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huckabee out
Posted: May 15, 2011
Decided to stay in the comforting and profitable arms of Fox news and build his McMansion in Florida. The true heart of a republican shines again.
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As much as I'm glad to hear that.... - see message
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I could say the same thing about a lot of democrats. Too many politicians are self serving. You think Huckabee is the only one with a "McMansion"? Would you like to talk about Gore's mansion. How about John Kerry's or other democrat politicians. And you also don't think they profit from their version of Fox News?
I'm glad Huckabee is not running. Didn't like him as a politician and didn't vote for him. I liked him much better after when I would catch his show sometimes. Then I lost all respect for him when he came out and said certain persons should be "killed". Now there is no use for him.
I wish politicians would learn their less that if they run once for president and don't win there is a reason for it and DON'T RUN AGAIN! This includes Mitt (puke, barf) Romney, Palin, McCain, Clinton, Kerry, and all the other ones who have tried and failed in the past.
Your statement would have been more accurate if you had kept it neutral and said "The true heart of a politician shines again".
I wouldn't vote for any politician who has a reality show - sm
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I wouldn't consider anyone who has a reality show or regularly appears on a reality show as a paid guest.
Neither would I. Also... - see message
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Guess I should have written that in my message. I agree. I will never vote for anyone who has a reality show with the exception of one thing. They have proven in their past and current time that they have done good things for whatever state they are from and that they continue to work doing good things or trying to pass good bills that will help the people in their state. However, usually if that is the case they don't have a reality show.
I also will not vote for a politician who does phony publicity stunts to get attention/votes.
I will not vote for a politician who has done nothing to work for the people of the state they belong to.
I will not vote for a politician who keeps changing states not because she/he likes that state, but because she/he gets more votes.
I will not vote for a politician who keeps changing parties (and not because I care about parties because I've learned there is no difference between parties because it's all the same people running it), but I will never vote for someone who keeps changing parties just to get votes.
I will not vote for a politician who's wife/husband wants it more than they do.
I will note vote for a politician who wants the law changed to benefit him/her.
I will not vote for a politician who says the electoral vote is what counts because that is the law then finds she/he is losing and has more of the popular votes tries to get the rules changed so the popular vote out does the electoral vote. So I will never vote for a politician that wants to keep changing the rules to benefit themselves.
I will never vote for a politician who won't even clean up his own dog's doo-doo and has his/her servant do it.
I probably will never vote for a politician who has servants.
I will never vote for a politician who doesn't believe the opposing party has the right to speak.
I will never vote for a politician who promises everything to everyone yet you know full well they cannot deliver their promises.
I will never vote for a politician who doesn't even know her/his own history and spouts off at the mouth and looks the fool.
I will never vote for a politician who calls the election before all the votes have been counted (oops too late then, sorry).
Oh heck, looks like I won't be voting. HA HA.
I don't think you have anyone left to vote for. - Just what I was thinking. LOL
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Nope, I think you just eliminated all of them.
weary of same ole ole - rogist
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Every rebuttal with "well so-and-so does the same thing" is so played. With that reasoning, the unibomber gets a pass because gosh the boston strangler hurt folks too. A critical difference that really seems too obvious to point out is that Gore and Kerry have homes purchased with money that was not provided by working for a right wing looney propaganda channel while masquerading as an actual politician. As for the statement that "they" probably profited from their version of Fox," there really isn't a left wing propaganda channel. To silence the chorus of "but MSNBC is" - MSNBC has democratic leaning programs but they do not manufacture stories about their opponents being foreigners or gin up controversy about white house visitors, etc. They don't support nut jobs dressing up as pimps and pulling stunts. MSNBC has actually fired people for going too far. So in summary, Huckabee is an employee of Faux News and basically sold out his supporters. Another one rides the bus, I guess.
Whoa, hold on there....where do I even begin - see message
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So in your message it's okay for democrats to do/have things, but it's not for republicans. Because why? Democrats are so honest and angelic and they earn their money and rebuplicans don't? It's okay for Clinton and other democrats to go on MSNBC, but it's not okay for people to go on MSNBC? I hear what you're saying even though I don't agree, but you have it backwards because it's with YOUR reasoning the unibomber gets a pass because the Boston Strangler did it (i.e. because a republican makes his money dishonestly - even though you don't know how Huckabee or any republican earns his money), then it's okay for Gore or other democrats to make his money dishonestly, and Gore or any other democrat gets a free pass but Huckabee (or any other republican) doesn't. Well yeah Huckabee does get paid at Fox, but we won't even go into how Gore or Kerry or even John Edwards or other democrats make their money.
