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I'm pretty sure my message got lost so I'm posting it here on the violence against dems


Posted: Mar 25, 2010

My search on violence against republicans had duplicate articles, but the 2 that pop up most often in mine is the Huffington Post who told Obama to "break the kneecaps of the pubs" , Roland Martin of CNN who told O to go "gansta against the pubs", among others. Just for your info, the dems chose violence against the 'pubs ever since the [pub] party began back in the 1860s-18702. 

Are we pushing the Eric Cantor one under the rug, too?

Here is one you have to read. I did not see or heare this before:

Left-Wing Violence Against Cops and Republicans — That's Unpossible!   [Mark Hemingway]

Funny, with all this talk of the alleged threat of political violence in the health-care debate coming from the right, the national media has been strangley silent about this story:

A 23-year-old man from Austin, Texas, who was connected to a group that planned to disrupt the Republican National Convention (RNC) in September 2008, was sentenced today in federal court to possessing destructive devices. On May 14, in Minneapolis, U.S. District Court Chief Judge Michael Davis sentenced Bradley Neal Crowder to 24 months in prison and three years of supervised release on one count of possession of a destructive device. Crowder was indicted on Sept. 22, 2008,
and pleaded guilty on Jan. 8, 2009.

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According to trial testimony, McKay and Crowder, angered by the loss of the shields, purchased supplies for constructing Molotov cocktails at a St. Paul Wal-Mart on Aug. 31, including a gas can, motor oil and tampons. They also purchased gasoline at a gas station. They then manufactured the eight Molotov cocktails at an apartment on Dayton Avenue where they were staying.

During a FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force investigation, authorities learned through an informant that McKay and Crowder had manufactured the Molotov cocktails. Crowder was arrested on Sept. 1 for disorderly conduct during an RNC demonstration.

During a conversation overheard by law enforcement through electronic surveillance on Sept. 2, McKay told an informant that he intended to throw the Molotov cocktails at police vehicles parked in a lot near the Dayton Avenue apartment.

Oh and there's this related nugget:

A Texas woman faces trial this month in Austin on charges she threatened to kill a government informant who infiltrated an Austin-based group that planned to bomb the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., last fall.

 

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Retoric and so-called "metaphors" have been ...sm - oldtimer

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over-the-top on both sides. So called educated and intelligent members of both parties should realize that many of their comments are taken literally by the less educated who have already been whipped into a frenzy of fear.

True that. - nm

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Bingo! But the language lingo has been around for umpteen - Backwards Typist

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years, and a slip of the tongue and/or a stupid remark made by someone doesn't make it so and both parties should realize that...but what they DON'T realize is how some people hang onto their very words as truth.

It's a very different world since the internet. Too many nutcakes blogging in the past few years and, in reality, some sites should be taken down because of inciting people to do just what they're doing.

Here is one crucial difference... - Do you see any

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Dems defending this behavior? Does this group (organization to disrupt the republican convention, others) have a name, that Dems recognize and consider to be a branch of the democratic party? Such as the Tea Party is to the Pubs? These cases seem pretty random, and I don't think many, at least on this board, would defend it.

As for the Huffington Post, well... there's no accounting for taste. And not defending what was said by them, but those seem to be more figurative and indirect remarks, as opposed to a specific threat or bigoted remark.

JMHO.

I get it now. It's okay for some to use the terminology figuratively - Backwards Typist

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in some cases, but not in others? That's what you seem to be saying; i.e., it's okay to say "Kill Bush" because it's just a figure of speech, but not okay to say "Kill Obama, Kill Stupak," etc., etc?

Do you see the point I'm trying to make?

Yes I do. See my post above. nm - oldtimer

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Hold up there, - pal...

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I never said it was okay. That, in fact, was one of the differences I pointed out. "Kill Bush" isn't going on right now, the healthcare stuff is.

Here's a surprising little tidbit: When Bush was pres, I actually defended him to people who made fun of him! And I'm about as far from the right as one can get.

Also, when I said "figuratively" I was referring to the statements you quoted from Huffington, hence the separate paragraph.

"Kill" couldn't really be classified as figurative...at least not in that context; i.e., "Kill _____."

What? Most dems are too busy accusing everyone - else,even when there is dem on dem violence!.nm

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Here is Russ Carnahan - sm

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http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/03/25/coward-russ-carnahan-pushes-bogus-tea-party-lie-to-media-claims-prayer-service-with-coffin-was-a-violent-threat/

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