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Posted: Sep 19, 2014
anyone know if it is true they still pay people to move to Alaska?
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I do not know if they pay people to move to Alaska, however - once there for a period of time you are paid
[ In Reply To ..]from $300 and something to over $2,000 per person each year including each child. This is from the Alaska Permanent Fund that came about after oil was found and the pipeline was completed. Having said that, have been to Alaska twice and no way would I want to live there, too rugged. Lot of the people not only hunt but dress and kill their food themselves. If I were a pioneer might be okay but I like things around, like a grocery store if I need something and not have to wait until summer to restock the pantry.
LOL - Laura
[ In Reply To ..]I've been to Alaska too and I am absolutely certain that I saw grocery stores. It is absolutely beautiful in Alaska and the temps are not unlike what the northern states in the Midwest get in the winter - they just don't often get the 90s (correct me if I'm wrong) that states like North Dakota, Minnesota and Montana get sometimes in the summer.
Well, of course they would have grocery stores - but would you live that close to one?
[ In Reply To ..]I wrote before about going to Denali Park. I was on a tour with 3 people who were on a gluten free diet. We were going to be in Denali for 3 days. The tour guide told the people (on the diet) before arriving to get whatever needed prior to arriving because Denali might have a little store (mostly tourists there, everything closing usually in winter due to the severity of the winter) and might have a tomato or 2 but none of the varied items they might need. Met guy who lives in Denali who had won the Iditarod several times. He told of having to clear trees that fall over his road in the winter just to get out in the spring. The restaurants there close, all personnel leaving because of the weather. Alaska is beautiful, been there twice but so rugged but hey, if that is what you like go for it. Alaska did hit some 90s this past summer, everyone having climate changes. Again, so many people there hunt, clean and eat the food they catch. Most everywhere I travel I talk with people who live there. Love to find out others points of view. The majority of people I talked with very self sufficient and wanting to so call "rough it" in terms of food and living conditions.
AK - susan5
[ In Reply To ..]This sound perfect for my family, $2000 per child! Also, the opportunity to get out and kill animals. Great match for my family.
Yay, kill animals! - Really
[ In Reply To ..]There are jobs in slaughterhouses if that if your life's goal.
Good Friend - Babs
[ In Reply To ..]Have a good friend who has lived in Anchorage for 23 years. Anchorage has everything she needs, including a Carrs (?) grocery chain; they are like Wegman's in Massachusetts.
I actually was in the Yukon in the 1970s, helping people with their mining experiences. I wanted to write a book but words escape me at this time (and people did not seem into being interviewed). Bloody cold there...COLD.
Anchorage is not all dark in the winter; only northern Alaska is like that. However, the 'dimming' sun at this time of year (September) is depressing and special lights are worn on hat brims (or wherever) to counter-act this ordeal.
Alaska is great to move to if you are young and crave adventure...moving in your 40s and upward would be a challenge...but some have done it.
Anchorage would probably be your best bet (Juneau has a good deal of poverty and is not as cosmopolitan as Anchorage). Many who moved in the 60s stayed and love it...raised children and grew their own food.
Matter of choice...
Beautiful place to visit, lots of depression, - alcoholics, mental health issues
[ In Reply To ..]going on than any other state. I remember seeing the cars with what looked to be car cables hanging out from the front (they use those to hook the cars up in the garage to heat up in the winter, if not the oil clogs and unable to start the car in the morning). The money each person receives varies each year, you do not always get $2,000 each and I think very little compared to your living situation. Being an animal lover, can think of nothing more distasteful than killing animals for the pleasure of being able to do so. So much poverty there any moose,deer, anything edible if accidentally killed on the roads, you call the authorities to let them know and they come out to gather the game. If you don't they consider that as a crime and you can be charged for letting so called food go to waste. Never got as far as the Yukon, but was only 120 something miles from the North pole when at the pipeline one day. Saw almost no animals the 2nd time I was there, 1 moose and 1 bear out in the open whereas the first time eagles all over the tops of the trees, moose and grizzle bears out in the park, 1 lone wolf in Denali but the scenery is drop dead gorgeous. Like the tropicals, love to visit but not to live there.
Wasn't Wasilla the meth capital of Alaska - Meth is a scourge
[ In Reply To ..]So add meth addiction to the list.
Charities/hunters' groups - come for the meat
[ In Reply To ..]not "the authorities." Troopers/police come to make out the accident report.
It's not a matter of poverty, either--it's a matter of not letting food go to waste.
Wish people didn't aspire to litigation as a way of life. I live an a rural-ish area. Deer get hit all the time. Used to be you could harvest the meat. Now it's illegal--state got fed up w/ being lawsuits filed by people who got sick after letting it rot.
