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NFL Annihilates Clinton Speech In Ratings

Posted: Sep 6, 2012

Okay - 22 million to 3 million, and 3 other programs outpulled him as well.

It's comforting to think that at least 88% of the population know what's worth watching...

...and what isn't.

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signifying nothing - nm

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Know what's great about technology?...sm - JTBB

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It allows us to look up Clinton's speech and others at will, allowing those who have other plans, have to work, etc to never miss the action.

However...speaking of ratings:

MSNBC celebrated a major milestone on Wednesday when it topped its rivals in primetime convention ratings for the first time in its 16-year history.

TVNewser was the first to report the news. An MSNBC spokesperson confirmed that it was the network's first-ever convention victory, and the first time that it beat its rivals head-to-head while all three were covering the same political event.

MSNBC's victory came on the first night of the Democratic convention in Charlotte. The network was first in both total viewers (4.107 million) and in the coveted 18-49 demo (1.432 million.) CNN came in second, with 3.88 million and 1.368 million in both categories. Fox News trailed far behind, drawing just 2.398 million total viewers and 550,000 in the demo -- a far cry from its ratings on the first night of the Republican convention, when it drew a whopping 6.87 million viewers. MSNBC was also the only channel to grow its ratings from 2008. All of the other networks saw their ratings drop sharply.

NBC was the overall victor for the night, drawing 5.02 million viewers.

The disparity between MSNBC and Fox News could be chalked up to simple partisanship. Democrats are more likely to watch MSNBC during the Democratic gathering, and Republicans are more likely to watch Fox News during the Republican gathering — and to stay away from watching the DNC altogether. But it's also a reflection of the success MSNBC has had in solidifying its brand as the go-to network for progressive and Democratic viewers.

MSNBC president Phil Griffin reacted to the news in an interview with HuffPost's Michael Calderone at the MSNBC Experience center in Charlotte.

"As somebody who's been here pretty much throughout the whole time, it's tremendously exciting for everybody here," he said. "To be number one on a big night, where we've never been number one before, to beat a couple of networks, to beat CNN, to beat Fox, it's just a credit to everybody here. It's exciting. And it's hopefully going to launch us the rest of the year and into years ahead."

Oh, give it UP, JTBB. Pathetic spin. The same could have - been said about the game.

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I can, however, understand that MSNBC might have rejoiced at beating Fox for one night out of the last more than 10 years. And of course, the reason was:

1. Sensible people were watching the game.

2. Fox viewers are sensible people.

You do the math.

And I thought your party celebrated success...sm - JTBB

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silly me.

Math worth doing. Check out Twitter traffic to see - what NFL shunners were up to. nm,

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not to mention Facebook and other social media outlets. IMO, football is for flunkies. I could care less how many millions of them think a pigskin is more important than our nation's future.

Technology's great. I tried to read the platforms (mercy!), - but the GOP's was particularly fascinating,

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what I got through of it. (It just may be as long as the Affordable Care Act :). I ended up using word searches. Mercy again! Every extreme conservative view possible is in there. No wonder Speaker Boehner felt obliged to admit in public that no one actually reads these things.

I copied this from the record of an interview with him that explains it:

The Republican platform is circulating about in different copies, online, in print, said Gizzi. Based on the reports you've seen, is this a good document to run on fully, and in particular, the parts about auditing the Federal Reserve, number one, and the review of government agencies as to their efficiency without calling for shutting them down. Are those things you feel that Republican House members can run on comfortably?

Boehner's response: Well, I have not seen the platform, but from every indication that I've heard I don't see any major changes in this platform from what we have had in the past. And if it were up to me I would have the platform on one sheet of paper. Have you ever met anybody who read the party platform? I've not met ever anybody.

This, to use Michael Kinsley's definition of the word, is a gaffe: when a politician inadvertently speaks the truth. For all the haggling over the details of the Republican platform, CNSNews.com writes that "some activists work for months just to win the right to attend the convention and influence the platform, the fact is that no one of any consequence in the party reads, much less adheres to, the party's statement of principles. It exists to convince the grassroots that the party leadership is listening to their concerns and intends to use them as a guide for formulating policy. In practice, however, it is largely ignored.

For example, every GOP platform since 1980 has called for the passage of a human life amendment to the Constitution and the restriction of taxpayer funding of abortion. Yet no such amendment has ever come close to passing Congress in the last 32 years; and Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider, continues to receive generous federal subsidies, including $2.5 billion during the presidency of pro-life Republican George W. Bush, six years of which coincided with GOP control of one or both houses of Congress.

As early as 1996, Republicans urged the elimination of the Departments of Commerce, Housing and Urban Development, Education, and Energy, and the elimination, defunding or privatization of agencies such as the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and the Legal Services Corporation. Again, despite GOP majorities in Congress and eight years of the Bush administration, every one of those departments and agencies remains in existence and with a larger budget.

This is not to say that elected officials never do what their platforms say they will do. The 2000 Republican platform called for passage of the American Dream Downpayment Assistance Act, and Bush and his fellow Republicans in Congress made it a reality three years later, helping to set the stage for the housing crisis, one instance in which ignoring the platform would have been a good idea."

(BTW, this next could be the congressional session when some of those things that were always ignored are no longer. I confess that as a Dem I pray Speaker Boehner is able to somehow herd his litter of alley cats, but those ideas are on the ascendance, at last among a long-committed minority who are finally making themselves strongly felt.)

They're bragging about that? - backwards typist

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I would be embarrassed. Note the "for the first time in its 16-year history."

Nothing to brag about. I turned it on the first night only to switch in a split second after hearing all the garbage spewing hate and liesfrom the "hosts."

RM: Totally wrong about "Republicans hate unions." It's taxpayers she should be talking about.

1. Taxpayers are against paying exorbitant pension plans and health care costs, the exorbitant salaries the union bosses make, and the expensive conventions they hold while they (taxpayers) are out of work and/or have no health care.
2. People should have the right to work at any place they want to work. You shouldn't have to belong to a union to get a job.
3. People should also have the freedom to join, or not join, a union, not be forced to join.

That's what it's all about. Unions have outlived most of the reason they were begun to begin with and are no longer necessary. Union members should not have to support the head honchos, which is what has happened in the past 20 years.

Is this more tit-for-tat, comparing... - (s/m)

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....ratings, like someone compared Honey Boo Boo's show beating out the RNC one night last week? :-)

A lot of people would give up their right arm before they would miss a game (liking to watch it live rather than after the score spoilers slip) but might figure they can always record Clinton's speech to watch later.

Considering the way a lot of people... - (see message)

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...take things so literally here--"give up their right arm" is just an expression, BTW. Of course, no one would LITERALLY give up their arm to watch a football game (hopefully); but it does seem to be the case that sports are a religious experience for some! :-D

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