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I was just discharged from a hospital stay about

Posted: Sep 14, 2012

an hour ago. Aside from feeling good to be home, I also feel protected because I have Medicare.

If Romney were the president, I'd be out on the street with no insurance for instances like this because he hates Medicare.

This is my 14th hospitalization since 2006 for the same problem, which is very painful and caused by a genetic disease I inherited. My disease is incurable.

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ROMNEY NOR ANYONE ELSE WHO IS REPUBLICAN.

I will always vote my best interests first, which means Romney will NOT get my vote just so he can give more to the rich -- the rich, including himself.

If he wins this election, it will be due to purchasing the presidency by Romney and/or Karl Rove, etc., or the SCOTUS selection of the man that most of the people DON'T want.

He's gone mainly from bieing somewhat conservative to bowing down to the Tea Party and is now a fringe element.

After 8 years of Bush and his wars, do we really want to repeat that all over again? We have someone now who is NOT a hot head and who has tried to treat everyone fairly.

If you're part of the middle class (or shrinking middle class), you'll find YOUR taxes increased so that mone will be going to millionnaires and billionnaires.

I need my Social Security Disability (after working foir 40 years, usually holding two jobs down at once. I'm also entitled to my Medicare, and I won't defend that because I PAID INTO THE SYSTEM FOR 40 YEARS.

Now the Republicans want to take away all that to give to their rich friends.

If anyone hasn't read the post about an oligarchy, posted somewhere close by on this board, then PLEASE read the article because it is very important.

I'm sure Israel will jump the gun and "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," as was John McCain's "funny" theme song last time he was campaigning. Obama is trying to be a steady diplomat, which is what he should be doing. At some point, the Israelis will bomb Iran and we will get dragged into that war. Obama has made requests of the Israelis, who have just thumbed their collective noses at Obama, showing no respect for our country.

Since Romney and Netanyahu are such close buddies, Romney will make sure we get ourselves involved in a war against Iran. Obama promises no such thing. He is truly and methodically prudent man who has proven over and over again his dedication to his country, family and God. (Yes, that's right, GOD. He is NOT a Muslim like his mudslingers would have everyone believe.)

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Glad to hear you're home, SM. If we couldn't afford - Medicare, how would we afford its costs PLUS

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20% additional costs and profit on top of it?

The real, immediate question is for the majority of us here, who are older and not affluent, is do we keep a for-profit system that dumps us as soon as we have cleaned out our bank accounts and sold houses and then crawl off and die when we're milked of all profit, 20 or 30 years before we have to. OR do we use that 20% and more gained from MediCare-style efficiencies to pay for modern healthcare for ourselves? I'll even cancel a few for-profit wars if needed, especially with 3 little grandsons I don't want ground up in them.

So, not exactly a hard choice for me either. I love playing with my little grandchildren and plan to someday be a loving presence in the lives of their children too.

Thanks for your well wishes. I do appreciate them - sm

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and I appreciate very much the prayers from my friends (one of whom is a Rastafarian) of all different religions. I'm a Democrat and believe in the power of God and prayer. I appreciate them from people of ALL denominations or even if an athiest wished me well. That's called "inclusion," as opposed by the Tea Party and the far right fringe which Romney has become.

Who'd think that, considering that all Democrats thumb their noses at religion, and God, supposedly, as the Republicans are trying to brainwash people to believe.

I, too, love to play with my grandsons and my one great grandson. I'm on a fixed income and it will take me some time to pay off the medical bills I just incurred for four days in the hospital, since Medicare doesn't pay for all of it, but I'm very grateful the Medicare is there for me.

Of all the "industries" in this country, the one that deserves the most "moral authority" is not "thinning the herd" and throwing great grandma over the cliff.

If you love them so much, don't you want them - to have Medicare when they are of age? (sm)

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The liberals are screwing the _____out of everyone and no one knows it. God.

I wish EVERYONE should have Medicare. - sm

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Or better yet, a single payer program. The difference between life and death shouldn't depend on profits from an insurance company.

Glad you're feeling better. - sm

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That being said, the information you've been sold is way off the mark. In fact, they go right along Democrat party line talking points. In all honesty, if you were healthy as a horse you'd still feel that way. Am I right?

They don't go along with the Democratic party - sm

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If I was healthy as a horse, yes, I would still feel that way. People have paid into the system their entire lives. Maybe that's why it's called an "entitlement."

