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My brother was targeted for an IRS audit


Posted: Feb 13, 2014

My brother was audited by the IRS. He did not realize he needed to report/fill out some form for a small estate amount he received in a will. He subsequently got the discrepancy cleared up and it was no big deal. There is this guy, Ben Carson, who seems to be all upset that he thinks he was targeted by the IRS. I am thinking he makes a lot of money and perhaps has had a filing mistake or 2. Here are some common reasons that people are audited as per Kiplinger's *Making Too Much Money Although the overall individual audit rate is only about one in 100, the odds increase dramatically as your income goes up. Recent IRS statistics show that people with incomes of $200,000 or higher had an audit rate of 3.26%, or one out of every 30 returns. Report $1 million or more of income? There's a one-in-nine chance your return will be audited. *Failing to Report All Taxable Income The IRS gets copies of all 1099s and W-2s you receive, so make sure you report this income. IRS computers are pretty good at matching the numbers on the forms with the income shown on your return. A mismatch sends up a red flag and causes the IRS computers to spit out a bill. If you receive a 1099 showing income that isn't yours or listing incorrect income, get the issuer to file a correct form with the IRS. *Taking Large Charitable Deductions *Claiming Day-Trading Losses on Schedule C *Claiming Rental Losses *Deducting Business Meals, Travel and Entertainment *Claiming 100% Business Use of a Vehicle *Writing off a Loss for a Hobby Activity *Claiming the Home Office Deduction IRS is drawn to returns that claim home office write-offs because it has found great success knocking down the deduction and driving up the amount of tax collected for the government. If you qualify, you can deduct a percentage of your rent, real estate taxes, utilities, phone bills, insurance and other costs that are properly allocated to the home office. *Taking an Alimony Deduction *Running a Small Business *Failing to Report a Foreign Bank Account *Engaging in Currency Transactions *Taking Higher-than-Average Deductions If deductions on your return are disproportionately large compared with your income, the IRS may pull your return for review. But if you have the proper documentation for your deduction, don't be afraid to claim it. There's no reason to ever pay the IRS more tax than you actually owe. ;

hmmm - sm

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Do you have to pay taxes on money inherited from parent's estate?
In: Estates, Probate [Edit categories]
Answer:

An inheritance is not considered income for individual income tax purposes.

Was your brother the executor? I can't find anywhere where anyone needs to fill out a form. I know a family member who was an executor and she never had to fill out the forms. The taxes were paid for by the estate before they got their inheritance.

"And then there is this guy, Ben Carson..." Okay, didn't have to read any further to know where this was going.

And yes, when people are targeted by the IRS it is upsetting.

Actually you are absolutely right! - Bluebird

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In my post I did not detail my personal story because I did not feel it was that important to my point. But for your information, I also received the same little inheritance; however, my brother was audited. We received the check with a statement/form from the attorney and were told to give it to our tax preparer. I put it with my taxes and at that time, had a tax accountant do my return. I never thought about it again. I did not have to pay taxes on it. However, the bank payor submitted a form to the IRS, something like a 1099, interest account, or 401K rollover form, and when my brother did not submit his matching one, it threw his return into the audit pile. I hope that satisfies your curiosity.

Like I said, the point of my post is that I do not know why this Ben Carson was audited, but there are many reason to do so. Apparently he is a very highly paid doctor, perhaps he has a lot of deductions, including a home office and gives a lot to charity. I do not know. If anyone has seen a copy of his tax forms, I am curious. Has he made a statement to Fox regarding what the IRS was looking for and how they resolved it?

I recall how Romney would not disclose his tax forms. I wonder why? I understand his pet horse was quite a good deduction.

Well what I do know is this - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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Since it had only been 4 months since he gave the speech speaking out against America's leadership, I'm pretty much certain it had nothing to do with his pay, unless he won the lottery in 4 months, his income probably had not risen the that height in four months that would make one get an audit.

I'm sure he is a high paid doctor, and from reading everything about him he is worth what he gets paid. But he's no more highly paid than other doctors who also happen to be democrats. I doubt very much within the four months from giving his speech all of a sudden he had a whole bunch of new home office deductions that would be different than what he files every year.

I'm sure his tax forms are available. Just like Romney's and Obama's were, but no, they should not be made public. You, I and other people don't need to know exactly how much money everyone makes. I know I don't walk down the street with a copy of my tax forms handing it out to every Tom, Dick and Harry, so they (who do happen to have personal/private lives) should be no different. Last I knew Dr. Carson was not running for office.

Besides, you do know that Gov. Romney did provide the appropriate tax forms.

As for the horse, thought I'd bring you up to speed on a few facts, that of course the liberal media decided to not talk about.

The horse, an olympic quality dressage horse named Rafalca, is an investment owned by Rob Rom Enterprises LLC. The tax code lets you carry disallowed hobby losses forward to offset hobby income in future years. That tax code applies to everyone. Are you saying that the Romney's should not be afforded the same laws that others get? They did nothing wrong.

