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Occupy protesters shutting down ports


Posted: Dec 12, 2011

Monday, December 12, 2011

Occupy protesters shutting down ports in spite of unions telling them not to

By John Aravosis (DC) on 12/12/2011 1100 AM


#fullpost { display: none; } I don't know about this. From AP:

Anti-Wall Street protesters along the West Coast joined an effort Monday to blockade some of the nation’s busiest docks, with the idea that if they cut off the ports, they cut into corporate profits.

The protesters are targeting the locations because they believe American ports have become “economic engines for the elite.” They are most upset by two West Coast companies — giant West Coast port operator SSA Marine and grain exporter EGT — that they believe epitomize the big corporations that make up the “1 percent.”

Goldman Sachs owns a major stake in SSA Marine, and the bank has been a repeated target of Occupy protesters since the movement began. The two port companies have also engaged in high-profile clashes with union workers lately, and the Occupy protesters want to stand up for the workers.

Okay, the connection to Goldman is interesting. But I'd like to know a hell of a lot more about just who works at that port, and whose goods are going through that port - meaning, they're not stopping Goldman's imports, they're stopping imports to businesses across America (and exports from business across America) right before Christmas, and during a Depression. And what's worse, the unions seem, at best, divided on this action (which isn't a good thing if it's supposedly being done in support of the unions).

More from CNN

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In addition to Los Angeles, Oakland, and San Diego protesters planned to shut down ports in Portland, Oregon; Seattle and Tacoma, Washington, Vancouver, British Columbia and Anchorage, Alaska, according to the Occupy the Ports website.

Then there's this:

"We are occupying the ports as part of a day of action, boycott and march for full legalization and good jobs for all to draw attention to and protest the criminal system of concentrated wealth that depends on local and global exploitation of working people, and the denial of workers' rights to organize for decent pay, working conditions and benefits, in disregard for the environment and the health and safety of surrounding communities," organizers said on their website.

Hmm. This is starting to sound more radical than I'm comfortable with, and that's the first time I've felt this way throughout these many months. And according to the article, truckers, for example, are going to lose a day of pay because of this action. I'm sorry, but that bothers me right before Christmas and in the middle of a Depression.

Alternet has a different take on all of this

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If work is shut down at the ports, "It's one more day that Goldman Sachs and Wall Street firms are unable to create profit," said Koch. And as the website for the action says, "U.S. ports have thus become economic engines for the elite; the 1 percent these trade hubs serve are free to rip the shirts off the backs of the 99 percent, who turn their profits."

That's how port truck driver Leonardo Mejia from Los Angeles sees it, too. Drivers, he says, "are part of the 99 percent." Mejia drives for Shippers Transport Express in Los Angeles and says that he's excited about the action, even if work stops at the nation's largest port complex. It means that he and most of his fellow drivers (not just the 1 percent) will also not be making any money that day. Mejia is part of the 82 percent of port truck drivers in the United States that are classified as independent contractors and not employees.

Maybe. I'm just getting a bad feeling about all of this. I hope I'm wrong. Your thoughts?

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They are out of control at this point and only - HURTING those they represent. nm

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Occu"pie"ers - 2cents

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I find it interesting that all these folks who are protesting against others who make money don't have a job themselves. Sure, there's a bunch of crooks in all aspects of the economy,the gov., and the world for that matter, but there are many, many more who actually WORKED TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE TODAY! Makes me sick to see them all out there wanting a piece of pie that they haven't and probably won't lift a finger for! If they want to change it, then they need to get their tails out and work for it. I'm tired of people thinking their entitled to everything somebody else has! The GREED of this nation is not only in Washington and Wall Street. These 'occu"pie"ers are just as greedy. Only problem is, they don't wanna work for it. They can either make a difference in this world to change what's not right or they can camp out with signs and gripe about it! See what they've chosen?

Exactly. They want the 1pct to just HANDOUT money to them? - That truly is worse than greedy WallStreet.nm

