, this debt is the number one issue on everyone's mind, and rightfully so. It is a major issue. But everywhere else in the real world, the number one issue on people's minds are jobs. And I'll tell you every other problem facing America -- a mortgage crisis, home foreclosure crisis, this debt problem -- all of these issues get easier to deal with if people are gainfully employed across America.

"And the impact that unemployment's having across this country is devastating. We hear about unemployment in facts and figures. They give us numbers, Sen. Ayotte, 'Oh, X percent people are unemployed.' Well, there's stories behind every one of those people. You know who a lot of these people are that are unemployed in America? They are people that have done everything they've been asked to do, and they've done it right. Maybe they served their country overseas, maybe they went to college and got a degree and now came back home. Maybe they worked for 10 or 20 years and did a really good job at work, and now, you know what, they can't find a job. Or maybe they were lucky enough to find a job after losing their original job, but it pays them half as much, and they work twice as long.

"That is the real face of unemployment in America, of people that are hurting. And our job here is to do everything we can to make it easier for them to find a job, not harder. And I think that's what we have to do when it comes to a balanced approach and when we talk about revenue.

“We don't need new taxes. We need new taxpayers, people that are gainfully employed, making money and paying into the tax system. And then we need a government that has the discipline to take that additional revenue and use it to pay down the debt and never grow it again. And that's what we should be focused on, and that's what we're not focused on.

“So you look at all these taxes that are being proposed, and here's what I say. I say we should analyze every single one of them through the lens of job creation, issue number one in America. I want to know which one of these taxes that they're proposing will create jobs. I want to know how many jobs are going to be created by the plane tax? How many jobs are going to be created by the oil company tax that I heard so much about? How many jobs are created by going after the millionaires and billionaires the president talks about? I want to know: How many jobs do they create?

“Because I'll tell you, and I'm going to turn it over to Sen. Ayotte in a second. I'm interested in her perspective on this as a job creator, as the spouse of a job creator who runs a small business, as someone like me who just came off the campaign trail. Let me tell you something. I traveled the state of Florida for two years campaigning. I have never met a job creator who told me that they were waiting for the next tax increase before they started growing their business. I've never met a single job creator who's ever said to me I can't wait until government raises taxes again so I can go out and create a job.

"And I'm curious to know if they say that in New Hampshire because they don't say that in Florida. And so my view on all this is I want to know how many jobs these tax increases the president proposes will create because if they're not creating jobs and they're not creating new taxpayers, they're not solving the problem."

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Rubio's confusion over jobs creation vs jobs killing - Analyze this.

[ In Reply To ..]
Among all his blah, blah, blah, show me a plan, any plan that Rubio either sponsored or voted for that would create jobs. What has come from GOP House or Senate action since January 2011 that would pass scrutiny under Rubio's "lens of jobs creation?" House republicans often tout the following measures as jobs bills, while bitterly complaining about how they are allegedly being blocked by Senate democrats. Rubio should start by explaining how they create jobs.

Under the subheading of Empowering Small Businesses and Reducing Regulatory Burdens (no mention of corporate interests)

HR 872. Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act. Removes Clean Water Act permit requirements for dumping pesticides into navigable water systems. How many jobs would this create?

HR 910. Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011. PROHIBITS the EPA from EVER promoting or enacting measures to regulate the emission of greenhouse gases to address climate change. How many jobs would this create?

HJ Res 37. Disapproving the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission with respect to regulating the Internet and broadband industry practices. While I agree with keeping the Internet open, by any stretch of the imagination, a symbolic vote of disapproval is NOT a jobs program. We need plans, people.

HR 72. A resolution to direct CERTAIN standing committees to inventory and review existing, pending and proposed regulations and orders from agencies of the Federal Government, particularly with respect to their effect on jobs and economic growth. Sounds great, but what about the flip side of examining jobs loss and economic contraction? Who are these (red flag) select committees who will be subjected to these new requirements? More importantly, which ones do not have to provide jobs creation and economic growth impacts under this GOP proposal? Exempted house committees are Appropriations (!), Armed Services (as if military operations expenses do not effect jobs and economic growth), Budget (!!), Ethics (the guys in charge of pork oversight), Homeland Security, House Administration (the bucks they give themselves), Veteran’s Affairs (jobs for veterans and their services workers don’t count?), and Intelligence. No senate committees. Obstructing some committees while green lighting others. How many jobs would this create? Hidden agenda is suspect when looking at the committee targets.

Under the subheading of creating jobs by fixing the tax code, we have

HR 4. The Small Business (GOP-speak for corporations) Paperwork Mandate Elimination Act. Repealed an IRS requirement for corporations to report payments exceeding $600 for any type of property an increased amount of tax credit for employer health care premium contributions for employee households of 400% below poverty level. How many jobs were created by reducing paperwork burdens and corporate tax credits for abjectly impoverished workers?

Subheading: Maximize Domestic Energy Production to Ensure an Energy Policy for the 21st Century. Oh boy.

HR 1230. Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act. An oil company enrichment measure that would take BP and Yellowstone of the radar screen and prioritize production over environmental disaster prevention. It has the added value of helping corps mitigate their ongoing astronomical legal expenses from recent oil spills.

HR 1229. Puttng the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act. A similar oil lease sales nod to O&G as in HR 1230 but much broader in scope. It would extend lease terms on drilling activities that are NOT producing or were subject to suspension under the moratorium. It narrows definitions of and expands restrictions on civil actions and appeals, shortens filing periods for such actions and tries to impose statutes of limitations on court hearings. In an astonishing over-reach, it removes “administrative” burden of proof requirements, restricts the introduction of new evidence, and eliminates such considerations as putative/pain and suffering damages. Exempts the govt from having to pay attorney fees and court costs in any action, including ones where they have been found to be at fault. Yep. A real job generator.

HR 1231. Reversing President Obama’s Offshore Moratorium Act. We see a pattern emerging here, but this one pits presidential authority against that of the states while expanding long-term drilling initiatives. No mention of restrictions on job giveaways to foreign workers or cheap prison labor.

Finally, we have the laughable GOP claim to the living-within-our-means (Debt) initiative:

H. Con. Res 34. A resolution establishing the budget for the US Govt for FY 2012, etc, etc. Bachman: Default? What default? Let’s just pay interest. Given the current state of affairs, I will refrain from further comment on this hype.

Here’s where they are touted as jobs bills.
http://www.thatssaulfolks.com/2011/06/21/gop-jobs-proposal-killed-by-senate-democrats/

O&G jobs for Americans???
http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/us-big-oil-paying-foreign-workers-12-min-wage-gulf-oil-rigs

blah, blah, blah - icedT

[ In Reply To ..]

It's not blah, blah, blah as you like to call it.  I get that you despise him - that's clear - maybe because he represents everything you loathe (?), but do you agree that we need more taxpayers and not more taxes? 


I don't feel like having the line-by-line debate today with you about these bills you sited, but even still, I think we would be better off debating them separately in different threads, don't you think?  I'm wondering why you mentioned them - does Rubio have his name attached to them? Or is it because they are Republican-sponsored bills and anything the Republicans think or do automatically something that Rubio believes in?  I'm trying to see your connection of Rubio to these bills. You cannot possibly smear one congressman by mentioning all these bills from other idoits in his party.  If so, we could certainly have a field day with legislation done by both sides of the aisle. This could be fun.


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