Now...if you want to talk about deductions, we could talk about Bill Clintons underwear that he wrote as a tax deduction or we could even talk about the Cayman Islands, but that would be for a new thread.

You know that these things apply to Dr. Carson? - Really? Please.

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Maybe you missed this - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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I'll post this article because I think maybe you missed this part of the incident.

First he is part of the Tea party, so of course it's not news that anyone belonging to that group would get audited.

Second, he was targeted for an audit just months after he gave a speech in front of President Obama that challenged America’s leadership. The agency requested to review his real estate holdings and then conducted a full audit.

“I guess it could be a coincidence, but I never had been audited before and never really had any encounters with the IRS,” Dr. Carson said in an interview. “But it certainly would make one suspicious because we know now the IRS has been used for political purposes and therefore actions like this come under suspicion.”

The encounter came just four months after his speech in February at the National Prayer Breakfast, an address that brought him into the national spotlight and one in which he decried the “moral decay and fiscal irresponsibility” of the U.S. in recent years.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/irs-targeted-dr-ben-carson-after-prayer-breakfast-/

And away we go... - NPC

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All we had to do was show a little interest in Dr. Carson and the fur starts to fly. Of course, I have no in-depth knowledge of Dr. Carson, but I would bet it's going to be extremely difficult to find anything negative about him. My advice to anyone tempted to besmirch his reputation is to first please read up on him. Learn about his upbringing and his fight to better himself in the face of adversity. He is a remarkable human being. Dr. Carson has to be one of the most gracious individuals I have ever heard speak. Aside from all of the above, think of the compassion that must be in his heart to make his profession that of a pediatric neurosurgeon. He is obviously not a perfect person and has flaws, but I eagerly await learning more about him.

He's still claming victimhood. As the OP said, lots of people are audited for - lots of reasonsNM

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particularly for being political mouthpieces - nm

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But remember what the prez said about - "not even a smidgen"
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of corruption at the IRS? Why did Lois Lerner so suddenly depart? There is more to this story, much more. The entire "IRS scandal" has yet to be uncovered. There are a lot of conservative groups and people who have been targeted. You can call them victims if you like.
He's claiming victimhood, not me. I've been audited and I understood the - reason
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Everything came out well for me, but I never thought of myself as a victim or a target. There were things on my tax return that would invite an audit.

He's not claiming victimhood. You are claiming he is saying that. - He never once said he was a victim.
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nm
I guess it's those who always blame libs for claiming victimhood are saying - he is NM
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Or giving an opinion that differs from the big boys. - nm
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:-)

He's not claiming victimhood. He's just stating a simple fact - although....

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people who are targeted by that group for no other purpose except speaking out against the incompetency are victims. However, Dr. Carson is not one to cry victim. He's just stating the facts.
So he falls into no category that would cause an IRS audit? - sm
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The fact is people, many people, from both parties are audited. He is claiming victimhood by saying he was "targeted."

Um, yeah he does. Tea party category, but he has not come out - claiming VH, that is only here
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Dr. Carson is an adult, does not cry victim. Saying you are audited because you are in the tea party or that you speak out against the current crowd is far from VH, it's just a simple fact.
But all parties are audited. I don't get why he just doesn't show some class and speak t - truth
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If your income tax return has a red flag, and they are many, why cry victim and just not accept your tax return has some of those red flags. It's not a bad thing. Business owners, people who show losses when they should be showing gains, excessive donations to charity, etc. All these people get audited eventually.

I'm a Democrat. I'm not a victim. I was audited.
But you didn't get audited just because you are a democrat - Big difference
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Again, he's not claiming victimhood, that is only posters here who keep writing that. He is not.

Not playing fish anymore.
I didn't say I was audited because I was a Dem. I was audited because - there were red flags
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on my return. There probably were on Ben's too. Maybe it has to do with that and not party affiliation. Unless proved otherwise, he was audited for the same reason many other Americans are audited for. He is crying victim. Plain and simple.
I think the shoe is on the other foot here. - Read/see link below.
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:-D
I didn't say you said you were audited because you were a dem - what I said was...
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He falls into the category of the people being audited - The tea party.

What I also said was "But you didn't get audited just because you are a democrat - big difference".

Nothing changed for him. He files his taxes the same way, took the same deductions as always, etc, etc. The difference is that he spoke out against the leadership in this country, plus he belongs to the tea party. Lets not play games here.

Stating the facts is not crying victim. It's just stating the facts, plain and simple.

End of bait for fish.
Since when is being audited corruption? It happens all the time. - unbelievable
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he needs to man up.
When it happens because you belong to the tea party. And since he's not - complaining he's more of a man
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Than most.

