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TOP GOVT. INSIDER: OBL Died in '01, 09/11 Was a False Flag


Posted: May 6, 2011

 

Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 4, 2011

Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag 040511top

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.

Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

“He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

“This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.

During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.

Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.

http://www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/

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Totally believable - ME

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When we spoke out about the falseness of 9/11 and subsequent fake war in Iraq, people condemned us a "bush haters."

Now I see Obama is also lying to the American public but it's not surprising: YOU CANNOT be president if you are unwilling to support US foreign policy (ergo lying for starters). Period.

It will be interesting to see if the same group who condemned us for speaking the truth against bush will change sides - now that it is Obama in that role...

You see, REAL patriots stand up for the truth and for their COUNTRY, no matter who is 'president.'

How can you say 9/11 was false? - Jan

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Are you not aware that a lot of PEOPLE died that day? These people where doing nothing to harm anyone and were just going on about their lives and were murdered. It can't be put any plainer than that, 9/11 happened and was real!

Does the government lie? Sure, sometimes. It has to in order to keep our country's confidential and secret/classified information out of the hands of people and countries who would use it to harm us. If our government told us absolutely everything, don't you think these other people would hear it to? It is just basic common sense. Certainly, you are correct that you can't be president and be 100% truthful about about many things. But, there is a reason for that.

People who lack common sense should not run off at the mouth so much as it only makes them look and sound less than smart.

As for Bin Laden, I hope he messed his drawers and was shaking in his flip-flops as he looked down the barel of his destiny.

She didn't say it never happened - see message

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Did you even read her post? Nowhere in her post did she say 911 didn't happen and people didn't die. Cheese-o-pete people! Stop making things up!

Did you even read the OPs article. This is coming from a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Nixon, Ford and Carter, and Reagan and Bush Sr. and he still works as a consultant for the DOD. He is a former US Navy Captain, and received 2 prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School while simultaneously completing a PhD at MIT.

This is not some Joe the Plummer saying this. What he is saying and willing to say under oath is pretty serious. If he is lying he knows the consequences and would not do it.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to believe, especially in your own words you said "the government lies" Why is this so different, because Obama is president and you don't think he lies? Would you believe this article if Bush were president? Most likely.

As for Bin Laden, I don't think he "messed his pants". I do think he suffered (which I think is his just reward) as Marfan's sounds like a very painful disease. And the best thing is he knew he was that sick and there was no cure. Maybe that is why he was such a "bleep".

Maybe you read the posters message wrong. The "falseness of 9/11" doesn't mean it didn't happen. Of course it happened. It was on TV, the whole world watched it happen. It was sickening and horrifying and still makes me cry even now writing this thinking about the poor people who died. The falseness is talking about who did it and why. She even said "the subsequent fake war in Iraq".

You should follow your own advice when you wrote "People who lack common sense should not run off at the mouth so much as it only makes them look and sound less smart". Because that's exactly how your post comes off.
Sounds like the OP is replying to - his/her own posts
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There are some weird websites promoting this one - please see message
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I Googled this and came up with nothing but very strange websites and a warning from one person that he got a very bad computer virus from one of them. I didn't actually click on any of the weird sites because they were ...weird. I went to all sorts of credible sites and found nothing. Apparently they don't give this one the time of day.
Credible to whom, sheep? - ROFL
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This man has worked in three different administrations and was on the Alex Jones Show several days in a row being interviewed. You have NO refutation of that, so all you can do is talk about "weird" websites and the spectre of picking up a virus on your PC. You did NOT get any virus from the link I provided, so what is your point? That there are viruses online? I think everyone is aware of that.

Credibility is in the eye of the beholder. To a sheep, lamestream websites would be credible. To a nonsheep -- someone who is AWAKE and is no longer drinking the government Kool-Aid -- a lamestream website would be the LAST place to look for TRUTH.

If your litmus test is whether or not lamestream websites support something, you are just looking for ECHOES. Here's a novel idea: Why not do some ORIGINAL digging of your own? And, in the meantime, don't be so quick to jump to conclusions until you have FINISHED said research.

Excellent reply - could have not said it better myself - Thanks for posting - nm
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nm
Please, STOP replying to our own posts - already
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WRONG once again. Not replying to my own post - you can even - ask the moderator to verify this.
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You think because someone doesn't agree with you that that person keeps posting and replying to their own posts? You do know we have better things to do. Besides, that are a lot of people who believe what we do.

So go ahead, ask the operator if my reply was to a post I wrote. She will tell you no.
OhhhK, sure. - Whatever ALL of you say
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Why don\'t you just go ahead and take her challenge? - nm
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The fact is - sm
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He lost any semblance of credibility the moment he decided to be on the Beck-on-steroids, errr, I mean Alex Jones show. He never met a conspiracy theory he did not like, embrace, promote and exploit. I am curious. Did you buy the survival garden seed kit advertised on his website so you can have food when the grocery store shelves run out? The 10-day Extreme Emergency Kit valued at $300? The bomb sheleter? Concealable body armour? NukeAlert keychain? The Strategic Relocation North American Guide to Safe Places? The poison-is-in-the-tap-water T-shirt warning us bout the danger of fluoride in drinking water, which I have been ingesting for 60+ years now and so far have not been struck down with the plague.

By the way, when lecturing the rest of us on being lamestream sheep who cannot think for ourselves, might want to ditch all those worn-out buzz words from the fringosphere.
Oh my, is that what this Alex Jones guy is all about? - Beyond Words
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No wonder the sites related to him look so flaky. They are! Thanks for filling us in about what or who this guy is. I'd never heard of him. I think my life will not lack anything if I never hear about him or from him again.
Yep. Once is more than enough. LOL. - nm
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nm
WRONG! I am the OP - MasterOP
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Wrong. I am the OP and just checked the thread.

Isn't this supposed to be a community of MTs? You're supposed to be wordsmiths, yet when you encounter an unfamiliar term like "false flag" you don't even bother to look it up. Geesh!
Question for you - mbmt
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Are you an MT?

Okay...so it is true because a guy - sm

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was supposedly told by another guy and we should believe him because....why? I don't care what position that guy had in how many administrations. You cannot claim something to be true just because someone heard something from someone else. Oh...and he swears he will tell who told him....although he didn't tell. Hmmm....interesting. Sorry...not buying it.

Oh my - mbmt

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So, are you saying that 9/11 was an inside job? I may not have been a big fan of the previous administration, but to suggest that they orchestrated 9/11 is really nuts. Those websites that have Steve Pieczenik's statements do not seem to be reputable.

That's an understatement. I wouldn't touch those sites with a 10-ft.-pole - No kidding!

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It just doesn't make sense to take the risk of going to those kinds of places online. You don't know where they may take you. My computer is too valuable to me.

I know what you mean - mbmt

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These websites seem to be pretty far out there, and I can believe that surfing them could lead to a virus.

The content of the claims in the OP's article is really nutty in my opinion. I could not find one single thing on any reputable website about Steve Pieczenik's claims.
I couldn't either, and I really spent time looking - nm
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