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One year anniversary AND BLM continues

Posted: Aug 9, 2015

The death of Michael Brown or the visibility of the Black Lives Matter movement. IMO, 11:55 a.m. (CT) marks the one year anniversary of the death of Michael Brown at the hands of a police officer who should have and could have made a different decision. I think he would have made a different decision if he were not racist. IMO, if that had been a white person in the EXACT same situation, he would have lived through the situation. So, I have read lots of opposition to that line of support, here, in particular, nevertheless, this is the one year anniversary of the Black Lives Matter movement. This movement does live on, mainly because it is not represented by only one. (I could be cynical and say that if it were represented by only a few, I am certain they would have been exterminated by now.) Without this event one year ago, would we have ever heard about Kajeme Powell, Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, Sandra Bland (unfortunately, only to name a few)? Maybe Tamir, afterall, he was just a child. I have attached an article, written by one of the prominent activists as an anniversary article for the movement. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/09/ferguson-civil-rights-movement-deray-mckesson-protest?CMP=edit_2221 Interestingly, the Bernie Sanders event yesterday was interrupted by the Black Lives Movement. Only thought on that is that that is the only venue BLM thought they could survive doing that. Any other politician would have had them arrested. This was a bit over-the-top, but frequently that is what it takes to bring visibility to an issue. Unfortunately, we are all complacent if not. http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/watch-black-lives-matter-protesters-interrupt-bernie-sanders-speech-seattle ;

Big deal. This does not belong here. - Go to Gab Board.

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Bye.

How can this not be a political issue? - Sorry but it is

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I know the moderator also believes it is not and so these posts WILL probably be relegated to the "Gab" board (how ridiculous, let's gab about the killing of African Americans by police, oh, and any good recipes?).

I do NOT think this issue will be able to be swept under the Gab carpet in this next election. You think African Americans turned out for President Obama?

If any candidate proclaims this to be a "non-issue" or worse yet denies it exists at all, and let's face it that candidate will be a Republican candidate, then that, combined with their efforts to stop minorities from voting at all, will result in record turnout from said minorities.

Why can't Republican candidates address this issue truthfully?

Not political. Ask the moderator. - No race baiting is allowed.

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This issue went from Politics to Gab and back - to politics a year ago-OP

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and I considered both options. This is what I chose. (The gab people didn't care for it because it was too political.)

This is not race baiting. It is my opinion and view. It is a sociological perspective on what is going on in society that some people will read and some people won't. I am not attacking anyone's views on MB--I am stating my own. I am stating that it is the beginning of a movement and I posted what I consider to be a very reasonable article discussing that issue.

Can someone please explain how this could - be considered "race baiting"

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This is a movement which has grown up around the many, many instances where African Americans end up dead after what could be considered minor interactions with the police.

I am so glad the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, seems to be handling this issue with the gravity it deserves, and the seriousness, and giving the REAL race baiters no reason to jump up and down because she is calm, stating the facts, and trying to investigate and make sure these incidents do not go on.

You have to admit, the facts are bad, and the political structure which has allowed the mindset of the police to feel they are judge, jury, and executioner to grow has got to be examined and changed.

Alderman Antonio French has offered some solutions - if it takes stopping 90% of black motorists and making up charges and then adding penalties and even jail time for minor offences in order to pay for the police payroll, maybe the population cannot support a police force and it should merge with another police force. Same thing with all those bureaucratic government jobs - if they can't be paid for by property taxes or other funds, maybe they need to go.

The definition of race baiting is:

The act of using racially derisive language, actions, or other forms of communication in order to anger or intimidate or coerce.

To me I immediately thought of Fox News using "thug" all the time to describe any young black man who has been killed by the police.

Well, how about you suggest the president stop the race-baiting? - Truthhurts

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Does it every time. He has divided this country for 7 years and put us back to the '60s through his Professor Gates, Trayvon, Michael, and Eric speeches.

He is a race baiter but so many people don't see it. When he chooses to go to a funeral or send delegates to a thug or criminal, yet does not go to, or send a delegate to, a hero's funeral (those servicemen and police gunned down by terrorists in THIS country), then that's showing hatred.

The vote on Loretta Lynch is still out on her fairness.

I guess you also feel that the shooter in Ferguson last night should be immortalized should he die because the poor kid was shot by police AFTER he fired into a police van AT police without ANY provocation.

When stupid people do stupid things, they deserve what they get. When Michael Brown attacked a store clerk and stole cigars and then attacked a cop, that was a stupid action.