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You think we're asking for handouts? Sheesh, - youre delusional. Do some reading up.
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Care to elaborate? No one, including the protestors - themselves, understand their message.
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WHAT DO YOU WANT? Occupying, camping out, disrupting jobs of your fellow taxpayers... all you are doing at this point is ticking off the wrong people!
They want lots of things, but the NUMBER ONE - thing that most of those interviewed -sm
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say, and I would have to agree, is that CORPORATE MONEY BE REMOVED, AND PERMANENTLY KEPT OUT OF, AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.
So you want things to stay as they are now? And - hows that working out for you?
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No so good, if you are actually an MT. And if things continue on the same track they have been for the past decade, then you can multiply the not-so-good by 10. Or 1,000. It won't matter then, because you'll be a slave in a country that is OWNED BY CHINA.
EMR is destroying MT. WHAT DO YOU WANT? - 1pct to HAND you money?
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Protesters are great at doing THAT, and occupying, but they give solutions to nothing, thereby simply creating more problems instead of solving a single thing...and yes, we will be owned by China if Obama does not stop spending us into trillions more to owe China!
EMR is NOT destroying MT! Tired of hearing - that excuse.
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Let's get this right: EMR (Electronic Medical Record... AKA paperless chart) has been around for a while... since the intertubes have been reliably up and running as a matter of fact. I've personally worked on several versions since 2005, and if you work for an MTSO currently, you've probably been working on one too. All it means is that there is no longer the need for a paper chart, and other satellite offices or separate facilities have access to the patient record, lab results, imaging studies, etc., through a computer instead of having to contact the other facilities and rely on faxing, snail mail, or - even worse - rely completely on subjective patient history.

The EMR is impacting MT because of second-rate technology (back-end and front-end voice wreck and point-and-click systems) that is being sold along with the EMR as a cost-saving measure. Then figure offshore (another cost-saving profit-increasing stunt) into the equation, and you have a recipe for disaster for the American MT.

Now you have to ask yourself this question: Why is the cruddy inaccurate technology and poor work produced by such as well as foreign ESL workers acceptable? Answer: CORPORATE GREED and CONSUMER COMPLACENCY. Welcome to the Corporate - I mean, United - States of Duh. Why settle for quality (in the case of MT, an accurate medical record) when you can have cheap? I mean, the MTSOs were making money before, but now they can make UBERBUCKS by paying foreign workers slave wages according to American standards! The facilities/hospitals were doing fine, but now they can do super fine by getting rid of their transcription departments! Who cares if the patient record is wrong? And, for the facilities who are using point-and-click, why should the patient care if the doctor is half listening to them and has their nose buried in a laptop and never makes eye contact in the exam room while they're pointing and clicking away? Why should they care if part of their complaint or history is not a selection on the medical Dollar Menu? They can just leave that part out. Oh... and all patients should just accept the fact that a member of the secretarial staff is in the exam room with them once the facility realizes that they have to hire a scribe because the time wasted by the doctor or PA wading through the point-and-click garbage technology is costing them too much. Everyone should have a secretary share in their private doctor/patient time.

If you take off the tunnel vision goggles, you'd realize that the point of the protesting... especially the occupying or camping part... is to deliver the message that they're fed up AND THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE! Get it now? And if you don't think that this method has been effective, you're wrong. The police can try evicting them all they want, but the one thing that they can't stop is the fact that the protesting has gotten people talking. The more people talk, the more they become aware of the corporate stunts that have harmed the majority of the citizens in this country and this country itself. Trust me, I visited Zuccotti Park before the eviction. I've been to Manhattan MANY times in my life (I live only a few minutes away), and this is the first time that I have EVER had conversations with strangers in the street. And these conversations took place all over the city... not just in the area surrounding the camp. Tourists were talking, too... I heard them myself... and if you think that they're going to back home and never say a peep about it, you're wrong again.
Yeah, so EMR IS destroying MT....and the protesters - have proven nothing but they can trash a place.nm
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Another nugget of wisdom from a citizen of the - US of D
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Enlightening.

Thanks.
Fan of socialism, huh? I am not. I am a fan - of USA and personal responsiblity.nm
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Your Fox is showing. #1 rated cable news - channel in the US of D
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Change the channel. Expand your mind. Experience some truth.
If people haven't figured out what the occupiers want by this point - they just never will because they dont want to.
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I was watching the the guys who started Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream being interviewed and they are behind the occupy wall street protestors and are working to bring other corps in on supporting them as well because of the occupiers very "clear" message and because it is the right thing to do. So as I said, "if you don't get their message it's because you choose not to."
And whateva, I get it.
He/she is delusional. The OWS are trying to help - people. sm
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That poster is either in the top 1% to 2% or just naive enough to believe the propaganda the Republications and Fox News.

I'm sure not every group is perfect, but where I live, their main concern was the greedy bankers/Wall Street, trying to help the other 99% of us who aren't being heard.

I think lumping all occupiers into 1 category is - unwarranted. NM

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NM

"all" the protesters don't have jobs? Umm, - most of them DO have jobs.

