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Copycat empties 50 rounds in Southern CA mall parking lot

Posted: Dec 15, 2012

Aside from sheer panic that sent hordes of screaming holiday shoppers running for cover, mall store lockdowns, a police search and investigation, no fatalities or injuries, thank goodness. The perp was taken into custody and charged with felony assault with a DEADLY weapon. Again, it was 50 rounds of live ammunition, not 50 knives or 50 Molotov cocktails. Merry Christmas from the NRA et al.

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What doe - the

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NRA have to do with a sick person doing such things? Give me a break. The weapon is only deadly when a sicko is using it.

...and NRA wants every sicko in America to have - access to assault weapons.

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NRA = - mbmt

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A crackpot organization with tremendous political influence that appeals to crackpots and will fight anyone suggesting that access to guns be limited.

Sicko's will get guns even if they are banned. - drug dealers still get drugs

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I have several guns in my home. Never, in my 50 years, have I ever shot anyone, or even thought of it.

Why cant you all accept that it is the people, not the guns. Its the drunks, not the car. Its the smokers, not the cigarettes.

Because death rates plummet dramatically with - controls, even when they can be gotten around.

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Now, why, in the middle of what a lot of conservatives think deserves a moment of at least pretend respect for the deaths of this particular little group of children (this being the proper conventional thing to do), do you continue to argue for maintaining the highest gun-death rates on the planet outside of war zones? Isn't that more than just a little hypocritical?

What is your responsibility for all the children who wouldn't have died if you and those like you hadn't opposed sensible controls? What is your responsibility for the additional deaths of children that WILL occur in future if you successfully oppose stronger gun controls?

Here's a clue: You are responsible for the results of your actions. We already have gun control laws in effect that need to be stiffened up, people still guy and own guns, and the republic is still humming along, so don't try to use that as an excuse for intransigence. This isn't some stupid team sport, and your problem isn't the Democrats. It's people like the Lanz kid and the children and adults who died at that school.

Here's a clue for you- it's not the NRA's fault - backwards typist

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Even with tighter gun control laws, criminals and/or the mentally ill will still find a way to get guns.

Because AL's mother had a lot of guns wasn't the problem. Did she ever shoot anyone? No. Did she understand her son was mentally ill? If so, why no help for him. If not, didn't anyone else in his circle realize he was mentally ill?

It's just too early to start pointing fingers and yelling for stricter gun control. It's the person behind the gun that needs to be controlled.

If there are stricter gun control laws, only the criminals and mentally ill would still get their hands on the guns and cause mayhem. The rest of society would be helpless. Look at all the home invasions...without the home owner allowed to have a gun, most of them might be killed by the invader.

From a political power standpoint, - grits

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the NRA absolutely does bear responsibility.

I was a gun apologist for awhile, having grown up in the Deep South among guns for my entire life. Looking back, though, nobody ever taught me or my siblings the first blessed thing about them. If anyone had broken in, chances are good they could have gotten hold of our guns (hunting rifles, on open display) and turned them against us as easily if not more so than we could have used them to defend ourselves.

Only as an adult did I come to realize how dangerous is our lax attitude toward guns. How many more people will have to die to drive this point home? And please don't tell me it's too early to have the discussion. A lot of families in CT, CO, AR, VA and elsewhere wish the time had come to discuss this while their loved ones were still alive.

Seriously - wheres_my_job

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I grew up in a household (upper Midwest) with a shotgun in the basement, conveniently next to a desk where the shells were in the top drawer, unlocked, AND a 007 type pistol in a desk upstairs, with the bullets in a little box next to it.

One time my older brother took the gun out and was holding it, while the rest of us kids (3 at the time) were gathered around him. We were all very young.....I remember nobody said anything, we were all just silent watching my older brother handle the gun.

Looking back now...really upsetting.

