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Posted: Aug 18, 2012
could tell me why the press never mentions "Obama's war" deaths. When Bush was president, they told us everyday. Now that this is Obama's war, there's nary a mention of July being the DEADLIEST month for our troops. Why is that? Obama's WH leaks and puts all our servicepeople in danger, and he's out on the campaign trail. Go ahead, tell me he is not trying to destroy our country.
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Here's one - See link
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But why don't we hear the tally everyday anymore? - Is it not news? Or the media is dead?
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Where do you get your news? I do hear a tally on the - news every day when there are deaths. nm
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Maybe its a continuation of W's policy of forbidding - press photos of body bags
[ In Reply To ..]Forbidding photos was not the only way he kept dead soldiers out of the picture. W used quite an impressive lexicon of disembodied war rhetoric, designed to place fatalities in the abstract. I guess he and Darth never did give up clinging to the hope they could still engineer a "candy and flowers" photo op.
"Collateral damage" is a convenient way to refer to scores of civilians killed in not-so-surgical strikes Other scriptors that come to mind are targets, or talking about the "outcome" of using certain types of weaponry (while boasting of their efficient effect), losses, and the like. Another clever way of covering up the more visceral aspects of war is the minimizing ruse of discounting hundreds, and sometimes thousands of dead bodies that cannot be "independently verified."
Fatalities and casualties stats from the other side dubbed enemy "propaganda" are summarily dismissed, thus assigning a much higher value on the lives of US soldiers than, for example, Moslem children or those whose parents are Taliban. Carry this thinking a bit further and we can conclude that "our" lives are worth defending, but "theirs" are not, thus creating an airtight case used to justify future wars.
The culture of dehumanizaton is certainly nothing new. BTW, hadn't you heard? After more than 10 years, Afghanistan has become the forgotten war that rarely gets mentioned in broadcast media....or should I say CORPORATE media? You will not find these reports on Fox any more often than you will on CNN, MSNBC or in MSM. It has little to do with Obama, or W for that matter. He was just following in the footsteps of those who came before in this regard.
The reality is it's all about the ratings game. They don't report it because we don't want to hear it. It's not sensational enough to even sell a box of Pampers, is it? Instead, we have stories like Rev Wright, Moslem witch hunts and the birther issue to fit that bill.
Nonetheless, in terms of partisan proclivities, we do have one side that hawks up the election cycles, cries foul over Pentagon budget cuts, prognosticates gloomy doomy Armageddon at the mere mention of diplomacy, cheerfully demands overflowing war chests, then promptly turns their backs on the "outcomes" of such policies, in much the same way they handle the abortion issue.
I hear it all the time on NPR - nm
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Question (sm) - Curious
[ In Reply To ..]I'm curious. Whoever checked the dislike box for the above post, why? Is it the record number of deaths you dislike, or the fact that the media doesn't report on them anymore, like they mean nothing? Or that the leaks come from the WH and are glossed over by the media? Which part exactly do you dislike?
My guess would be probably the fact that someone is - bringing it up.
[ In Reply To ..]I think now adays people can't take the like/dislike seriously. The only thing most of them are upset about is the fact that anyone is bringing this up. It's much easier (and fun for them) to talk about and kick down republicans, but when the failure of a democrat politician, no matter who it is, is brought up they get defensive as though everyone is just supposed to ignore it.
I could have sworn cons ruled likes and dislikes - questions off limits
[ In Reply To ..]just a short week or two back, wasn't it?
Huh? It was on MSNBC.....sm - JTBB
[ In Reply To ..]just about every night last week...green on blue attacks in particular. Interviews with correspondents there...etc. Don't know about the other stations.
The fact that you watch MSNBC every night explains a lot. - nm
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Fox, being pro-war machine - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Is probably why you are so uninformed. I see this news from Afghanistan all the time. Ever heard of richard Engle? Try the google.
Way to stay on topic....nm - JTBB
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Rarely real discussions here - mostly just sniping. - Disgusted
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Such as OP insinuating liberals are in charge of media war reporting? - please enlighten us
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I don't recall it being labeled "Bush's war" deaths - bootstraps
[ In Reply To ..]although he did start the war and he deserves the credit.
I don't get how you can say it's Obama's war.
I don't know what you qualify as knowledgeable, but I do know, which I thought was common knowledge that:
Bush waged a war based on false/no intelligence by his administration.
Osama bin Laden, the party responsible for the terrorist attack on World Trade Towers, was put to rest during the Obama administration. Bush said he could care less where he was.
I don't think Obama is trying to destroy our country. Bush wasn't trying to either, but he just about did (not to mention all the blood on his hands)... after all, a Republican administration isn't complete unless there's a war.
Sure Obama is campaigning. EVERY incumbent campaigns. George Bush campaigned.
But you remember where Bush was on 9/11. He was reading to school children. Isn't that a VP or first lady duty? But no, the VP was in the White House....the same guy who was probably the only one who came out on top as a result of the war. His company raked in the contracts. And no doubt he was big influence on Bush to invade Iran.
I think it was Keith Olberman who religiously gave the number at the end of each broadcast.
correcting my post -- s/b Iraq in 2nd to last para - bootstraps (nm)
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