When will people realize that for every republican who does something wrong there is democrat who does something wrong and vice versa. For every guilty Huckabee there is a guilty Matthews, etc, and it doesn't make it right no matter which side they are on if they are doing something wrong. The problem here is Huckabee has not done anything wrong no matter how much I don't like the guy.
First...Huckabee did not make all his money on Fox news. He was a governor among other jobs. He has a wife and family and I don't think anyone knows exactly where his money comes from for the home he buys. So he is not deserving to have a home because he goes on Fox?
And, no you don't "silence the chorus". Let me explain since you don't understand. There is a huge left-wing propaganda station. It IS called MSNBC and it is propaganda. No, sorry they don't get a free ride. Except they do not have just "democratic leaning programs". That's putting it way too mildly and trying to lessen the severity of the damage they do. They have communist-leaning programs. Yeah, yeah, ooohhh that scary word "communist". Sorry people who enjoy the station and watch it that's fine. I watch it myself. I watch it because I need to get all sides of different stories. If someone on Fox is saying something about Khadafi (or however you spell his name) or OBL or whoever, I want to hear what Matthews or Scarborough or any of them are saying. I don't always get the truth with Fox. Don't even watch Insanity or Oh'Really anymore. I know I will not get any truth from them, so I'll listen to Shep or Cavuto or the Judge, but then I need to hear what Wolf or Morning Joe says. I need all sides of the story if I can make any decision on what I believe about something. I don't always agree everyone on MSNBC, sometimes I do, but I also know they are communist leaning, and that's what I expect from them. It's just the way it is. But trying to say they "have democratic leaning programs" is trying to take away the serious damage they create, and they do far more damage than the people on the other side of the block. That would be like saying. "Oh Fox, they are so fair and balance, except they only have a couple people who have a tendency to have more right leaning thoughts". MSNBC teaches me to hate certain people. Fox doesn't. More people on MSNBC should have been fired but they aren't. They are kept around to stir up hate. However, I usually go neutral with CNN. At least I know I'm going to get the story with them without intervening their personal opinion like Matthews or Olberman or Shultz do. At least CNN has changed since the Clinton News Network, for the better. But with that said, both stations (Fox & MSNBC) do great damage and no, MSNBC doesn't get a free pass. And on top of that they certainly DO fabricate stories about their opponents and do it worse. What they do is take a story, cut certain parts of it out so their audience can't see the whole person or story, and then call the person this or that (a racist or violent), and make up these phony stories all to get their audience to hate. That station does far worse. But I see at least they are good at their job. I won't even go into all the manufactured stories they have made up and the dumber than a doornail Nora O'Donnell. If you want to believe MSNBC is all angels and sugar and spice and everything nice, then fine. That is your opinion. But as a person who watches all stations and can sit back and objectively look at the stories they produce on those channels and CNN too I at least have enough sense to know that trying to pass off MSNBC as an honest station is just wrong and as they say "that sheet aint gonna fly".
Yes, Huckabee has his show and since he's not a politician anymore that's fine. I don't care for his show and I don't watch it, but he has as much right to have a show on Fox as Morning Joe or The Daily Rundown and I'm sure they are not doing their shows for free and live in a grass hut in the slums.
In summary, all stations put out what they are told to put out. There is no difference between the stations. The night OBL was killed I switched between CNN, Fox, and MSNBC. They all gave the same stories. I think the opinion shows MSNBC or more colorful (even though I scream at my TV at them). I think the opinion shows on Fox are just boring (and I also spend my time screaming at my TV at them), and I usually end up watching Wolf and the other people at CNN.
Another one rides the bus too, I guess.
Are there any Democratic Politicians with Reality Shows? - Connecting The Dots
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I was just trying to name all of the Democrats who have reality TV shows. I'm sure there must be some, but I can't think of any.