There are some bad cops in this country, but 99.9% of them are good cops and don't deserve the hatred Soros' group (Anonymous and BLM) has fostered on them.

Is that the bullying tactic the left will use next time? - sm

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That's what its beginning to sound like.

That's sad.

It is not bullying, it is just fact that there is a - large segment of the population ignored

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taken advantage of and frequently abused...they are organizing and they will vote.

Oh, puhleeeze. - Spare me.

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So sick of those playing victim and then using bullying tactics when their demands are not met.

Part of the culture of victimhood, elements of culture - taking cues from Obama,

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With Obama, we have endless victimhood and attempts by the “oppressed” to “get even” at any cost. The presidency under Obama has set the country into one of the worst moods I’ve ever seen. Even Carter with his malaise wasn't this bad.

The horrifying stories of 50 million aborted babies' body parts being sold is being shrugged as no big deal.

Obama's "victims" have won my indifference.

There's an old saying, "To those who believe no proof is - necessary. To those who don't

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believe, no proof is possible."

I think the latter sentence describes Obama's "victims" perfectly.

The "victims" usually just want free stuff and the politicians offer it - for votes after convincing them

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they "deserve" it's America fault.

Bribery on a massive scale.

Oh, puhleeze---try visiting the other side - of the tracks sometime

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I was born and raised there. - Spare me.

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And made the decision NOT to be made to feel oppressed or victimized. I like what Dr. Carson said the other night about "the useful idiots." That 25-second snippet says it all and should be shouted from the mountaintops for people of every ethnicity to hear.

Boy do I agree - anonie

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Dr. Carson is a very intelligent and far thinking man. He has his pulse on why these people are out to suck blacks into a race war with the whites.

I am not black, but wouldn't he have made the most wonderful first black president rather than Obama. I sure think so and I would have voted for him. I still hope he is in the running on the ballot in our primary in Indiana and that I can vote for him. I think it would be neat to have Carly Fiorina and Dr. Carson as our president and vice president. I don't really care in which order, but it would sure help all views in this country.

Neither may have any experience, but those who claim to have had experience have not done such a grand job, have they? I mean who on earth would have ever sent John Kerry to negotiate with the Iranians. Other so-called things like Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. Worst one in history outside of Kerry.

Anyway, you see where I am going with this.

I cannot even understand why anyone would rather lie for Mr. Obama and the rest, i.e. his press secretaries. Honestly, I would not try to convince anyone about any of these horrid deals we have had to endure under Mr. Obama.

I just hope these two get to be up there pretty far in the polls so as to remain on the ticket. I am sick of voting for the lesser of two evils like we have had to do for the last many, many elections I have voted in.

Anyway, people, I just do not want to see us go through another horrid struggle like Civil Rights. Lots of us lived during that time and we remember the awful times and the awful assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy. Assassination of John F. Kennedy changed my generation. I was 19 when he was gunned down.

We have to learn from history and our mistakes. Let's please not make another huge one siding in with Al Sharpton, etc. I once liked Jesse Jackson, but I no longer do. I am to the point of being more than fed up. In all the elections I have voted in, I don't ever remember feeling this way.

Boy do I agree - Bobo

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Glad to hear from someone my age, and I agree totally with everything you said.

Ben Carson had a tough life but overcame it. I think as - president he would have brought us all

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together by acknowledging our past and encouraging the future by focusing on our strengths as Americans.

Obama wants revenge and encourages hate and retribution. He truly is a divider.

I love Cuba Gooding, Jr. too - nm

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He played Ben Carson in Gifted Hands. Great - movie!

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Ben Carson is an Uncle Tom according to the Black Caucus - Truthhurts

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and any other Dem who puts down blacks who believe in the good of America, not just in the good of one race, one color.

I loved his closing statement at the debate. Got his point across very well. :)

I also agree with your statements, especially - Truthhurts

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the Civil Rights fights.

I'm no spring chicken and I still remember the principal coming over the loud speaker at 1:05 telling us that the president was dead, and I was afraid, wondering what would happen to the country now.

Today's disobedience and disruptions and protests remind me of that time, only it's more sinister this time because a group of people decided they want "justice" for thugs and criminals. This is not about their civil rights. They have the same rights as anyone else but if they don't obey the law, they are arrested, just like everyone else...except they feel they can disobey the American laws. The backers of these groups are making sure not to let this country have peace and the president isn't helping by his race baiting.