I want a president who cares about all people, not just the rich. And I didn't get that from the Democrats; I got it from Mitt Romney himself in his very own words.

You've been listening to the wrong people - MT

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The liberals are trying to scare people, saying that Romney will take away their Medicare. That is absolutely not true. They have said over and over, anyone 55 and over will continue under the same system. The problem is, if nothing different is done, Medicare WILL run out of money in another 12 years or so. Then what will you do?

I'm not sure of the details, so please don't slam me, but it sounds like the plan they want for YOUNGER people would give them a choice, to stay on the current system, or choose a voucher program.

At least they are addressing the problem. They know the money will run out if something doesn't change. Obama has no plan, except to steal money from Medicare for his Obamacare. He doesn't care what happens 12 years from now, because he'll be long gone.

Sounds like OP's been listening to herself and - is following her best survival instincts.

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Under the Ryan plan, MC $$ runs out in 2016 and we wait 30 years for a balanced budget while the ubers continued to rake in the dough with permanent deep tax cuts. It's pretty straightforward stuff.

Obama will have Medicare gutted, just like he - is gutting EVERYTHING else !! nm

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No, it's the Republicans that will have Medicare - sm

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"gutted," along with Social Security and all the other things they want to gut, as well as tax middle income folks so Romney's and Ryan's fat cat buddies can steal from the poor and give to the rich.

I LISTEN to what Romney/Ryan say, and there is no way on earth I would ever vote for someone like that. They certainly seem to enjoy running a fact-free campaign.

You're absolutely right that I've been listening to myself - sm

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And with my disease, it's a matter of life and death at any time. I'm starting to go downhill a little, and I've been fighting with all the might I have, feeling secure in the knowledge that the plan I've paid into for 40 years will be there for me when the time comes.

If there's one thing the Republicans do, it's an expert in using and exploiting fear among Americans.

Romney and Ryan have come out and said they would have a "voucher" system. I guess that would work as well as privatation of retirement accounts in the stock markets with greedy stockbrokers and clients.

And I'm sick of wars, too. I do believe the Israelis will be the ones to put the "fly in the ointment" and drag us into a war with Iran, twisting our arm all along because we have a man in the White House now who has used very measured, diplomatic tactics to deal with the world, and as a result, they don't hate us as much as they used to.

I like that kind of thoughtful, measured diplomacy Obama utilizes.

He has done a lot for this country, and his love of his country is abundantly clear, but the right wing demonizes him, as is plastered all over this board.

The distance between the richest and the poorest is growing wider each day, with many people who were once members of the middle class and are now lower middle class or poor. They're dragging down the middle class with tax increases that they plan to give to the rich.

Again, please read the posted article about oligarchies. This is happening right under our noses.

This is NOT the America I grew up in, and although I'm worried what might happen to future generations, the very most thing they need the most is the ability to keep breathing and not getting blown to smithereens.

Your post is appreciated and most definitely agreed with.

I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

As for me, I'm going to try to catch up on the rest that I DIDN'T get while I was in the hospital. LOL.

Sorry I had to take a break from all the board pollution - and just now saw your reply.

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The posts today make me feel like I am surrounded by the same extreme mobs I am watching protest the hideous hatred wingnut internet presence has brought to fruition. I just needed to step back from it long enough to reassure myself that cooler heads will prevail.

I too am dealing with deteriorating health after more than 45 years of paying into the system, but cannot afford to retire (age 63). I've been unemployed since Nov 2009 (drew the line when MT pay dipped below 8 CPL/4CLP VR since for me, it's not a living wage), am newly diagnosed with diabetes, have peripheral neuropathy in my hands and feet, evolving cataracts, hypertension, have destroyed my back after 4 decades of transcription, and am on anti-depressant and anti-anxiety meds for PTSD and depression. Haven't made it to Medicare just yet, and am not sure how I will pay my part once I do get there, since my retirement savings essentially evaporated when the market bottomed out. It is comforting to hear that someone in similar circumstances has been able to get the care they need under the MC plan, and I look forward to the day I will join the ranks of MC beneficiaries.

I too am horrified at what is happening to the America I grew up in, especially when I hear my son (age 35) try to explain to me what it feels like to live with one foot in that world, and the other one in the post-9/11 world....a day that changed his life forever, since he is physically identifiable as an American with Middle Eastern/Moslem parentage (his dad is a political refugee from Ahwaz, Iran). He, his dad, my current husband (also a political refugee from Tehran), their families and I live our lives on the wrong side of that line in the sand W drew in his "you are either for us or against us" declaration. When events such as those we now are witnessing flare, it becomes particularly difficult. My sister, her husband and my nephew are living in Rasht, Iran. I am worried sick about their safety and have not been able to establish contact to know if she is planning an "impromptu" visit stateside for the duration.