If you mean Dem politicians...not that I know - of. Lots of Dems have
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"talk" shows though. Folks here quote them like gospel. Bill Maher (now there's a peach of a guy), Jon Stewart (if only I were as smart as he THINKS he is)....Oprah Winfrey (also known as the Obama network)....need I go on?
Those aren't politicians. There are no Democratic politicians running TV shows - As far as I know
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I don't know of any. I'm really not into talk show hosts running for President.
What pub has a reality show? - Backwards Typist
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None that I know of. If you're thinking of Huckabee, it's not a reality show. It's a talk show. If you're thinking of the Trump, he has a reality show but he's not a politician......yet.
I don't know any politicians with a reality show. Can you name them?
Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Huckabee, and Santorum - On Fox and now Bristol Palin
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Sarah Palin apparently had one called 'Alaska' and now Bristol has one. Newt Gingrich, Huckabee, and Santorum have or have had jobs with Fox.
Gingrich, Huckabee and Santorum do not have reality shows - and Bristol is not a politician
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Now you're just grasping at straws.
SP yes, the rest no, and one of them is not even a politician.
I said that they had jobs with Fox - sm
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Fox likes to hire Republican politicians!
So what is your point? And Bristol is still not a politician - and Fox has not hired her
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Still grasping at straws I see.
As I said, Huckabee has a talk show. Big difference - Backwards Typist
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between a talk show and reality show. Gingrich and Santorum was under contract to give opinions on Fox. They didn't have their own shows as far as I know.
Who cares about Palin and Palin? I sure don't, and S.P's show was about Alaska. That is considered a reality show. Don't know what B.P's is supposed to be about and don't care. Sarah's not running for president anyway. So, it really is a moot point, don't you think?
BTW, all those other politician's that go on shows like Matthews, Maddow, Olberman, Shultz, etc., etc. If they're in the studio, do you think they do it for nothing? I doubt it. Now, if they're in the capitol, it's a different story since they kinda get 'cornered' for their opinion on a law coming up for vote.
ABSOLUTELY politicians on those news shows do it for FREE! - That's a major policy
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That's a policy that would be a major story if they ever broke it. Politicians on news shows are not to be paid.
what was that? - pollie
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a glimmer of intelligence . .. . there must be life on this planet!
response - pollie
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first paragraph - u totally missed the point. second paragraph - huckabee has a contract with Fox for $500,000 a year - public record. third paragraph - communist? really? Ok. (cue Main Street Media). I watch Fox occasionally too - for entertainment purposes only. I keep current on events so I am not in danger of being misinformed.
That's $500,000/year plus benefits plus a public platform - Thinking Out Loud
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I like him, but he says the darndest things sometimes, that makes him sound less than informed. Then he'll surprise me and say something intelligent. He's probably worth $500,000/year to Fox as an entertainer/right-wing talk show/reality show host who plays an instrument.
Thinking out loud - - just saying
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I don't like him. I don't tune him in. I don't care how much he makes. I also don't care how much O'Reilly, Matthews, Maddow, or Hannity makes. Mike Huckabee doesn't have a reality show. He does have a show with guests but that is not what a reality show is. If you call that a reality show then so does Matthews, O'Reilly, Rachel Maddow and all the others. Palin had a reality show, but I put her in the same category as Snookie.
And if I do recall correctly Bill Clinton played the Saxophone. But then again he was a side show.
Many of the people on all the stations do get paid a lot of money, and they also do tours and write books and other stuff to make their money. But then again I guess if you are on Fox you should not be allowed to have a nice home.
I really wish I could dislike Clinton but I made so much money when he was President! - Remembering the good old days
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I've always wanted to dislike President Clinton because of his errors in personal morality judgment. He did a great job in running the country though and I benefited from it greatly! He did, however, what all the others have done, hurting all Americans by insisting that we open up trade, which resulted in sending most American jobs overseas. Yes, he also plays the saxophone. What does that have to do with anything? President Truman played the piano. That's a far cry from being a paid commentator/entertainer on TV, which in my opinion eliminates someone from being seriously considered for an important office.
