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GOP 2012 platform's position on climate change.
Posted: Sep 1, 2012
The GOP's 2008 platform's statement on climate change said, "common sense dictates that the United States should take measured and reasonable steps today to reduce any impact on the environment. "
March backwards to 2012 and we have...no statement on climate change at all, much less applying good sense to it. Quite the contrary, as in commercial concerns such as "take quick action to prohibit the EPA from moving forward with new greenhouse gas regulations.”
A link to a fascinating, and appalling, Washington Post article is below.
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I'd say in about 10 to 20 years from now...sm - JTBB
[ In Reply To ..]that sarcastic comment Romney said about Obama trying to keep the oceans from rising will be looked at like those "scholars" who said the world was flat.
""Sarcastic comment? It was a quote. (sm) - nm
[ In Reply To ..]Can't Obama even take responsibility for his own words? Never mind. Rhetorical.
Here are both statements for comparison. I do agree - wholeheartedly with JTBB that we will
[ In Reply To ..]all be bitterly ashamed of our era and our parts in it, to date at least. Here are the parts of speeches referred to:
President Obama, June 2008 speech: "The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. This was the moment, this was the time when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves, and our highest ideals."
Mitt Romney, RNC acceptance speech: "President Obama promised to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet. My promise is to help you and your family."
It was a joke. Promises to stop the skid, though not the flood, were offered elsewhere in his speech.
I already knew the speech and what he said. - He should take responsibility. (sm)
[ In Reply To ..]You shouldn't have gone to so much trouble.
Take responsibility for what? Wanting to address - the challenge head-on
[ In Reply To ..]or have the wrongs figured out some cognitive twist that allows them to lay the responsibility for man-made contributions to accelerated global warming at the feet of one man? What are you talking about?
BTW, its always a pleasure to provide accurate information within its full context to illustrate falsehoods and "half-truths" that tumble out of both sides of Romney's mouth on such a regular basis. No trouble at all.
Why not the same effort in all the lies:: - BO has made-Guess those you want
[ In Reply To ..]out there as much as BO does.
That's your job. You put 'em up here and we'll - take it from there
[ In Reply To ..]just like what happened in this thread. Truthful information was posted to debunk the original claim even before the misleading/false info in the OP was updated.
I do wish O would address the ocean - HEAD FIRST. (sm) - Aunt Sue
[ In Reply To ..]That would take care of the country's BIGGEST problem.
THANKS FOR THE LAUGH::and great - Idea! I bet the
[ In Reply To ..]Secret Service would not bother to rescue that stinking fish. ;)
On the plus side, our military is "combating" climate change - security problems, to everyone's benefit. SM!
[ In Reply To ..]While political wrangling strangles action on the civil front, our military has started researching 6 ways from Sunday to try to make our troops energy efficient and to get ready for the new military conflicts inevitably resulting from climate change. And just as military research and development was a big factor in getting us the Internet, so the need to make Navy Seals energy-independent and potentially fight the entire world for energy will give us...?
At least in this respect I don't grudge where all all of those trillions of "extra" dollars flowing to the military are going. Both for taking genuine action in this emergency and because I really don't fancy one of my small grandsons someday being drafted in a 20-year war to guard an oil pipeline in Central Asia.
Link to fascinating article on this, no graphs (!) and not very long.
In 2008, the RNC knew we had to take action. We know - the Great Plains will suffer from
[ In Reply To ..]recurrent severe droughts, less frequent but more severe storms, aquifer shrinkage, periods of extreme heat, and a big question is whether we're in for another Dust Bowl, but without an end in sight. If this continues, and it seems to be accelerating at this time, much of our farmland will become untenable, and with it many communities and homes will wither and dry up too and the food produced there...will not be.
How do our "Homeland" Republicans feel about this platform? Is it just noise to placate some groups. Is other action taking place?
Self evident truths straight from the Heartland - escape them.
[ In Reply To ..]I'm with you. Would love to see their spin and plan on this. Perhaps we could douse them with tankers full of nonrenewables, light a match, and get it over with.
