In the spirit of understanding, I have a question for Romney voters.
Posted: Oct 22, 2012
Would you please explain to me why Romney is getting your vote that has nothing to do with Obama or socialism?
If your reason includes his stance on abortion, please specify which stance and also include how you feel about the personhood amendment and all that it implies.
Basically, I'm interested to know why you trust him. I'd like this answer to be about Romney specifically.;
His stance on abortion is the only reason - I DONT want to vote for him
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Otherwise, I'm of the opinion that Obama has shown us that he can't fix this country. Time to give someone else a chance to eff it up.
That's an Obama-centric reason. I'm more interested - in Romney-based reasons. nm
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I didnt state an obama-centric reason, I told you why - I dont want to vote for Romney
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It just so happens that as strong as I feel about that reason, it's not enough to make me want to vote for Obama instead. As I said, it's time to give someone else a chance to eff up this country.
"Obama has shown us that he can't fix this country." - is what I was referencing. nm
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And poster would be correct! - -
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Why vote for 4 more years if the first 4 failed? That would be dumb.
But that isn't the focus of this thread. - Romney is the focus here. nm
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I beg your pardon - sorry
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I was responding to the post: "Obama has shown us that he can't fix this country."
Its not my fault you cant see beyond that statement - I gave you a valid reply
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It has nothing to do with Obama.
I think that a big problem that a lot of people have.... - sm
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with President Obama is that the economy has not improved as fast as they would like. I too wish it were improving faster, but the fact remains that as a nation we ARE better off than we were in 2008/2009. The stock market has totally recovered from its low point of 6500. We are currently over 13,000. The unemployment rate peaked at 9.9% nationally in Sept 2009 and has pretty steadily decreased since then to 7.8% now. Whatever the argument is that the true rate is higher, it is a fact that over the past three years the unemployment rate has decreased 2.1%. We do have a long way still to go but I think it is disingenuous to say that things are not better. Sure and steady Obama gets my vote.
I am amazed at normal people like us who don't - really have SM
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a true understanding of everything involved in getting our economy moving think they know that it should have been done in 4 years. LOL I include myself in this BTW. There are no many variables involved in this, and yet we know it alls think we have the answers. My vote comes from agreeing that to grow an economy, it has to be done from the middle out, not top down. I firmly believe this, and I think top down has been shown in the past to not work. Why do it again and expect a different result is my question. Until someone addresses the devastating impact of offshoring ( and I believe Obama wants to penalize those who do this and reward those who don't)on the loss of jobs in this country, it will only get worse. Just think of our jobs. Wouldn't it be nice if these MTSOs were financially penalized for offshoring our work? Bain (Romney) right now is in the process of offshoring jobs in New Hampshire and he could care less.
Can someone please tell me how you grow from the middle out - JC
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Where is the money going to come from to grow the middle class from the middle out? There are three current sources: you get a job from a person who has more money than you, you get money from the government, or you start your own business. You usually get a job from a rich person you hate or from a company you hate. To start your own company you either have to use your own money (which is rare) or borrow from a bank and the bank usually lends out rich peoples' money. Money that comes from the government comes from taxes that I also pay. So just exactly how are you growing the economy from the middle out? Please explain in detail. Thank you.
The human (term used loosely) Etch-a-Sketch - has no real stance on anything.
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He was for it (fill in the blank) before he was agin it. A perfectly oiled weathervane.
In the "spirit of understanding," why do you want to know this? - Liberty
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Thank you.
Because I'm sincerely interested - sm
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in the thought process. In my mind, the only thing Romney has to recommend him is that he sincerely seems devoted to his family and to his faith. That's it. I'd like to know what his base sees in him.
If you're afraid I will use the responses to jump into a snark-fest, that's not my intention. Others, of course, might and it's a free internet.
Romney - xx
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My reasons have to do with Obama and Romney. I never voted for Obama in 2008 and had no intention of voting for him this election. He has had four years and we are worse off. Time to get it right.
I have watched video of Obama and heard what he speaks of, and he is a socialist. He doesn’t love this country. He doesn’t think this is a great country. The past four years he has made us look like fools to other countries. The attack on our Ambassador was an act of war and he has done nothing. That is the message he sends out to the world – We are weak. I believe he wants to ruin the United States. The Libya lies go on and on.
I don’t believe in all these government programs. People are not encouraged to ever get off them and get a job. He isn’t for the middle class. He is for making us all poor and dependent on the government.
I have no reason not to trust Romney. I agree with his views to a high enough degree that he earns my vote.
I do not believe in abortion. I think if people watched a video on what happens it might just change their mind.
Thank you. Your answer does seem to be - sm
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more of a vote against Obama, though. Can you expound on Romney's positives that have earned your trust and your vote a bit more?
romney - xx
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If you think about it, a vote for Obama is a vote against Romney and vice versa.