Engine heaters, alcoholism, and - "so-called food"
[ In Reply To ..]Let's correct some inaccurate assumptions.
Your tour guide was a bit off ... Alaska does not have the highest per capita rate of alcohol use ... try New Hampshire. As for alcohol-related deaths, New Mexico exceeds Alaska.
It does not have the highest rate of serious mental illness, either. That honor goes to West Virginia, with a number of other states exceeding Alaska. Utah has the highest rate for persons having any mental illness at a stunning 22.3 percent. Lots of states exceed Alaska there, too.
Engine heaters are necessary in many states. I needed one living in DC.
Game isn't "so called" food; it IS food. People all over the country value it as a necessity. Fishing and hunting is not a luxury sport for most, it is just how you eat.
As for clearing fallen trees, lots of people in any state heat with firewood and fallen trees are how you get it. If it falls on the road, so much the better. You are going to have to drag it to the road anyway to get it home.
Why not see how picky-picky one can be - Tomato, to-mot-to, potato, po-tot-to
[ In Reply To ..]I said when a deer/moose hit on the roads you call the authorities. That is EXACTLY what is done. I did not say THEY took the meat to be harvested but they are called.
Road kill there is SO CALLED food, they certainly use it like that and call it food, not something I would want to eat. If I did not work and had no money to buy something besides road kill, then guess I would be glad to get that. I have a brother-in-law who fishes all the time, for sport, he does not even eat what he catches, invite others to take what they want so I know people who just want to do as a sport. Again, if POOR AND HUNGRY guess I would take road kill or fish.
I did NOT say Alaska only place having the car heater things going on but THEY DO HAVE things like that.
When I talked about the guy in Denali Park who HAD to clean off his road in order to get out in the spring, that is EXACTLY what he had to do, not because he wanted fire wood. Those are HIS words, to clean off in order get out MY driveway. He also said as he aged getting harder and harder to do.
For whatever reason, Alaska is known as a place to "get lost in." Recently a man in town, homeless, trying his best and saying so wanting to get to Alaska. It may not be the "#1" place for the mental illness, alcoholics and drugs but it certaintly is close to the top.
Uhh, not necessarily poor and desperate ... - it is good, healthful food.
[ In Reply To ..]Not everyone who eats wildlife is poor and desperate. It is good, healthful food. Grass-fed, berry-fed, or whatever, it is better than much of the mass-produced garbage sold in stores. It is also a shame to waste something that was killed by accident.
You should eat what you want, but don't make out others to be trash-folk because their lives and preferences differ from yours.
This is road kill..... good healthy you say, still same road kill - and your words, not mine of trash folks
[ In Reply To ..]Anyone who has lived there, been there or knows this road kill goes to underprivileged people, to charities, it is not taken to your local restaurant and sold to diners. No, I don't want to eat something that has been run over, eat what you want but that turns my stomach just to think of the possibilities, bugs, ants, lizards, ugh!
Might be cleaner than much of what goes - through slaughterhouses
[ In Reply To ..]Lizards? Really? In Alaska?
Salamaders found there, same as - Tomato-Tom-ot-to, potato, pot-to-toe
[ In Reply To ..]Newts, also.... Next
Neither of which feast on roadkill ... - Sigh
[ In Reply To ..]I am surprised you did not mention the obvious ... buzzards.
Never did I say they fed on road kill....but - would you not care they
[ In Reply To ..]crawl on road kill, lay eggs there or would you just say hmmmmmm, a little more protein? Sounds nasty to me, the road kill, and the things that could get on them. Be for real!
Lived in Alaska for 10 years - in the 1980s
[ In Reply To ..]I was transferred by my employer to Alaska and lived all over the state (Juneau, Kenai Peninsula, Anchorage, North Pole, Kodiak). I had to have a "block heater" installed in my car and plugged it in whenever I parked my car (there are outlets everywhere) during the winter to keep the engine from freezing. There were grocery stores everywhere I lived, so I never had to eat road-kill or anything. I would have gladly lived on salmon and king crab (and practically did). It was a wonderful adventure, and I would definitely move back if given the opportunity, but the cost of living is high. The Permanent Fund refund is nice (it was $2000/year per resident when I was there). The 24-hour daylight in summer and 24-hour night in winter was always a challenge, but you buy heavy drapes for your windows and deal with it. It's probably a generalization, but I found the people there to be strongly independent and creative. By the way, Anchorage has a first-class symphony orchestra, so it's not ALL rugged.
Aww, come on ...not even a little roadkill? - Confess!
[ In Reply To ..]I am surprised they have a symphony. Probably have special string defrosters.
Sounds ideal for me, but one would think the cost of living - sm
[ In Reply To ..]would be lower than other states since most do not want to live where it is so cold.
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