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Gun and video game companies are promoting


Posted: Dec 25, 2012

From the N.Y. Times:

"As Electronic Arts prepared to market Medal of Honor Warfighter, the latest version of its top-selling video game released in October, it created a Web site that promoted the manufacturers of the guns, knives and combat-style gear depicted in the game.

Among the video game giant’s marketing partners on the Web site were the McMillan Group, the maker of a high-powered sniper’s rifle, andMagpul, which sells high-capacity magazines and other accessories for assault-style weapons.

Links on the Medal of Honor site allowed visitors to click through on the Web sites of the game’s partners and peruse their catalogs.

“It was almost like a virtual showroom for guns,” said Ryan Smith, who contributes to the Gameological Society, an online gaming magazine. After Mr. Smith and other gaming enthusiasts criticized the site, Electronic Arts disabled the links, saying it had been unaware of them.

The video game industry was drawn into the national debate about gun violence last week when the National Rifle Association accused producers of violent games and movies of helping to incite the type of mass shooting that recently left 20 children and six adults dead at a school in Newtown, Conn.

While studies have found no connection between video games and gun violence, the case of Medal of Honor Warfighter illustrates how the firearms and video game industries have quietly forged a mutually beneficial marketing relationship. "

"Many of the same producers of firearms and related equipment are also financial backers of the N.R.A. "

"In the case of the recent promotional Web site for partners of Medal of Honor Warfighter, a spokesman for Electronic Arts said it took action after it discovered that gamers could click through to its partners’ sites.

“We felt it was inappropriate and took the links down,” said Jeff Brown, a spokesman for Electronic Arts, in an e-mail.

But Mr. Smith, the gaming enthusiast who wrote about the links, said the company had not gone far enough. Mr. Smith said the direct link is gone, but visitors to the site can still search for a gun and “take a few extra steps to buy it.”

“I personally think they should not have real weapons in the games in the first place,” he said. “It’s just bad to link things you can do in a game with tools of death you can use in real life.”

Whole article at link below.

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While I'm a nerd and love video games - Fanatical Hypocrite

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I'm also against connecting real guns to video games. Admittedly, I'm against all forms of corporate synergy. I don't care whether its Mountain Dew and the latest movie, or Nascar and every product known to man. Commercialism has gone too far in general. But for ATF (alcohol, tobacco and firearms) I don't think they should be allowed to advertise their product on anything a child or teen might be playing, watching, reading, etc. Maybe not even advertise at all. I know where they keep the various poisons and killing implements reserved for mature adults. Ironically, products that directly lead to death and carnage are considered signs of maturity.

But again, I support removing gun ads from all products viewed by children and teens, not just games. Guns in games, even if based on the design of a real gun, should be a generic with no brand affiliation. It's bad enough that everything we do and see is trying to sell us something, it might as well be a product that doesn't kill the customer or random people.

I don't feel that this will directly contribute to lowering crime because I don't feel that video games contribute to real life violence anymore than any other form of media, but the gun companies make enough money without tasteless pandering.

Totally agree. And, yes, it's not "the" fix. But it is - part of preserving civilization in society. nm

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Agreed until you said - -

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"the gun companies make enough money." That's not your call. Who has the right to tell someone or some business in this country that they make "enough" money? Where's the criteria for how much is enough?

If they're in the black? - grits

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I read that in the sense that they're doing well for themselves. Your read seems like a stretch to me.

So, as long as they're making money - that's "enough?"
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Or as long as they're not losing money? Again, not your or anyone's call.
Well, yeah - grits
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e·nough
/iˈnəf/

Adjective
As much or as many as required.

Adverb
To the required degree or extent (used after an adjective, adverb, or verb); adequately: "old enough to shave."

...what were we arguing about again? Oh, yeah, semantics. "Enough" is subjective, so we can go round and round all day.

I was mainly talking about this specific case - Fanatical Hypocrite

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We all know there are guns. We can all find a gun store if we need to. We could then purchase these guns. That's our right as American adults. My comment was mainly to the effect that the gun companies, with the dangerous nature of their product, shouldn't be allowed to advertise their product. None of us are likely to forget you can buy guns in this country even if we never see another ad again. I wasn't suggesting we nationalize their companies and make them work in the gulags:)

However, why can't we decide who's made enough money? I'm not talking about government intervention for people who have "too much money." I'm talking about free market choice not to make any one company too big to fail ever again. I generally don't shop at Wal-mart because they are too big. They have too much money and power and they have proven that they are reckless and dangerous with that power.

I would never make someone else not shop somewhere because I don't like the company or think they are too powerful, but as a consumer I want to choose, as much as I can, what I consume. I'd boycott Monsanto too, but then I'd have to give up a significant portion of my genome since they're patenting people now.

As for the criteria of how much is too much? That's for each person to decide. For instance, a giant monopolistic company I support would be Microsoft, but I like their products, they are significantly less evil than Apple in my mind and Bill Gates sends much of his money back down the ladder. That's a personal choice too.

the criteria... - sm

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when an industry lobby calls a press conference at which 1) the press is not allowed to talk and then 2) the lobby itself proceeds to advise on national policy - as if that is their privilege - THAT's how you can tell they have enough money.

Should America entertain healthcare policies advanced by the pharmaceutical lobby? No. One of the many reasons legislators write laws - rather than lobbyists - is to insure that we don't end up with the foxes guarding the henhouse.

You evidently don't remember when cigarette ads were broadcast on TV. As a nation, we put a stop to that form of advertising. We also did that with distilled spirits. There's a reason alcohol, tobacco, and firearms fall under the same umbrella. These products affect public health. They are regulated. They are considered contraband. And you can get in lots of trouble for trafficking in these products.
Very much agree. Except--pharmaceutical companies ARE - writing legislation. Read up on ALEC,
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American Legislative Exchange Council. Industry wants legislation, goes to ALEC and pay a bunch of money to join, industry and ALEC experts write legislation, ALEC and industry invite friendly legislators to lush parties where they are provided with legislation, techniques in getting it passed, and promises of powerful and lucrative support in return.
again, that's the lobby. And no, we don't want that. - nm
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