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They pay taxes - far too high in relation to what they make, as opposed to the pittance the rich pay (if at all), and they're protesting that fact. They're also protesting what their hard-earned tax dollars are being spent on. Or NOT spent on. Or the amount of tax dollars that are WASTED.

So if you've got a "pie" yourself, or even just a big piece of that "pie", and you're willing to sit there and watch others go under as you sit there stuffing your own pie-hole, and passing judgement on everyone else, then you and your kind need to be given some hard-knocks schooling. Or exterminated, like the vermin greedy people are.
But more and more of them are becoming - sm
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jobless because there are no jobs out there. One of the people in our OWS has TWO degrees, cannot find a job and is living out of his car.

The "job creators" would like to continue pocketing the money, instead of actually creating jobs while they cater to the Republicans.

Instead, the top 1% to 2% should have their tax cuts expire and the only way the fat cats should be able to receive any money is when they actually create jobs, and that reward should be in the form of a tax credit for actually doing SOMETHING, with the condition that those jobs are created in the USA, not some foreign country.

If the 1% elite don't like our protests, then let them - mend their ways. Let them - sm

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get their money out of our government. Let them bring our jobs back from India, Pakistan, Philippines, and China. Let them stop cheating workers on pay. Let them pay their fair share of taxes, instead of always finding a loophole, all the while laughing as OUR taxes get raised, and our pay goes down.

If they keep on ripping us all of, they can expect the Movement to continue to grow, the the 'inconveniences' we cause by our protests and port shutdowns will just be a minor blip on the screen compared to what we're capable of doing.

At least, when we're out there protesting, they can see what we're doing. It's when they can't see us anymore, and think they have chased us away, that they had better be very worried.

Occupiers are no longer taken seriously. Give it up. - They have way past worn out their welcome.nm

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Actually, what you said applies more to all the - morons sitting in Congress.

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Not to mention Wall Street, BofA, Wells Fargo, BP Oil, Walmart, Chase Bank, Bank One, Bank of the West, Mechanics Bank, RJ Reynolds, all HMO's, the President, the Vice-President, the Secretary of State, and most especially our wimpy Speaker of the House, the Senate, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, ING, Capital One Bank, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, ALL spoiled, overpaid professional basketball, baseball, hockey or football players, CEOs of most of the large companies in this country, AT&T, PG&E, Comcast, Home Depot, Best Buy, Safeway, the mayor of every major city and his/her chronies, as well as the Governor of just about every state and his/her chronies. And that's just the few I can think of. Add every large MTSO to the pot, as well, including THEIR CEOs and executives. All overpaid. All greedy. All happy to pay all that overtime to the cops, in hopes of protecting themselves from what becomes more inevitable with each passing day that they screw us. The longer they try to hold out, and the more violently they try do deal with what is now a GLOBAL movement, the harder they're going to fall.
Fine, shut all those companies down and unemploy - millions more... gee...get real.nm
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I didn't say "shut them down". Just make them - pay fair share of taxes, and - sm
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quit raping their employees.

This video says it all! ;) - One People Flash Mob (sm)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXISGHLT0Og

Here's a letter from the port truck drivers--ICs and treated like dogs--sound familiar? - Curious about all this too

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I'm fairly conservative when it comes to fiscal policies but I also think Occupy has a decent chance of evolving into a transcendant force over time. I think America is ripe for a workforce revolution--hopefully nonviolent!--in which we finally fight as a unit for our jobs to be reclaimed from corporate deregulation and offshoring, etc.

Read this letter from some representatives of the port workers.


http://occupywallst.org/article/open-letter-americas-port-truck-drivers-occupy-por/

You may just see yourselves or someone you know who have fallen into a similar situation. This is all too common in America anymore and it's time we come together and change things. I've not joined any Occupy movements but I definitely support the oppressed rising up against their oppressors with nonviolence and persistence. It CAN make things a WHOLE LOT better.

Thank you so much for posting - this link

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Who would have thought that we as MTs would have so much in commmon with these workers.

We should get together and compose our own letter. The worst that could happen is that a few people would become aware of what's going on with their medical records.

Have a good one.

I agree - Curious about all this too

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I have thought about how I would love to write a lengthy article for the New York Times or Wall Street Journal or Washington Post exposing the real story behind the squeezes in health care funding. I would interview my fellow MTs for starters, and bring to light just how vulnerable Americans' medical documentation is right now, as well as investigate just who is benefiting from this arrangement. Seems like everyone from doctors on down to us complain we can't make kind of money we once used to Although, I'm new in the MT field, I see what's happening to veteran MTs and it's appalling. I hope to make my mark in writing someday ;-).

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