What gets me about the Ryan MC argument is the smoke and mirrors baloney about people over 55 won't be affected by voucherization, as if we all were of the "I-got-mine" mindset underpinning that disclaimer. I worry constantly that, not only will MC not be in my son's future, but also that the oligarchs will also manage to trash Social Security by the time his turn comes around.

I am with you 100%. There is NO WAY I could ever support the party I hold responsible for the kind of deterioration our country has undergone, that has become so tangible of late, which has so negatively affected me personally and my loved ones. It is unbelievable to me how bad it's gotten lately, ever since the DNC concluded and their slide in the polls has become so apparent.

Now this stupid, stupid, stupid hateful video trailer has triggered so much misery, destruction and death, and has imperiled the progress Arab Spring countries have made toward finding their way toward democracy, Middle Eastern style. I absolutely believe President Obama (and SOS Clinton) will be able to handle this crisis effectively and will ultimately emerge victorious in the upcoming election. I hope Hillary Clinton takes the office in 2016 as well. The alternative is just too horrible to contemplate.

I appreciate your posts and look forward to your future contributions to the forum.

Thank you, and thank you for your posts. - sm

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I really enjoy reading them because they make so much sense.

I agree that President and SOS Clinton are more than competent in that they speak very deliberately after careful review of the situation. They don't play the "cowboy diplomacy" that, if Romney has his way will lead us to yet another war against Iran, yet another country that did not attack us.

I feel secure with Obama's carefully measured, deliberated and fair comments. I feel he has done and is doing an excellent job in getting rid of the Bush style of "You're either with us or against us."

I also agree with you about Hillary in 2016, but she looks so tired out that it wouldn't surprise me if she just wants to retire.

I just hope that between the Republicans' voter suppression, past history of manipulating Diebold voting machines, etc. doesn't leave us with another Supreme Court selection because that would most definitely guarantee a Romney win.

Again, thank you for your posts and please keep posting.

She has to be listening to someone. - The Sarge - sm

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Everyone has to get their ideas from somewhere. You don't just sit in a chair in the middle of an empty room and dream up stuff like that on your own.

It's obvious that she's been listening to the wrong people. In fact your point proves it. Where did you hear under the Ryan plan MC runs out in 2016? You had to have heard/read that somewhere. It didn't just come to you in a dream out of thin air.

If people love medicare that's great. I'll be in that boat in 20 years, so I am very interested in what is going to happen to it. I am hoping there will be a better plan when I reach that age. Right now under democrats it will be gone by the time I reach the age. I will have been paying into a program my whole life and it will be stolen and I will have nothing. And I got my facts from reading about 8 or 9 different sites with opinions written by conservatives, liberals, independents, doctors, politicians, economists, and other people who are not interested in brainwashing mindless people. They state what is going on and what things mean if certain bills are passed and what it will mean if issues are not addressed and problems are not solved. We are supposed to use our minds and make the best informed decision with ALL the facts in front of us. Not conjuring up out of thin air that republicans are going to take away everything you own, leave you pan handling in the streets while they give everything you own to their "rich" friends. Never has happened in the past no matter how many times democrats said it would and it never will

Yes, I have been listening to the Republicans - sm

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own words. They don't hide the fact that they want to weed out the poor and elderly so the rich can get even richer.

I've never even read a democratic "talking point." I just listen to Mitt and Ryan spin their webs of lies and misrepesentations and dirty tricks.

You must be very proud of them.

Not the poster you replied to, but think I can speak for her. No, you don't listen to them - Because that is not what they are saying

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A little clue that tells everyone you do not or have not listened to them is what you just wrote, because they never said that.

We also know that what you wrote has been coming from liberal stations because "talking points" is what Chris Mathews and the crowd at MSNBC say (yes many of us listen to them too - that's how we know what you said is what you heard there - word for word.