I'm exactly the opposite - just saying
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I really wish I could like him. He seems nice enough person. My dad likes him, my MIL likes him. I have a lot of friends who like him. Personally I could care less that he had affairs with so many women. If he and Hillary were having problems and he or she did whatever that is their own private matter (at least to me). The thing is when he was in office was the worst times of our lives financially. We lived in a 1 bedroom apartment, taxes kept going up, we had nothing. Never went on a vacation except to see my family, which my mom would buy my ticket and give me enough money to cover what I would have gotten paid working. No new car, no anything. We just could not make ends meet. He was the beginning of jobs being sent overseas. He signed bills that were bad for our country and we were broke all the time (and we didn't party or anything like that. Worked, sometimes OT, came home ate hot dogs and beans and simple food like that, watched TV, maybe played a computer game, woke up and did it all over again. The Clinton years were the worst in my time to be able to live like a normal human being and do the things other people did. When he left office, our income improved, our taxes went down and we were able to feel like we were working towards something. We moved from a 1 bedroom to renting a house. We finally felt good about ourselves and finally were able to save something.
Him playing the saxophone was in response to Huckabee's comment about playing an instrument. I actually think its pretty cool if anyone can play an instrument. But if your going to cut down someone (which the poster did about Huckabee playing an instrument), then you have to look at all the other politican figures who can play in instrument. I think it's cool and wish I could. Just don't cut someone down for being able to play in instrument (which the poster I replied to did).
Ya know this is my deal. You can't cut down Huckabee just because he is on Fox, because then you need to start with Matthews Oh'Really, Maddow, Insanity and all the others. Huckabee is not a politician. He is a TV show host just like Matthews, Olbermann, etc. Don't cut the guy down because me makes money, can play and instrument and has bought himself a nice home, because others have done it too.
I didn't realize someone insulted Huckabee for playing an instrument - Connecting The Dots
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I think I remember it being mentioned, but not as a bad thing. Maybe it was. I can't remember that far back.
As far as your having a bad time economically during Clinton's administration, that does surprise me. I thought everyone was doing well. I had never done better before then and sure haven't done better after Clinton's Presidency, but I hadn't really thought about the fact that not everybody did. That's a good point. I've had many bad years where I didn't have enough money to fix a flat tire. I remember looking through the car seat to see if I could scrounge up enough change to buy a loaf of bread. I hope never to go through times like that again.
No, everyone was not doing well - see message
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DH and I were doing badly. My dad back east said everyone he knew was doing badly including himself. He was out of work and couldn't find anything. He was out of work for almost 2 years. People were losing their homes. He was homeless and took in by a lady who let him stay with her and they had friends who lost their jobs and couldn't make it and they'd put them up. One couple he said were living in a tent. The campground let them stay for free. It was fall time and getting cold and that's all they could afford (and they worked). There were a lot of people who did poorly under Clinton. I lived in CA and we couldn't makes ends meet and so were a lot of other families we knew. We were worried and we were worried all the time. The Clintons got out and things improved all over.
I'm sure he is a nice man, but as President he was lousy.
As far as the instrument remark the poster said it as a snide and rude remark. I'm trying to tell you I don't like him, I don't watch his show. I don't want him as president, but I think he's being unfairly crucified. Yes, I know, but crucified is a good term for what this conversation has turned into. The guy's done nothing wrong unless you call having a show on the Fox station wrong. He's just making a living like a lot of the other TV personalities like Oreilly and Maddow, etc. The comment about the instrument was this...
"He's probably worth $500,000/year to Fox as an entertainer/right-wing talk show/reality show host who plays an instrument."
That was meant as a cut down.
I doubt that Huckabee would find that statement to be an insult - See message
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There's nothing wrong with making money. I think the point was that it is inappropriate for those who are seriously interested in high-level positions in government to work as paid commentators, entertainers, or whatever position it is they hold on any network. It just happens to be Fox that hires all of the would-be candidates. It wouldn't be right if the others did it either. Oh yes! Whoever Trump works for. That also would be inappropriate in my opinion. It's just my opinion though. I'm not making rules for anyone but me. I wouldn't vote for someone who has been paid for their political comments or who has a reality show, about Alaska or whatever it's about. Others are free to think differently. That's America!
No, you're the one who missed the point - Let me explain
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Look, you're obviously avoiding the truth. First paragraph you are the one who missed the point. The OPs whole rant was that Huckabee is buying a home with money he made from being on Fox. Ya know what...who the heck cares. It's obvious by her post that she's okay with Gore making his money the way he does and having a mansion or Kerry and his billions and his multiple mansions, but not Huckabee. And why because he's on Fox. So who gives a rat's pitooy that Huckabee makes money on Fox or Matthews makes money on MSNBC, Wolf on CNN or any of the people who have contracts with NPR or any other station. They ALL make money and that's what you don't get (i.e. missing the point - deliberately).