Romney is a conservative and I am myself. When I listen to Romney speak, I agree with what he says he will do and I believe he has the capabilities. Isn't that what it comes down to. People listen to these two different candidates and figure out for themselves who they believe is more sincere. I believe Romney is. I believe he is a genuine person, honest, and good person. The fact that he did an outstanding job as governor and has experience "running" a state is a big one for me. Obama had zero experience managing anything and the past four years proves that. I am not going to list what Romney says he will do and how I agree with it. You can visit his website for that and I don't imagine you want to hear it. You are set in your vote, as I am in mine, and I don't believe it is even possible to change an Obama supporters vote. They need to make that change themselves, and I believe on election day we will see that the world has made the right choice and Romney will be president.
OK, that works. That's what I was looking for - sm
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and I agree with you in that each of us is obligated to listen for ourselves and responsibly educate ourselves.
I'm not necessarily expecting a line-item list in anyone's response, but if they want to include one, that's great.
Your answer of experience running MA is an example of what I was looking for. Feel free to expand your answer if you feel like it.
It looks like no answer is going to be good enough for you - The Sarge - sm
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Your posts look like the typical bait questions. Every time someone posts and answer that is not good enough. Just what exactly is it you want this information for? It's obvious that no opinion here will change your mind. You will still be voting for Obama, so why the bait. I didn't answer your first post because it was suspicious. Others chose to take the bait, but this constant but, but, but.
People are voting for Romney for many reasons and many good reasons. The economy, foreign affairs, etc. Romney/Ryan has a lot of positives. They know how to balance a budget, fiscally responsible, conservative in their viewpoints. All are good reasons.
But no matter what anyone posts you will always come back that it's not good enough.
Do you realize - RC
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the post you are responding to, is one in which the OP basically stated "okay thanks, that's what I was looking for...such and such was especially helpful..." and then proceeded to offer NO rebuttal, only acceptance.
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Then you came on and said THAT? In response to it?
I invite you to keep reading. I (the OP) haven't, and will not, - offer any argument or rebuttals. sm
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What I have done is asked for further clarification because I'm interested in the responses.
YMMV.
As far as why I'm asking - OP sm
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it's because I'm putting my money where my mouth is (or where my fingers are). You're right in that I am voting for Obama and won't be changing my mind, but that doesn't mean I can't genuinely seek to understand those who don't agree with me. Not everything has a nefarious agenda. :)
Again, YMMV.
Replied to wrong post. Should have been under - Thank you. Your answer does seem to be
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The trouble that I have is he never explains...sm - ctmt
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HOW he HOPES to balance the budget, reduce the deficit, give tax cuts, and what loopholes he BELIEVES should be closed. We all know that he would have to work with Congress, but that is no excuse for him not giving some specific answers as to how he HOPES to accomplish his goals if we vote for him. I have heard nothing specific and am troubled by his changing his stance on so many issues.
Neither does Obama - sm
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But he's a lib so he gets a pass.
I know what Obama believes and what direction...sm - ctmt
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we are headed in. Romney, not so much.
and I guess you're happy with where Obama is taking us. - No more to be said then except (sm)
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Red States of America
I am really curious when Romney says he will - create 12 million jobs and SM
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they will be good paying jobs to boot. I want to know what these jobs are, in what fields, and what does he consider good pay? The only think I can think of is infrastructure jobs, but Obama has pushed this and has been shut down by congress. What else? ANyone know?
Infrastructure - jobs
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will be a good idea if Romney gets in and he will take credit for it. This is one of the reasons Obama can't get anything done. Congress won't let him do anything because they want the pubs to take credit for it. Obamacare was taken a lot from the republicans (both sides actually), but it was only a good thing when Romney did it as governor, according to him. As far as the pay, I'm sure not much.
Things are starting to turn around be it ever so slowly, and if Romney gets in he will say he turned it around and the pubs will agree. Even though we cannot say the economy took a dive when Bush was in, they will claim it got better because of Romney. Funny how that works.
The stimulus was supposed to be for infrastructure jobs - JC
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Obama pitched the Stimulus as creating jobs. But if you look at the wording of the bill it talks about public sector jobs only. It appears to have been payback to unions for their support. I work for a State Education Department. The school districts that got the stimulus money banked it. They used it to pay for things that were already in the budget so they could bank it. Don't be fooled when government says they are here to help. Most government programs create more problems than they solve and cost significantly more than the projected costs. The cost of Obamacare has tripled since it has passed from $900 billion to over $2.7 trillion. Why are you people voting for the likes of Nancy Pelosi who said you had to pass the Obamacare bill to find out what is in it? Obama promised that all major bills would be posted on the internet for at least 2 days (at least) and that all negotations over the health care would be on CSpan. Neither happened.
the world? LOL - mmm
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The world has made the right choice? Since when does the world get to vote for our president? LOL If this is indicative of what Romney's base believes, you all have a lot more to worry about than who is president.
It was a figure of speech, relax - JC
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It's amazing how you can jump on one word but give Obama so many passes.
I dont think viewing video of an abortion will - change peoples mind
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I've seen the videos and pictures. I'm 100% for abortion rights. I'm shocked that people can actually be against abortion, unless their *** religion dictates it.