I would say for me that would be a huge YES I am proud that I associate with the political group that understand how important individualized health care is, getting medicare fixed, making sure that our senior citizens will have the health care they need, that there should be a system in place to help our children and grandchildren and not just the few that all they think about is themselves and as long as they have it who cares about the younger ones, that we as working class citizens deserve the best health care and the best should not be for only politicians (like Peelousy, Reid, Clintons, Obama, etc). I am proud to associate with the party who shows they understand what the working class is going through. That they understand small business are what will make this country grow. That you don't penalize and tax them to you know where so they have no desire to create jobs for others. And yes, that when you create a business you do it by yourself through hard work not always because someone else gave you something, so therefore make sure whatever you make is divided evenly. I am proud to associated with a group that isn't filled with racist racists who fling around the word racist to the point where it is meaaningless and takes away the true and honest cases of racism. To people who are forward thinkers. To a group who hold the constitution very dear to their heart and know that America is nothing without it. I am proud that I don't associated with racist, haters, and liars. Ones who continue on a war that should not have started in the first place, won't take responsibilities for their faults, who are not interested in finding solutions, and who continue on dumbing down Americans.

You must be very proud of them.

Not even a nice try. Shame, shame, shame on you.

Go ahead and dislike my post. It shows me what I wrote is true.

Your post is ridiculous. - sm

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I remember when Romney said that housing foreclosures should just run their course and continue, so that investors could snatch up these properties and RENT them to people. So much for the American Dream.

All but two Republicans voted AGAINST the Lilly Ledbetter law. Combine that with their desires to eliminate birth control measures (so we would ALL have Ryan's particular religion forcefully shoved down our throats).

Ryan wants to "voucher" Medicare, which will cost seniors much more money so that they won't be able to afford healthcare. I guess that's his way of thinning out the herd.

Romney loves to fire people (his words, not mine). He wants to raise taxes on the most vulnerable of us so he and his rich friends can be given MORE tax cuts.

From the point of Obama's inauguration, Mitch McConnell said his main goal was to make Obama a one-term president, and he and his other Republican pals are trying to make sure that happens, and they'll lie, cheat and steal to make it happen.

The Republican party of today is NOT what it used to be. They pretend to want smaller government, while they're trying to control what happens in the privacy of the bedrooms of every American.

As far as solutions, Romney can't even say what they are. I guess it depends on what the Tea Party demands he do, rather than the majority of American citizens.

Obama has made history by making the Affordable Care Act law. There will never be a Republican who will ever care about the health of all Americans, and his rich buddies all have Cadillac health plans (as do members of Congress) so they don't have to worry. Obama could have accomplished a lot more if the Republicans' main goal was the country instead of making him a one-term president.

I certainly prefer a steady, diplomatic, deliberative hand when it comes to coping with the international community, whereas we will have more wars under the same "cowboy diplomacy" that Bush used to wage an unfunded war. Do you believe that THAT helped our economy?

We're now exporting oil instead of waging fake wars in order to steal the oil from foreign countries.

For one who claims to be "proud that I don't associated (sic) with racist, haters and liars," you certainly speak their language.

So shame on you!

As far as disliking your post, I sure did, but there isn't one iota of truth in the rant you wrote. You must be very proud.

No, ridiculous would be your post - sm

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1. Your first statement is exactly what the democrats are doing. No difference. Besides the American dream for a lot of people is long gone thanks to the democrats.

2. Nobody's religion is going to be "shoved down your throat". In case you haven't noticed no president/vice president whether democrat or republican has ever "shoved their religion down anyone's throat" sheesh!

3. Romney and Ryan need to get Medicare fixed. Thanks to yours truly it's going to go bankrupt and then where will our children and grandchildren be. Sorry, not so selfish to just care about me. It's going bankrupt under democrats. Romney and Ryan need to fix it.

4. Who cares if Romney likes to fire people. He will not have the authority just to fire people. Another Sheesh! Oh yeah, in case you haven't noticed Obama has put people out of jobs.

5. Who cares whether a republican says they want a democrat to be in their one term. Of course republicans only want one term of democrat. That's called politics. AND let me remind you since you purposely ignore this...when George Bush was elected it was the democrats job to make him a one term president. You see, that's the way it works in politics in case you haven't noticed. When a democrats get in republicans want it a one term (hence election 4 years later) and when a republican gets in democrats want it a one term. Oh your statement was so not a nice try.

6. No republican is trying to control what people do in their bedrooms. Now that deserves a big GET A GRIP!

7. The tea party is an important part of our country. Filled with US CITIZENS concerned about what is going on. Sorry you don't like that. Sorry you don't like people to be informed of the bad decisions and actions by the democrats. Under the constitution they have the right to stand up and speak when something wrong is happened. DEAL WITH IT.

