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Interesting info on Farm Subsidies
Posted: Apr 4, 2011
You can look up by state, by top producers, who the owners of the farms are, and more. Spend some time looking. See what you think.to the left are links, or you can go to the home button and start there for different subjects.
http://farm.ewg.org/regionsummary.php?fips=00000&statename=theUnitedStates
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Well, that was an eye-opener for me - Stunned!
[ In Reply To ..]I looked at the congressional districts for my state expecting that the Democrats would be getting all the subsidies, but they were almost 100% Republican.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing that the Republicans get all those subsidies for their constituents, including the new Governor of our state who was on that list? The constituents obviously are happy to get the money and I'm sure they were happy to help those people, including the new Governor, to get elected recently. It's a matter of interpretation about whether it's good or bad. If you own a very large farm as these appear to be, you would like the money and those who 'gave' it to you.
Except that it wasn't their money to 'give' - Was it?
[ In Reply To ..]This is one place where I would cut.
This is one of the things the pubs want to cut - Backwards Typist
[ In Reply To ..]Don't know if it will happen, but they're trying. I can see giving subsidies to small farmers, those with 100 acres or less, but not those gigantic farms like Tyson, probably Perdue, and others like it.
That is news to me. - Who is proposing cuts?
[ In Reply To ..]What I have read:
"The fact that so many more Republicans in Congress receive so much more in farm subsidies than their Democratic colleagues does highlight the GOP�s controversial decision to spare those programs from the budget ax � even as it slashes funding for so many others. Consider:
�In January, David Rogers of Politico, and Phillip Brasher at the Des Moines Register, reported that the Republican Study Committee proposed to eliminate the meager federal funding for an organic food growers� program without even mentioning the the possibility of cutting spending for entitlements that send checks out to largest producers of corn, cotton and other commodity crops � regardless of need.
�Then last week (March 21), National Journal reported that the Republican-led House Agriculture Committee is backing cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program � previously known as food stamps � in the face of record enrollment levels triggered by high unemployment. But not even minimal reductions were proposed to the excessive payments to wealthy farms.
The GOP-led support for subsidies also comes at a time when big commodity farms clearly don�t need taxpayer funding.
The farm sector is white-hot, and has generally fared extremely well as recession gripped the rest of the economy. Farm income and prices for commodity crops are soaring. In 2008, $210,000 was the average household income of farms that received at least $30,000 in government payments that year. But according to the House Agriculture Committee and the Republic Study Committee, payments to those farms should stay in place while the record 43 million Americans enrolled in SNAP � millions of whom are unemployed for the first time � face slashes in the help they get to put food on the table."
Cuts to Ag should be done via the - Billie
[ In Reply To ..]Farm Bill. The appropriations bill being debated by Congress is not the right place to deal with Farm Bill spending — the 2012 Farm Bill is the right place. But if the Farm Bill must be cut in advance of 2012, then EVERYTHING needs to be on the table, including the $5 billion spent on direct payments that go to farmers and landowners, REGARDLESS OF NEED OR CROP PRICES.
Oh I wish I had time to get into this - no1joe
[ In Reply To ..]I actually just took a quick break from work that I actually have coming in today (wow). Anyhow, this is a topic that has me on fire. If you ever find yourself bored, look up corn. Yup... corn. It will keep you busy for weeks.
Also, some good documentaries on the subject: Food Inc. (which I would not recommend for the overly squeamish because it shows where our food (meat) actually comes from) and King Corn/Big River.
The sad part of it is that when some people hear "farm subsidies," they think that the American farmer is living the high life at the expense of the taxpayers. It's the complete opposite. If Old McDonald was written nowadays, the lyrics would be a lot different.
