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Can someone tell me how to just stop caring? Just turn it off like a water faucet?


Posted: Jun 17, 2016

I was married for 20 years to the most selfish man.  He was active duty Army when I met him.  After being married for five or so years, he was discharged from active duty and basically hasn't worked since.  He would go to school for this or that.  He would get a job and get fired.  He is an alcoholic and diagnosed bipolar.  I quickly realized that I had become his mother and not his wife.  I was taking care of him like I took care of my children.  So four years ago I kicked him out and filed for divorce.  He was devastated.  He cried, begged, and threatened suicide to get me to stay.  The divorce left me emotionally drained, feeling bitter and filled with anger.  He was a master manipulator to the bitter end, although it hasn't ended.  Because of our kids, he is still in my life, floating around the periphery.  Our daughter is 15 and while she knows what her father is, she also sees glimpses of the funny dad she loves when he is sober.  So I have tried to be tolerant and distantly friendly with him, but he sees these moments as opportunities to work on me.  I hate him, but at the same time I also feel pity and deep sadness for him.  I hate for my kids to see their father this way.  He lives in a rundown shack of a house.  He does not have job nor does he ever look for a job.  He just scrapes together money by doing drug studies or selling stuff  which he promptly spends on alcohol.  He does not own a car.  I have told him to apply for disability because I believe he does not possess the mental capacity anymore to hold any kind of meaningful employment.  Every piece of advice I give him is answered with you "I can't do it alone.  You have to help me.  I have no one."  His father died a couple of years ago and his mother has been gone for a while.  He has a brother who is in prison.  So he is constantly telling me that all he has is me.  He has asked me to "help him" buy him a car so he can "get a job" which he's been promising to do for 20 years!  He has asked me to let him borrow my car.  He texts me telling me he loves me and needs me.  The last week or so it has gotten really hot in our part of the country, nearly 100 degrees and he will not turn on his air conditioner.  So my kids drive by his house and see his windows open and call me because they are worried about their father!  When I told him I would not help him buy a car nor could he borrow mine, he went on a three day drinking binge and when he was out of booze and sobered up, he showed up at my son's house agitated, anxious, pacing the floors, and crying.  Then he started throwing up coffee-ground emesis and refused to go to the ER.  He left and called my son the next day saying he was okay and not to worry.

I've asked him to leave our kids alone.  Don't let our kids see him like this.  I guess I feel like the only way to protect my kids from this is to deal with him myself, but then that puts me right back into the middle of his crap.  I just wish I could be cold and unfeeling.  Just say I don't care.  I don't care if he has a heat stroke or drinks himself to death.  I don't care if he's passed out in his front yard or throwing up blood.  And sometimes, I can put it out of mind and I will block his number.  But it always creeps back in and I find myself upset and worried all of the time.  Worried for my kids, worried for that inevitable phone call saying something has happened to him.  I just can't turn it off!  I can't NOT care.  I feel like I have to worry about him so my kids don't have to.  It's my fault that he's their dad.  It's my fault that they have had to be affected by him.  So to protect them, I need to take care of him.  But I don't want to feel this way.  I want to be able to say you're on your own and leave me and the kids alone, although I know he won't.  I wish there was a pill I could take that would make me not care.  Mostly I just wish he would just go away.

I just really needed to vent more than anything else.  So there it is my anonymous vent. 

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Not your fault - Backwoods Typist

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I am sorry that you are going through and feeling what you are. How things are is not your fault. He probably hid his issues pretty well when you two met and started dating. Living life with someone who is bipolar is very trying, if not impossible, especially because they have this thing where they may seem to do well for awhile, but then will decompensate. You may indeed be all he has, at least in his eyes, but unless he is willing to do something to help himself, nothing will change. He is too set in his ways at his age.

It may be that you can make an anonymous call to a social worker or somehow get him to psychiatric help, because ultimately, that is part of the puzzle to some kind of help. The alcohol is exacerbating his bipolar, along with what is left of his judgment. If he is unwilling to do this, then ultimately he has signed his own death certificate. A social worker, along with physicians, can help him apply for disability along with finding other resources that he may benefit from, such as housing. Hopefully its not too late, but from your description of coffee-ground emesis, it sounds like he has advanced stages of alcohol addiction, which probably means his liver is not in a good state and he has varices, which may rupture and he bleed to death if not taken care of. But if he is not willing to get help, then he has to deal with the consequences, as sad as it is...for everybody.