Better to have someone working with the conservatives and tea party people than the democrat working with wall street, CEOs, bankers, soros, the communist party, etc etc

As far as solutions - Obama has none. More unemployment, more foreclosures, more payoffs, more credit downgrading, more wars, more more more of why our country is going down. NO THANKS.

Oh yeah, hate to burst a bubble in your world there. Obama and his rich buddes all have Cadillac health plans too. He was never interested in our health care. The purpose of this whole fiasco is control. But maybe you haven't read the plan.

The main goal of the republicans is to get people back to work. Create jobs, give small business a break so they can create jobs. Affordable individualized heath care for EVERYONE, not just the rich. Fix medicare and social security and for once in 4 years get a budget.

So the shame still lies with you for distorting the truth. But wouldn't expect anything else when MSNBC is the sole news source for some.

As for disliking my post. Did you really think I care or not. I only pointed it out to show that it proved I had written the truth. And yes I am very proud thank you.

Oh yeah, and have a nice night.

Good post - Sick one you're writing to treating everyone - like their "stupid" & only she has

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answers to EVERYTHING....(ROLL EYES AND SIGH HEAVILY). Thanks for a reasonable post to combat the ridiculousness of the one you are responding to. Sick of the constant condescending lecturing, especially when that poster is clueless and is so rude to other posters.

When I am treated politely, I respond in kind. - sm

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I also respond in kind when I'm treated rudely.

You were the first to start in with rude remarks. Do you remember - "You must be proud"?

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Your post was condescending and rude and in turn that's what you got back, then you felt the need to continue and so you got back more of the same.

Look, here's the thing. We share a difference of opinion. You believe one thing I believe another. You think I'm wrong and I know your wrong. Nothing either of us will say will change the others mind. I particularly don't like the lies that were said about Romney and Ryan or the statement listening to what I heard on MSNBC "word for word" and then lied to that it was said by Romney and Ryan when it wasn't.

So don't begin it by treating me (and others) rude and stupid and I won't give you back your own medicine.

Sounds like a fair deal to me.

I resented the rude remark by Sarge who thinks - sm

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I don't have the ability to think for myself and has judged me having heard it from someone.

Most of your posts are very judgmental when you don't even know who I am or what my circumstances are or what I watch or don't watch on TV -- ALL of which you are ignorant about.

There was ONE sensible person who commented that I was weighing my options, and she's the only one to get it right.

It's creating fiction about an unknown poster that I resent, just like the trailer talk posted above.

There are some very nice people who live in beautiful trailers, but the cons have made it clear that they believe them to be almost less than human. On this board, people again group these people under one insulting and hateful category.

That's the Romney way of doing things.

Again, not one shred of truth in your propaganda. - nm

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ALL YOUR POSTS ARE RIDICULOUSD - AND RUDE

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THANK YOU a hundred times - The Sarge - sm

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Every time I hear someone say "If Romney is elected I'll be out in the street with no insurance". I know this was hear on MSNBC because those are the exact same word my mom said to me (word for word) "If Romney were president I'd be out on the street with no insurance and no Medicare" (then she goes into her hate tirade).

It doesn't matter what someones circumstances are. Romney and republicans are not planning to take away anyone's medicare. It is a liberal scare tactic. About republicans taking everything away from them and giving it to their rich friends. The problem with this is they tried it last election and it didn't work so they are regurgitating the same garbage because they think people are small minded and stupid that they will believe it.

There is no republican who is planning to take away anything Medicare, social security, etc. We got that same garbage before the last republican was elected. Boo hoo if Bush is elected I'll be in the street and he'll take away my health care. Never did and never will happen.

But you are correct. Obama has no plan except to steal if from medicare and pour it into his socialized health care plan.

It HAS to get under control. The democrats have been ignoring that there is a problem with the system. People who need Medicare and 55 and over will continue to receive it under a republican president, but maybe they should start thinking about the rest of the country. It is not fair to the rest of them who are young to pay into a system that if it's not fixed will have nothing. Younger people should be able to have a choice. And not the socialized Obamacare. That is not a choice. You get what they say you get.

Please, please, please posters. I beg of you, please stop listening to the people who are lying to you. They have no interest in telling you the truth. All they care about is getting a democrat re-elected. They don't have the countries best interest in heart because they don't care about anyone but democrats and their richest 1%'er friends, buddies in wall street and CEOs.