I hear ya no1joe. This is a topic that is SO - misunderstood by SO
[ In Reply To ..]many. The marketing of products with bucolic farm scenes in their ads and on their packages is not what farming is in the US. And it is agribiz, not farmers, who are getting subsidies. I live in the "garden state" and our poor farmers have had to sell their land to developers because they can't make a decent living on farming or even value added, yet food costs continue to go up for consumers because of shipping costs. This is too big a topic for this forum.
17 GOP legislators personally take in 5.3 million - I feel sick
[ In Reply To ..]We need farm subsidies,but not education, roads and bridges, childhood nutrition, health care, and support for senior citizens?
23 Members of Congress Receive Farm Subsidies
Sunday, April 03, 2011
Rep. Stephen Fincher Whether it�s $30 billion, $60 billion or $100 billion, slashing the federal budget means cutting back on a lot of programs. But farm subsidies are not facing the axe, and having nearly two dozen lawmakers receiving such financial support may have something to do with it.
The Environmental Working Group has determined that at least 23 representatives and senators, or their family members, applied for farm subsidy payments between 1995 and 2009. Seventeen were Republicans and six belonged to the Democratic Party, with the GOP taking in more than $5.3 million, compared to only $489,856 for Democrats.
The biggest beneficiaries of farm subsidies in the current Congress have been:
· Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-Tennessee) $3,368,843
· Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Missouri) $469,292
· Rep. Kristi Noem (R-South Dakota) $443,748
· Sen. John Tester (D-Montana) $442,303
· Rep. Tom Latham (R-Iowa) $330,046
Fincher, Hartzler, Noem and Tester are all first-term members of Congress.
Oops! How come you didn't mention the - one Democrats on the list?
[ In Reply To ..]Because they took less, it's ok? ROFL. Yeah, now I feel a little sick too.
Because it is overwhelming Republican hypocrisy - nm
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with a strong dose of equally overwhelming - Democrat hypocrisy...
[ In Reply To ..]including your own for being so willing to overlook the timber in your own eye while screaming at the top of your lungs at the splinter in the other guy.
That is what hypocrisy means. Kinda like...ok..maybe we are bad but they are much, much worse.
LOL. Seriously?
Yeah, the T-party/pubs take the money for themselves and cut help for the poor. - nm
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This post has an implied second - statement...I can almost
[ In Reply To ..]hear it..."and, and, they're ugly and their mommas dress'em funny!!"
Would expect it out of 12-year-olds but really....can't we elevate the discourse just a LITTLE bit??? lol
Not for nothing... - no1joe
[ In Reply To ..]Again, look into this subject (not just the writer of ths post, but everyone). There's no Dem/Pub right/wrong here. There's just a huge problem that we would probably wind up all agreeing on.
I agree...and probably we would have had it not - started as an attack piece
[ In Reply To ..]at one party like they were the only ones responsible. Don't you get tired of post after post after post that just start for the sole purpose of blaming one party or the other? So that the real issues are buried under all that? I am sick of it in Congress, I am sick of it by the President...just sick of it period. We are not going to ever be able to fix what ails this country if we cannot stop pointing fingers long enough to do it.
That is why I am not, nor will I ever be, a member of another organized political party who votes in rote lockstep. That's how we got here, and that is NOT how we will get out.
Off my soapbox now.
Yes, that is why I am so sick of the birther rants - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Where is your indignation for that waste of time?
First, stop the name calling. It is petty and not - necessary.
[ In Reply To ..]Then, if you will follow the threads, one post about Obama's missing birth certificate followed by several "against birther" rants that are childish and that is the kindest word I can say about them.
Kind of like yours thrown in on a thread where it doesn't even belong.
Aren't you tired of this yet? Well..I guess you aren't, are you? lol.
This post was not about birthers. Stop getting off topic and - Backwards Typist
[ In Reply To ..]post about the subject. It's not necessary to post if you have nothing to add to the topic in discussion.
I guess that would be where your mind is at - Not mine
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So you find that a mature and truthful - statement? Seriously?
[ In Reply To ..]Well I guess you do, which tells me where your mind IS at.
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