What about justice for the police who did nothing and were gunned down in cold blood? Shall we start protesting for them? Nothing is said when they're gunned down even though they may not have been white. Why? Does it ruin the purpose and reason for the discord? I think so.

I believe in justice and protests that want justice for all. BLM is not one of them.

There's always a large segment of the population - who feels "ignored" and

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are always miserable. Look at Susan Sarandon. She's always mad about something and she has a charmed life.

Don't look to the government to solve problems. Do the best you can with what you have, challenge yourself and move forward. That's all any of us can do.

I feel zero sympathy for BLM. My goes to victims of - children of the slave industry, sex and

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otherwise. Here's the website if interested. There are REAL victims in the world who need our help, including Christians who are being beheaded by ISIS.

https://ourrescue.org/

It is not a "bullying tactic" - it is the truth

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You think it's a threat that BLM members feel disenfranchised in this society and will do anything in their power, albeit one measly vote, to change this?

You think the Republican candidates feel this is "blackmail" - pun not intended, i.e.:

Accept the truth of what has happened and what continues to happen in our over militarized, gun crazy police forces, or else (you don't get our vote)?

You could put it that way, or you could put yourself in BLM shoes and if you can show these idiotic candidates that ignoring this problem will NEVER get their vote, that is not bullying, that is fact, and it is a fact they ignore at their peril.

Same thing with health care. Same thing with Social Security. Same thing with women's issues.

I guess I am bullying the Republican candidates by stating I will not vote for them because of their horrible record on being for welfare for the corporations and the rich, deregulation of the workplace to my detriment, promoting wage theft and job offshoring?

I know a conservative who only votes Republican because she is a strong Catholic and anti-abortion. That is the only issue she, and many others, care about. I have tried to explain to her that it is proven that more access to contraception and sex education invariably results in less abortion, but she likes the lip service the right wing gives to it so they have her vote. How is that any different?

Everybody has their issue and the line they may or may not cross. Republicans will NEVER get the votes of low income and minorities (except a certain percentage who watch Fox News relentlessly and nothing else) if they cannot even accept the facts and continue to give lip service to their alternate reality.

So you think we should honor a thug? No thanks. - Alllivesmatter

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I'm sorry you don't understand what the movement - Black Lives Matters means

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If you are curious you will find out.

Ask Bernie Sanders what it means. - NM

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I am absolutely certain he understands the - meaning and by his actions

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understands the space needed to allow people to speak their minds. That is a very big Bernie tenet. I don't even think he looked particularly disturbed, and certainly not afraid.

I would have loved to have seen the reaction of many of the Republicans in dealing with that situation. They would have been "fearing for their lives." One can only hope the candidates are not armed and an extremely bad result would occur.

Code Pink did the same thing to Ted Cruz. He let them speak, - but they didn't proceed to shout

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and act obnoxious like this BLM crowd. They actually had a conversation. I didn't see anyone "fearing for their lives."

BTW, Bernie left.

Ha! Bernie understood. He allowed them to speak BUT - Truthhurts

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they REFUSED to give up the podium so he left. I don't believe he was very happy about being pushed away from the microphones when it was HIS RALLY, not theirs.

Eventually BLM will be treated like Code Pink - ostracized, ignored, and thrown out of political rallies if they keep up the same tactics. This is the 2nd time they disrupted a rally, so if they want to be hated, let them continue the same tactics. It'll get them nowhere.

I already understand the motive behind it. - Alllivesmatter

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Perhaps if the movement would move towards something constructive instead of shutting down rallies to honor a thug or looting, or burning, or acting like idiots they would accomplish something. It's all just bs and the only thing it IS accomplishing is turning more and more people against them. Way to go!

BLM reminds me of Occupy Wall Street movement. - Just another form of disruption. nm

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BLM, Black Lives "Madder" - NM

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It has nothing to do with black lives. It has everything to - do with creating an angry group

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of so-called "oppressed" rising up against the so-called "oppressors"

Yeah, let's just keep honoring a thief and a thug - Truthhurts

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and let's just keep acting like BLM really cares about people. They care only about anarchy. The more they protest, the more they will be looked down upon by NORMAL people who care about their cities.

They are not making points with politicians either and I notice a lot of white people getting involved. How dumb are they? Young liberal college kids who know nothing except what people like Bill Ayers teaching Alinsky tactics, funded by people like George Soros and the only interest the Ayers and Soros types is to keep creating discord, havoc, and hatred within the country and bring it down.

When did America become so stupid?

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