Shows you Dems mentality-"KILL" anyone:: - not agreeing with you
[ In Reply To ..]..
Shows GOP willingness to let the Homeland - go up in smoke
[ In Reply To ..]behind scientifically unsound partisan special interest "principles." Whether that happens instantly or over a decade or two is secondary. The movie ends the same way.
Personally, I'd prefer a swift demise rather than a slow, painful departure, and at least the GOP nonrenewables approach would allow them to continue to exploit every single last drop of the endangered energy resource before the end times come.
Yep-dems/libs solution "burn" anyone opposing POV: - and they wonder about Hitler comparison
[ In Reply To ..]Their posts just sink lower and lower. ***...NuffSaid
Context and metaphors sure can be a challenge, - sm
[ In Reply To ..]The deliberate confusion here has not gone undetected. When talking about blaring GOP climate change policy deficits, and when a post refers either directly or indirectly to such deficits, then employs metaphor, meaning is often lost on the concrete thinkers among us. "We" understand, and offer the following helping hand with the statement in question:
"Perhaps we could douse them with tankers full of nonrenewables, light a match, and get it over with."
In this context, "we" refers to Americans, as in all of us regardless of party affiliation. I know. It's a tough concept to wrap one's head around, that GOP policies are supposed to be crafted for the benefit of ALL Americans, not just a select fringe wing and the corporations-are-people-too electorate. But there it is. We at least try to pretend party platforms are designed to appeal to ALL voters, given the intent of swaying undecideds over one way or the other.
Logic also tells us that no "dem/lib" would advocate the use of nonrenewables over green energy sources, so that's strike two against this juvenile argument.
I guess tongue-in-cheek posts must always be emblazoned with the [SARC] disclaimer in the future to minimize these embarrassing misunderstandings, though, admittedly, the willfully ignorant will just keep right on truckin' through their muddy pastures, looking for something to sling.
ANYONE care to comment on environmental issues - we need or do not need to tackle? NM
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Ownership of coastal properties is mostly wealthy now, so - they will expect all taxpayers to build some
[ In Reply To ..]really big walls. etc., and thousands of miles of them to protect their vacation homes from rising sea levels. Personally, I'm kinda hoping for it to protect my little 50-year-old single-wide on a salt water canal right off Tampa Bay. Fortunately here are some very expensive waterfront high rises and gated subdivisions bracketing my tacky little over-55 mobile home coop.
Thank you all in advance, of course. Unless you just say no.
The law in Hawaii says that no property owner can ever restrict...sm - VTMT
[ In Reply To ..]access to the ocean and Hawaii's beaches. Even property fronting the ocean cannot have a private beach. Excellent idea in my opinion. It always bugged me when coastal states sell beach property and restrict free access to the beaches and the ocean or charge a fee.
Boy, am I with you. Altho California has the same law, many miles of beach - are reachable only by walking miles down
[ In Reply To ..]them or climbing over the fences, etc., connecting the shoulder-to-shoulder private properties keeping the other 99.99999999% of the people who own them from being able to even see them, much less stroll them.
As sure as money flows up, though, we will be taxed to pay to protect those very houses from the rising oceans. If we allow it. The dysfunction evidenced on this board isn't comforting, though.
I care to... - ctmt
[ In Reply To ..]Our energy problems will never be solved by policies that that keep us tied to finite, nonrenewable resources.
We have been at this energy game for more than 40 years now with little improvement - largely because of fat cat politicians who follow the money - and we can look forward to another 40 years of energy dependence and policy impasse if Romney gets the chance to implement the retrograde practices described in his energy policy. (See his website.)
If he thinks we have the drive and intelligence to be energy-independent by 2020 (see his website), it begs the question: What have we been waiting for? The answer is this: There is little impetus to change a broken system when it is so profitable for those at the top of the corporate food chain. Romney's policies affirm this fact.
It appears Romney has little faith in the bounty of America's talent to innovate, to develop cutting-edge technologies, to progress. What a profound waste of resources THAT is.
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