I shudder to think of the millions of unwanted babies, being raised by mothers who don't want them, being abused, or worse. What about the increased taxes they will take out of OUR checks to support millions more welfare babies? Because I'm *** sure all you people against abortion don't plan to raise the unwanted babies! And I don't want to support them either!
Don't get me wrong, I am actually against late term abortion unless there is a medical reason, but early on, feel free to abort that ***
abortion - xx
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Apparently we did not watch the same video or see the same pictures. ***. That turned my stomach. Makes me curious if you are a mom or ever had a baby and can still call it a ***. Do you realize how many people could give that a baby a good home -- people who can't conceive a child of their own. You aren't concernd about your tax dollars paying for all these abortions? More careless sex and more abortions.
So, you are voting for Obama because he is for abortion and don't forget he also vetoed the born alive act. Guess that is all okay with you too.
Here is the dichotomy: If they really were - concerned about SM
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too many abortions in this country then access to contraception would be high on their list as a way to prevent unwanted pregnancies. These two views do not compute to me.
Abortions don't prevent pregnancies, they end them - JC
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Preventing means the sperm doesn't meet the egg.
Why do you assume I am voting for obama - just because I am FOR abortion?
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I really don't like either one of them, but I'll probably vote for Romney just because I've had it with Obama's hope and change that got us nowhere. Even with Romney' stance on abortion, he is not going to get it changed. There are a ton of bible thumpers in this country that have been trying to get rid of abortions for a long time. Sorry folks, it's not going to happen.
To address your other points: Yes, I'm a mother. I've been pregnant and carried a child to term and raised it for 18+ years. I've also taken my best friend to have an abortion, and supported her right to do so 100%. Her body, her decision. And yes, I can call it a "blob of cells", which aparently got edited by the mod? LOL
You ask if I realize how many people could give that baby a good home... do YOU know how many unwanted children are already in foster care? People only want to adopt the cute little newborn babies. When those older kids are all adopted and have happy homes with loving parents, then maybe I'll agree with you that unwanted babies should be brought into this world for "barren" couples to adopt. FYI, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
And no, I'm not concerned about my tax dollars paying for abortions because it's a LOT cheaper than paying to raise a welfare kid for 18 years! Honestly, did you not consider that before you typed the words? Because it's pretty simple to see which takes less out of our pay checks.....
You are wrong about people only wanting cute babies - JC
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We looked into adopting an older child but the cost was $10,000, which we could not afford. Imagine if we could adopt the child for free and used that $10,000 to take care of the kid.
You make the assumption that only poor people get abortions. I would guess that most abortions are by young women under the age of 18, some poor, some not.
I think we could take care of the older children in foster care by making the adoption process more accessible and cheaper.
It's a good question. Some are against dems and Obama. - But who's FOR Romney and why? nm
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Nothing specifically. He's just not Obama. - It's an ABO election, and (sm)
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you don't want the words used, so nuff said.
This is your chance to stump for Romney, though. - Might as well take it nm
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Romney...and why I am voting for him... - Liberty
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Besides the fact that he is conservative and I am conservative and all of the obvious reasons that some have already listed here, Romney is a man of character. He has done so many wonderful things for people {testimonials by many} and he did these things not for thanks or praise, but from the goodness of his heart. Among these many stories is a testimonial that I recently heard - Mr. Romney gave a blank check to a family so their son who was left paralyzed and in a wheelchair as a result of an automobile accident could go to college. The Romney family brought the check to the family on Christmas Eve.
Romney doesn't want to be president for the fame or power, he wants to be president to help America become strong again and to help people get out of this economic mess we are in.
When I saw Obama command Candy Crowley at the last debate, "Get the transcript, Candy...Get the transcript, Candy," he showed a lot of disrespect for Crowley. It reminded me of a man sitting in his easy chair saying to his wife - Get me a beer. I know you didn't want to hear about Obama, but I am trying to explain the differences between Romney and Obama. Romney remained respectful to Candy Crowley and Obama didn't.
Thank you for your question.
Interesting comment about obama being disrespectful... - may be a generational thing
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Obama, like Clinton, is the "cool" president. He's not the stuffy old conservative president of my parents' generation. Now, I'm not actually a supporter of obama, so don't take that as me trying to say he's cool.
It's more that, like with Clinton, the modern president thinks he has to be the voters friend, be the cool, hip president, going on popular TV shows, and talking to "the people" like he's your buddy, not your ruler.
I think romney is more old school conservative "respect your elders" kind of guy.
That is my impression of the difference of obama and romney. So his comment to the moderator I felt was more of his general demeanor as the laid back type president who casually says "hey go get that transcript and we'll prove it!", and not meant in a demeaning way like he was ordering her to go get him a beer.
I hope that makes sense. It's just my interpretation. =)
Thank you to the original poster for asking this question! nm - Liberty
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My pleasure. I got the idea from a friend - sm
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who asked it on her FB page. I'm mulling over doing that as well, but FB is so oversaturated with politics... :/
I am not on Facebook, I get my kicks on Rt.66...sm - Liberty
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a.k.a. Political Forums! LOL! I am sure you are right...FB is oversaturated with political talk now.
Thanks again!
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