It is crucial at this point in time that people stop reading the propaganda and read other things, watch other things. There are literally hundreds of sites and channels. You don't like far right, fine, take your pick of hundreds of others, but please stop listening to the far left who don't have the best interest of the people of this country at heart.

Do yourselves a favor and stop listening to the propaganda machines. At least you'll appear to be a little better informed.

Because of posts like hers I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER (have I said enough evers?) vote for a democrat. NEVER!!! Lies, lies, lies, more lies, hate, fear, and more lies. I will vote my best interest, conscience, and what is best for the country. After all the country is filled with many people. It's not just me, me, me. Think about other people. I want a country that will improve, that unemployement will go down. The best education and health care for its citizens (not just politicians). The democrats have no plans for that. Romney and Ryan do. I feel they will do a better job and we've got to get out of this cliff we've been thrown off of.

They don't know the republicans plan or stances on issues because they don't care. MSNBC doesn't tell them so why should they go look anything up.

Okay, go ahead and slam me now. I'm sick of the lot of people spreading absolute garbage filth lies about republicans with NO FACTS to back it up. Think people, thinks. Stop letting other people do it for you.

Oh yeah, and John McCain isn't running for president either, but Obama seems to have no problems (we went, we saw, he died). Watched in horror what happened to another person and that's just fine and dandy to the liberals because it happened under a democrat. (okay, that last paragraph was not in response to what you wrote but I didn't feel like responding to such a hateful post that the other person wrote).

Sorry to hear about your hospitalization,hope you feel better. - backwards typist

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Don't know why you have so much hate for someone.

Romney will not end Medicare. He does not hate Medicare. They are trying to reign in the costs and reform the program so it's in place for our children and grandchildren. It won't change for anyone 55 or older. Why can't you understand that? I wish you would read their plan.

Whereas, Obama's plan sets up a board that, once all in place, will be able to tell hospitals and insurance companies who they can treat and for how long. Your disease (and I'm really sorry to hear about it) would probably not be covered under his plan forever.

Obama is also rich. Do you hate him? If he wins re-election, you can thank George Soros, Moveon.org, and the SuperPACs, that Obama was so against when he was in the Senate.

I agree we need someone who will treat everyone fairly and that's NOT Obama. He's forever trying to divide us. Just look at us on this board.

Our taxes will increase when Obamacare comes in full force. There's a tax on all medical devices among others which I can't remember off the top of my head right now....but if you like, I'll look up the bill again and get back to you on that.

It's a shame that there are so many people that spew so much hate towards someone, no matter what party. BTW, I worked 2 full time jobs and had 4 clients of my own for years so you're not the only one.

I will not comment on Israel because you don't know what will happen. If Iran gets nukes and bombs Israel, you can bet your bottom dollar we would be next, if not coordinated to be at the same time.

I hope you feel better soon. Depression is a terrible thing.

I resent you labeling me as depressed. - sm

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I'm not depressed, far from it.

My disease is a physical one and is incurable. I'm lucky to still be alive, although I could see my will to live might be lessened if I didn't have either my disability or my Medicare.

I wasn't insinuating that I'm the "only one" who has worked hard, but the point is I DID work that long and paid lots of taxes. You never know when you'll get hit with a diagnosis that will turn your world upside down. I just hope what happened to me doesn't happen to you.

I meant it in the kindest way. It's not unusual for anyone - backwards typist

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to be depressed with an ongoing illnesses. I know I was when I was first diagnosed with cancer. It took me weeks after I came home from the hospital to snap out of it.

"...so much hate for someone" - you meant this in the kindest way?

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not the kind poster to whom you were responding, but I just had to say - that was quite a punchline you delivered after the sympathetic-sounding title of your post.

Not BT, but that's not what she said - sm

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Here, let me recap. I'll even copy and paste so there is no misunderstanding:

BT: "I hope you feel better soon. Depression is a terrible thing."

sm: "I resent you labeling me as depressed".

BT: "I meant it in the kindest way. It's not unusual for anyone to be depressed with an ongoing illnesses".

Don't know about you but feeling bad for someone who has depression and saying so is an act of kindness.

Wanna try again?

I agree, and I am sorry the OP has been ill, but - it is SHE coming across as the hateful one.nm

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No, I felt it was a condescending way of saying - sm

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I'm not in my right mind to hold the political views on the issue of healthcare in what is supposed to be the richest country in the world.