The reason you can't "turn it off" about caring is the children, and the fact that you did love him at some point. Our loves always hold a special place with us regardless. You dislike him, but wish nothing bad to happen to him. The way he is is toxic and not good for the kids. Has a talk been had with them about their father? If not, one may be in order so that they understand that their father is sick, as in his mental capacity is not normal, and that his current state is not their fault. Give them an open platform to be honest and open about their feelings about their dad. Of course they will care something about him. In some ways, their innocence is still there and they are still naive to the way things can really be.

I have alcoholics in my family as well and one of my cousins actually lost her dad to alcohol addiction. He got sick, went to the doctor. The doctor told him if he had just one more drink, it would completely kill his liver, then he would be on dialysis or die. As much as he tried, the addiction was just too great. He had that one more drink. You can guess the rest. I know the frustration of living with someone with an alcohol issue. Maybe talking with a counselor, your doctor or even AA would give you some resources to dealing with your current situation. My heart truly goes out to you. Keep us updated on how things go. Love and hugs.

You need counseling. - In your own words.

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You have been his mother more than anything else, taking care of him. That is not your job. I understand all the responsibility that you feel and the fact that this is the father of your children, but he is a grown man... a grown man with some serious problems that you can not fix. If anything, the more you help him, the worse his dependence becomes on you. This is certainly not healthy for you or the kids. Please get some counseling and try to look at this from a different perspective. You need to let go of this for your own sanity and to live a healthier emotional life. I think you feel a sense of guilt somehow, which makes you feel that responsibility you talk about and the fact that it is your fault this is your kids' dad. Fault is the word that gives you away. It implies guilt. Guilt serves absolutely no purpose, especially when it is not warranted in the first place.

You cannot change a thing to help this situation. Until he wants to make a change for the better for himself and his children, nothing you do is going to have any kind of long term effect. He may end up sick, dead, institutionalized. This is not your FAULT. I appreciate you caring, anyone would, but you have to stop "helping him." Tell him this. Tell him the burden he has placed on you and that he has to stop. Have a counselor help you turn off that faucet with a sense of strength, and you really have to stop trying to hide anything from your kids. They know. They also know it is not your fault or your responsibility. Thankfully, they have you. As the other poster said, be honest with them, leave the door open for them to be honest with you when they need to.

I do wish you and your kids the very best. Good luck to you, and by all means, take care of yourself for a while.

"your're dead to me" - Kevin O'Leary

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Your job is done. has been done.

Get counseling and FINALLY move on.

Alanon Family/Alateen - go there

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I agree with the others here. You need to separate yourself from the problem, and so do your children. The above named groups can help you all to deal with the problem at hand and mostly to help yourselves with the guilt and blame. It is a form of counseling from others who have been or are in the same situation. You need that support group, and it will help you to understand him, and where you fit into his life.

my ex-husband was a bipolar alcoholic, although at that time, we did not realize there was a name for it, but the interaction was pretty much the same, except throw in a violent temper, as well. I had three sons with him before I finally got out. 10 years ago this weekend, my son's father took his own life. My sons were devastated, and still are to this day. They do not understand his illness. They just miss their dad. Get help for yourselves, all of you, before death intervenes and your children are left grasping for answers. If you start help now, losing their father may be easier in the long run, because they will have some semblance of understanding. I wish you and your entire family the best of luck, and peace in your lives!

or CoDA (Codependents Anonymous) - Me

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Clearly there is codependency here. IME CoDA is a better group, but of course this varies with venue.

Good luck to you! I wish you the very best, OP.

Alcoholism is such a hard problem to deal with (sm) - LM

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We are going through this in my family right now, and it's heartbreaking. The only advice I can offer you and probably the BEST advice is like the posters said, either Al-Anon, ACA, or CODA. I have gone to all of them at different points in my life (including AA) because my family is rampant with alcoholics. You must find a way to detach, and realize the problems you have control over and those that you don't. They will help you to do that. I wish you well.

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