He stated a fact that's all. I think Obama needs to man up.
We Need to Abolish the Victim Mentality - Might you be mixed up by this?
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Perhaps the word "victim" stuck in your mind, but not the context???
I'm not mixed up - sm
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People can be audited for any blip on the IRS screen. This is just the way it is. I hate to say this, but it really is the American way of life. I want offenders of tax fraud to be prosecuted. So if that means I am audited, I don't like it but I'll deal.

I don't understand why such a prolific American has a problem with this.
He just stated a fact. You are blowing it up. - It is a coincidence, or not.
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It just so happens to coincide with the "no smidgen" of IRS corruption quote by B.O.
Where is the corruption? The man was audited. Does everyone cry corruption when they are - audited?NM
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The corruption is when you get audited because of the party - you belong to
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Let's stop playing games here.
I thought spamming was not allowed on this board - You only need to post once
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Have you not been following the news regarding the IRS scandals? - NM
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NM

About Dr. Carson and the posts claiming he says he is claiming "victimhood" - Mrs. Tingles - sm

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Something didn't sit right with this whole "victimhood" thingy posters here say his is claiming. Since Dr. Carson is a man of high principal, responsible and a truly genuine human being I found some information about him. I find it interesting what he writes and lives by:

Dr. Benjamin Carson: 'Abolish the victim mentality':

http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/dr-benjamin-carson-we-need-to-abolish-the-victim-mentality/

Dr. Ben Carson: Refuse to Be a Victim: (Lots of goodies in the link below)

http://activitypit.ning.com/forum/topics/dr-ben-carson-refuse-to-be-a-victim?commentId=1981927%3AComment%3A2495354&xg_source=activity

Dr. Ben Carson: My mom “refused to be a victim”:

http://chiropractorgreenville.com/dr-ben-carson-my-mom-refused-to-be-a-victim/

Victim is just not in Dr. Carson's vocabulary. Like another poster said, once you have a really good person, upstanding, brilliant who has worked his whole life to get where he is, has earned the respect of his peers, is honest, who happens to be in the opposing party the "fur starts to fly" (yes that does make me giggle too). That statement actually fits perfectly with what the media is doing to him.
Thank you, Mrs. Tingles... - NPC
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Just wanted to thank you for your support the other night when everything seemed to go south with that poster regarding victimhood. I had actually written quite a lengthy response to you the next morning, but it was never posted because the entire thread was being dismantled (rightfully so) at the time. I also thanked that the other poster who wrote about posting without a moniker. I'm not sure if he/she saw my thank you. I will still probably post with my moniker from time to time, but I will be more careful because of, well, you know...Again, thank you!
You're welcome - found an interesting link - Mrs. Tingles
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The whole victimhood thing someone kept posting is what got to me to start doing my own research on the issue. Never once did Dr. Carson claim he is a victim. I read that post, kind of laughed because it is so out of context with him, but then when pointed out he's not claiming victimhood they kept posting as though the facts were not presented.

I think Dr. Carson is a really fine and upstanding citizen. He has overcome a lot in his lifetime and achieved so much. He did it himself and he didn't cry about it. He learned excellent values from his mother and he carries those values throughout his life. He is dedicated to helping people and wanting what is best for everyone and for the country too. So why are people so insistent on cutting him down and saying things that are just not true I have no idea. After analysis it actually it just boils down to one simple thing. He doesn't carry the "D" after his name. If he was a democrat the media and everyone would be praising him, but because he is not they have to tear him down.

I was reading awhile back about Saul Alinksy (not in depth of course as it was making me sick to my stomach), but the overall jist of it was that, when you can't find anything on your opponent personally tear them to shreds. The more blood the better. I think politics is a lot like the old gladiator events in the colosseum (my husband was just reading about what it was really like - not good), but when you think about it I think it's a very accurate comparison. The gladiators were thrown into the colosseum and the bloodier they get the better while the crowd jumps up and down, cheering giving the thumbs up/down. Kind of funny, kind of sad. Unfortunately because Dr. Carson spoke out against the wrong, they have now thrown him into the colosseum. But he's a smart man and doesn't let things get him down. He'll just pick himself up, brush off his pants and leave the arena.

In amongst my research I found this article below. Sums it up in a nutshell (as the saying goes). You may have already seen it, but thought it interesting to post.

Also, if you ever want to send me a personal email you can reply to my message and we can always talk off board. Have lots of different sites I go to, but don't post a lot here.

Thanks for your message. Look forward to reading more of yours too.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2012/04/13/12_ways_to_use_saul_alinskys_rules_for_radicals_against_liberals
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this article... - NPC
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This is a great article for several reasons, one of which is it makes me believe some of Alinsky's tactics must be in the playbook for the lefties on this board. Maybe we ought to do what is suggested in the article? HA! Thank you for the personal email invite. You may see a stranger in your inbox before too long. :-)

P.S. I have signed up for their deliveries.

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