Third paragraph....communist? Yes, really. If you enjoy that thing that's fine. I too watch it but for entertainment purposes. When I want the real news I don't get it from any station on TV. TV is for entertainment, but it certainly does not give anyone the real news of things happening in the world. I keep CNN tuned in throughout the day (lesser annoying than the other two).
But you are missing the point totally. People have contracts at Fox, people have contracts at MSNBC, CNN, NPR, etc. So what if Huckabee, MSNBC or others have contracts with any of the stations and for how much. It doesn't matter if Huckabee makes 5k, 50K or 500K or whatever. All these TV anchors make a lot of money no matter what station they belong to. So what if Fox pays them more. Or if Soros donates millions to the liberal stations. Who cares. The poster made a snide comment about Huckabee getting paid and buying a "McMansion" and then made a snotty/hateful comment about republicans. Well Gore has a mansion and he certainly didn't make his money honestly. And Kerry has a mansion (more than one), so does a lot of people in politics or news. I'm sure none of the other anchor on any of the stations are living in grass huts or in the slums, but it's not okay because Huckabee is on Fox. If he went on MSNBC it would be okay with you people, just not Fox.
No you are the one who is deliberately missed the point. Get a grip!
Neither Gore Nor Kerry Made Money As a TV Commentator or Reality Show Host - No Reality Show Hosts For Me!
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There is nothing wrong with television news commentators, but that takes them out of consideration for serious leadership jobs, as far as I'm concerned. I would absolutely and totally reject a reality show host.
No, they didn't - see message
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Gore makes his money dihonestly, lying to the people, etc, etc, etc.
Kerry inherited a lot of his money.
Gore and Kerry both have mansions as Huckabee does. You keep showing more and more that you just don't think anyone who goes on Fox should have a nice home.
this has to be a plant - pollie
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no one is really that dense - to actually think the concern here is about who lives in a nice home . . . you're good though, very good. belly laughs all around.
I agree with you. I'm happy for all of them to have nice homes - Whats the deal about that?
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Nothing wrong with fine homes. I'm even okay with fancy cars if they can afford them.
Senator Kerry didn't marry a reality show host or commentator - As far as I know
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I don't think Senator Kerry's wife was a reality show host or news commentator.
Kerry married the late Sen. Heinz (Heinz ketchup, etc.) - Backwards Typist
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widow. That's how he wound up with all that moola above and beyond his political salary.
That's right. Many of the politicians are rich for one reason or another - Is that bad?
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I think it would be disturbing if they are running for a serious political office and they make their money as entertainers/commentators/reality show hosts, etc. Otherwise I don't care if they have money or not.
Well evidently if they go on Fox it is bad. Otherwise the other - stations are just fine. nm
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no message needed.
If they are entertainers or paid political commentators, - I would not vote for them
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I do think that would be very inappropriate. Someone who expects to be seriously considered for our nation's highest offices shouldn't need to be paid to give those opinions.
final response - pollie
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the realization that some Americans cannot see the profound implications of politicians making their living from propaganda purveyors doesnt surprise me but does sadden me. Most of your statements are so irrelevant and off the mark I decline further discourse. The final remark about those poor ole Fox folks not deserving a fine home was a hoot. Yes those guys are just like us, just plain hard workin folks. Beck. Hannity. Falafa O'reilly. Yeah.
And my final response - Let me explain
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The hatred for Fox shines through loud and clear. Just cos I don't loathe and criticize and cut them down does not mean I watch them all the time because I don't. But it's not right to come on here and cut down Huckabee because he works for Fox and has just bought a home when everyone on MSNBC, NPR, CNN, and other liberal stations do the same exact thing. Have people lost all sense of reality that they think anyone who works at Fox should be living as a homeless person and not making a life for themselves like anyone else.
Huckabee was unfairly and wrongly cut down by the OP. What's that saying "why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye".
That about says it all.
Done trying to talk people who just feed off of hate and jealousy.
Goodbye
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