I wasn't being hateful. I just resented being treated as if I'm some hysterical woman who is losing it, like in the old days (which the Pubs would like to bring back) when a patronizing physician might tell a young female patient to not worry her pretty little head off because there's nothing wrong, during which time she's walking around with a marble sized tumor in her breast.

I'm not depressed. I am just very, VERY afraid that a Romney presidency will finally bring about the "Rapture" that so many right wingnuts want so much and that it will be a self-fulfilled prophecy, while all the fat cats are safe in their underground premises that the "average" peon can't afford to purchase.

I believe Romney and Ryan are ready to nuke Iran, which in turn will spur on a spiraling effect until all the "lesser" of us die but the "richer" of us will be able to survive.

Oh please - sm

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Nobody said you were not in your right mind to hold political views. What they said was you are listening to the wrong people because everything you wrote is what they have been saying - word-for-word.

One of your statements also proves you are listening to the crowd at MSNBC and not reading or listening to anything the republicans are saying is the statement about pubs wanting to bring us back to the old days. That is not true at all. I've read their plans. I've listened to both side argue good and bad about issues. No where in anything that is Romney or Ryans plan would it bring us back to the old days. But if democrats stay in we are heading backwards. Just look at all that is happening. When you have idiot politicians trying to scare people that if you vote for a republican he's planning to put the entire race of African-American back in chains like their forefather you have to realize they are dragging the country back to the 60s. The democrats have no ideas. New ideas even their campaign for this election is the same one they had last time. Shows you how stupid they think people are as if they won't notice. Because of the liberals our economy is getting worse. Unemployment is on the rise, etc, etc. It is the democrats who are taking us back in time.

Don't know what part of the country you are in, but nowhere that I know if did any doctor tell a female patient "don't worry your pretty little head off". That is only in movies and people need to learn how to distinguish between movies and reality. Doctors have always and WILL always treat female patients no different then male patients. They understand how important their health is to them.

There is nothing to be afraid of about a Romney presidency. In fact pretty sure you will be pleasantly surprised. You'll find more people starting to get jobs back, individualized health care will continue on. We will finally have someone working on fixing Medicare, etc, giving the citizens a choice for a change. We'll have a budget. We'll have a president that it interested in attending meetings he should be in, trying to work toward improving our economy so we can get out of the mess the liberals are continuing on. There will be no "rapture". Nobody can predict what the "fat cats" will do. Probably the same thing they've always been doing under both republican AND democrat rule. If you are talking about the underground "bunkers" I've been reading about, you need to include democrats too because they are also purchasing them not caring about us "peons". In fact I did just read an article (can't remember where because I've been swamped with work, so it was in passing and not sure I could find it again), but I read that one of the leaders of the country told Romney that when he gets in he better fix the economy because it's affecting their country too. When our economy suffers so do other countries. We are all connected in some way.

One of your key words I'd like to say though is your statement about "supposed to be the richest country in the world". That is no longer true. I've heard that statement since I was a little girl (some 50-odd years ago). We are no longer the richest country in the world. We've just been downgraded thanks to the liberals.

Romney and Ryan are not ready to "nuke Iran". They said that about the last republican too and it didn't happen, but situations need to get under control. All countries should we working together. We all live on this same planet. One country cannot have control over the others (including us) everyone needs to live in Harmony to save the planet. And if the end of the world happens and we are all sucked into the middle of the earth by an earthquake or a tidal wave comes in wiping out the coast or the earth loses it's gravity it's not going to be because we will have a republican president. Pretty sure if the rapture happens it is not concerned about whether there is a republican or democrat president of our country.

No republican in history has ever thrown us back in history. The country has always moved forward. No republican president in history has ever taken away Medicare or Social Security from the elderly. And no republican president has ever brought on the rapture no matter how many times the liberals tried to scare people with that. Never has and never will happen.

All I know is this. If our country has any chance of survival its not with the democrats in power. Because of their decisions our country is going broke and we were just downgraded.

You are way off base and probably a male if...sm - VTMT

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you think that "doctors have always and WILL always treat female patients no different then male patients." It is a documented fact that female complaints are taken less seriously than male complaints in all fields, most notably cardiology.

before condescending, make sure you're right - sm

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Title of post: Sorry to hear about your hospitalization,hope you feel better. -

First line: Don't know why you have so much hate for someone.

