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Posted: Apr 9, 2017
about to come into effect, and it could sink pizza franchises nationwide. The regulation would require restaurant chains with twenty or more locations to post nutritional information for every item on the menu and every variation of item on the menu. Domino’s executives figured out that there are over 34 million different combinations of toppings for their pizzas. That’s a big sign -- and an expensive one. Domino’s are owned and operated by individual businesspeople, and each new sign could cost as much as $5,000, a crippling sum for restaurants already operating on a shoestring budget. “We did the math,” says Tim McIntyre, an executive at Domino’s and chairman of (not making this up) the American Pizza Community, a thing that exists. “With gluten-free crusts to thick to hand-tossed to pan pizza, multiple sizes, cheeses, toppings . . . there are about 34 million possible combinations.” He does a pretty good deadpan delivery: “That is difficult to put on a menu.” That’s going to be a big sign. National Review ;
Half the truth is better than the full truth - Whatever
[ In Reply To ..]Restaurant prices have already gone up where I live due to the minimum wage increase in my state. Several fast food chains currently post nutritional information for items on the menu but it has nothing to do with the ACA, this is either voluntary or it is under another government agency. There are not 34 million pizza toppings. This was published in the National Review so consider the source and don't take it too seriously.
Additional note - Whatever
[ In Reply To ..]I looked this up out of curiosity. The article (several sources) was first published in 2012, as far as I know, Dominos is non-compliant and if it were required by law they would have done so long ago. They use certain ingredients in their crusts and only have a certain number of toppings, which is all they would need to disclose. Triple cheese, double anchovies, etc. is how they come up with so many different combinations. The National Review was not the original source for this, and it's very old news.
The article is old but the implementation of the law isn't. - I looked it up too and I appreciate
[ In Reply To ..]someone letting me know because I had no idea.
Obamacare's absurd food labeling law to begin soon. - If I were to point to anything in the ironically
[ In Reply To ..]named Affordable Care Act as being its most stupid regulation, I have little doubt that you could manage to find to something even more ridiculous in it. Such is the nature of the worst piece of legislation in recent history.
However, another rule is set to take effect soon that might just take the cake. Or pizza, in this case:
The nation’s franchise restaurants are about one month away from the imposition of new nutritional-labeling rules dreamed up by the Obama administration, another gift of the grievously misnamed Affordable Care Act. For outlets of brands with 20 or more locations, that means posting signs in the shop with calorie counts for every item on the menu and for every variation on that item. That’s probably not such a big deal if you are, say, Raising Cane’s, and your menu ranges from one chicken finger to 100 chicken fingers. It’s a little different if you are a pizza shop, because pizza has a lot of variables.
A lot.
“We did the math,” says Tim McIntyre, an executive at Domino’s and chairman of (not making this up) the American Pizza Community, a thing that exists. “With gluten-free crusts to thick to hand-tossed to pan pizza, multiple sizes, cheeses, toppings ... there are about 34 million possible combinations.” He does a pretty good deadpan delivery: “That is difficult to put on a menu.”
That’s going to be a big sign.
Pretty stupid, right?
However, as they say on TV: but wait -- there's more.
The law requires these listings to be inside the store. The problem is, places like Domino's and other pizza delivery places get the vast majority of their orders either online or via phone calls to the store. Remarkably few people enter a store, look at a menu, and order.
That means companies will be spending a lot of money on signs -- money that won't go toward employee pay or benefits -- that will never be seen by the majority of customers.
Dominos - Whatever
[ In Reply To ..]I think there is probably more to this story than you are telling and I don't know if I understand why you chose to use Dominos as an example. Many fast food franchises currently post nutritional information on their web sites (Wendy's, McDonald's, Pizza Hut and others), it's already being done. All restaurants will provide nutritional information on request, I don't know if this is the same thing you are referring to, but I think if it is made available to customers either on line or per request it does not have to be posted in the establishment. We have labels on groceries, do you think that's a bad thing? We have 2 Dominos stores. I've never eaten their pizza but I've heard stories. Yes, I think it's even too stupid for discussion.
It is the FDA, not the ACA - In addition
[ In Reply To ..]FYI
One thing that European (at least German) restaurants - did pre-EU was post a menu outside
[ In Reply To ..]the restaurant, usually right at the entrance. The idea was to avoid embarrassment on the part of the customer. Anyway I thought it was an interesting contrast, because all them edumacated folks are always telling us how “we need to be more like Europe.”
This is something that Pres. Trump and co., should $chi+kan, all it does is raise the cost of food for everyone, more regulatory nanny state BS that nobody will pay attention to. I suppose, somewhere, this information should be made available to those who request it.
I suggest handing them a copy of Dept. of Agriculture Handbook #8, it has the food value and nutritional information of all common foods.
Point being, this $&@!! has to stop. It’s just nonsense at every level.
Seriously? Many restaurants all over...sm - VTMT
[ In Reply To ..]The world, including the U.S. post their menus outside.
The Dems are not interested in nutritional values or they would tie - food stamp use to only health foods.
[ In Reply To ..]No soda, chips or other empty calorie items.
Does that also include the republicans on - food stamps?
[ In Reply To ..]Last I knew food stamps are used by people, not political party.
Should be anyone on foodstamps - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Restrictions on what people can buy with food stamps should be federally mandated. I understand it is to a point, however, limiting junk food, soda, etc. is reasonable.
But, yeah, being on food stamps has nothing to do with political party and it's absurd to even think it does. Everyone's situation is different. Yeah, welfare bums exist, but I think it's reasonable to believe that most who use food stamps need them and they're not dead beats.
Just wondering because you said dems would - tie food stamps to only healthy food
[ In Reply To ..]I misunderstood what you were saying. But, since you say the dems should tie it together, maybe you should look who has the house, senate and white house for your question, who would be republicans. I'm seriously not saying you are wrong on that because food stamps should be buying nutritional foods (I think they used to be) but you need to write your representatives about that and most of them are republican.
The food stamp program is administered by the agriculture - department. Did you know that over 80% of their
[ In Reply To ..]budget goes to food stamps? I know this because my son-in-law is a farmer.
Every time the republicans try to change anything about this program, the democrats scream foul.
2% of budget spent on Food Stamps, 19% on defense - sm
[ In Reply To ..]that was 2012. It will probably even less for SNAP under Trump and a lot more under Trump for the military.
Those overpaid MTs need to go on a diet anyway. (that is an example of satire for those not understanding).
Dems meaning Democrats in Washington. - Geez.
[ In Reply To ..]xx
Is there a particular reason you are blaming Democrats for this? - sm
[ In Reply To ..]When I was a kid during the Nixon years and a young adult during the Reagan years, I always wondered this. I wondered it during the intervening democrat administrations, too.
If you have low-income people living in areas where there are few supermarkets but lots of convenience stores stocked with General Mills, Kellogg's, Nabisco, Nestle, Frito-Lay Kraft, Coke, Pepsi, who do you think gets the money?
Baloney (69 calories) - sm
[ In Reply To ..]The National Review is fibbing. There is no requirement that "every variation" on a menu have a sign displayed. Dominos et. al. are having a field day with this. ALL large menus have many permutations of variations. There is no such requirement that each be labeled individually.
The rules apply to "standard" menu items, and in the case that there are variations in menu items (i.e. soft drinks, flavors, toppings and combination meals), the Secretary of Health and Human Services will establish standards to account for these differences.
Do you really think that there's going to be separate signs for pizza with coke, pizza with milk? Pizza with onions, pizza with onions, hold the sauce?
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