I was right. Read my message again - It's pretty clear - nm

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nm is needed.

mmm. nope. - ...

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Your copy and paste actually excludes the statement I was talking about. Somehow, I am not surprised by your willingness to supply YOUR context for MY opinion. There's a lot of that going around.

You have it all wrong. Obamacare is already - hurting Medicare...and will continue.nm

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Now that sounds like a Republican talking point. - sm

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It took Bush 8 years to go from a surplus to a tremendous deficit, including two wars that were NOT FUNDED or included in the budget.

WRONG on all counts. I work in a doctor's office. - Obamacare is already affecting Medicare,

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cuts to doctor pay, and many doctors are limiting or refusing to see Medicare patients. This is a fact! ... you are denying it, but it is true.

My doctor's lab tech told me he had to stop - (sm)

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seeing new Medicare patients. For now he is only seeing the ones who have supplements. The rest he dropped. He dropped Medicare Advantage as well. She says for the paltry amount Medicare pays, then with a 30% cut coming in January on top of it, he just can't afford it.

You can list 1000 stories supporting Obamacare damage:; - and they refuse to believe it

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I've seen the same thing where I live and it is only getting worse. Until it hits them psersonally, they will not get it..some will not get it ever because they are so blinded by their ideology.

Please explain in detail...sm - JTBB

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exactly how Obamacare is hurting Medicare.

Now there's a class assignment for you - Jess

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Make sure your answer is in detail. ;)

Thanks for the laugh Jess - I was thinking exactly the same - but you got there before me :)

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Yeah - Getting right on that order from you know you....bossy little thaing aint she??

Most orders don't start with the word "please." sm - JTBB

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If a poster is going to make such a claim as that above in an effort to sway someone's opinion, don't you think they should be able to back up that claim with some facts?

The problem you guys have is that you can't back up anything because you don't have the facts, or if you do, you are simply ignoring them.

They're listening to Romney berate Obama. - sm

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As far as not being able to back up anything because they don't have the facts, they can't possibly have the facts because Romney/Ryan are running a fact-free campaign.

It looks like America may be sold to the highest bidder, perhaps maybe even to a foreign country who shouldn't be able to donate to USA political elections.

Nonsense. Obama and we Dems are committed - to healthcare for EVERYONE. NM

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Right. This is where your choice could literally mean - lilfe and death for you. Get it right. NM

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"We dems". You say it like you have something (sm) - Texan

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to say about it. You are being fed information from Obama and the Congress people who won't have to have the Obamacare. They have their cadillac plans for life. So do the union thugs, the Obama pals. They don't have to worry either - they got waivers. If this insurance is so damn wonderful, why don't they want it? Please think for yourself. Don't believe everything that they are telling you. "We Dems." If that wasn't so sad, it would almost be funny.

Good point! Obamacare is so great that waivers - are given out to tons of businesses.nm

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The Republicans want to repeal it immediately, just - sm

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in case Americans LIKE it and then won't be able to take it away.

If it's repealed, there will never be another plan in place for healthcare. The Republicans never thought it was important before and now they're terrified that Obama will have done something it took 90 years of empty promises to achieve.

And the Obama Reachy/Stretchy show - Post time 10:11pm

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Exactly! Post "liked" very much. - nm

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I guess you didn't understand what he said. - It won't affect those over 55 (sm)

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Are you at all worried about whether your children will have Medicare? It is going broke you know. After I read your first sentence, I couldn't even read the rest because I knew it would be full of Democrat Drivel.

They don't want truth. Facts blow the scare tactic - clean out of the water, then they

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are left with nothing but their shattered ideology.

And yet you responded to a post you didn't read. Hmm... - nm

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Mudslingers on both sides - Bella

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It is an inflexible view such as yours that causes a lot of rhetoric on this board and in discussions across America. You spew forth this angry rant about Romney and Republicans, advising us not to listen to the mudslingers, saying he is bowing down to the Tea Party. What about the liberal media bowing down to Obama? He can do no wrong and practically walks on water. He apologizes to the entire world on our behalf when something goes wrong.

I am a Republican, but I have many liberal friends. I watch many news outlets, including MSNBC, the most liberal organization of all, because I like to hear both sides of an issue. I have friends and family who will be voting for Obama, but that doesn't mean I yell at them, type to them in ALL CAPS to show how angry I am. You have your right to free speech like everyone else, but your inflammatory remarks and one-sided view makes you sound like you're on the fringe yourself.

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