Reminds me of my BFF's friend whose 15-yo daughter accidentally - sm

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killed herself playing Russian Roulette with her teenage boyfriend. He sneaked the gun out of his parents house and brought it over to show her after school while her mom was at work. That was 17 years ago. The mom was still having trouble coping with the loss even before this happened. She lives out of town. No one has been able to contact her since Friday to see how she is processing all this. I'm so worried about her, I haven't been able to sleep at night, just thinking about what she must be going through.

There was a case like this in Detroit years back - wheres_my_job

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what were these kids thinking? Oh right - they're kids - they DON'T think. So, so painful. Then I knew a kid who was looking at a gun in a bathroom with a friend - who accidentally blew his toes off. Then this other kid.......

Oh, why am I still awake...I just don't want to go to work tomorrow....

Death rates did not plummet with the Assault Weapon ban - LeonaG

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Even though it prohibited certain kinds of semi-automatic Scary Black Rifles.

have a worthwhile conversation if that's your aim - sm

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but the "Scary Black Rifle" bit does nothing other than to escalate your post from meaningless to condescending.

There is a big, big problem here. - LeonaG

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80 million gun owners are not some little crazy fringe group that deserve to have aspersions cast on them by people who refuse to be educated.

An even bigger problem for you is the 20 deceased children - whose memory

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undoubtedly will rival every last one of those 80 million's political interests when folks like Diane Feinstein start churning out bill, after bill after bill once lame duck is a done deal. I wonder what the polls will look like after the first of the year when participants are asked to rank which issue is more of an emergency: The manufactured fiscal cliff arising out of Congressional incompetence (hint: out of sight, out of mind since Friday) or the assault weapons issue emanating from the realities of Sandy Hook carnage?

Did the assault weapons ban reduce gun deaths last time? - Or is it a feel-good?

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I agree..gun manufacturers are not a "little crazy fringe group" either - wheres_my_job

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They're a big crazy group that's been driving dialogue on guns and the second amendment (like there aren't any OTHER amendments we need to attend to - only the second matters! according to them) for far too long.

I'm a citizen, I vote, I want my views to be taken into account as well, in terms of gun policy - and they are NOT.

...and it looks like it's yours - sm

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In no way do I suggest that gun owners are a crazy fringe group. Nor do I imagine that people who disagree with you are "people who refuse to be educated". That's quite an aspersion you cast there. One would hope your marksmanship does not suffer from that same shortsightedness.

...and those who already owned an assault weapon - backwards typist

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were allowed to keep them legally. In fact, wasn't there a run on buying assault weapons in the weeks before the bill became law?

I think I remember something about it.

I think there was a "run." - LeonaG

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There was a belief that you'd never be able to buy such guns again, and a belief that the guns would rise a lot in value because of the ban.

In the wiki article: "This provision for pre-ban firearms created a higher price point in the market for such items, which still exist due to several states adopting their own assault weapons ban."

Guns are the overwhelmingly the weapon of choice for those - who would abuse them, just as

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users and dealers have drugs of choice and smokers have a brand of choice when picking their poison. It's interesting you have chosen a metaphor that include three comparative examples that produce costly public health hazards, disease, death and destruction on a massive scale.

They are arenas that society has already targeted over many decades for stigmatization via protracted educational campaigns against them that resulted in grass roots efforts to either criminalize them (in the case of drugs and in some cases, overuse of alcohol), or drastically restrict their use (cigarettes and alcohol). For those targeted for restriction, laws have applied based on age of users, locations and circumstances of allowable use, and, in the case of alcohol, even temporal restrictions involving time of day and day of the week. Another less successful method of deterrent has been escalating mega-taxation schemes.

This has been carried out via local municipal, state and federal legislative processes targeting both the abusers involved RIGHT ALONGSIDE the substances they CHOOSE to abuse. In the case of drugs, the campaign has produced the longest war in US history that cost taxpayers $1.5 trillion between 1970 and 2010, and from which all kinds of unsung human misery in the form of unspeakable violence, fatalities, and degradation of international relations while creating an explosion of brand new lucrative breeding grounds of criminal enterprise, such as human trafficking, not to mention the refugees its economic hardships have created that feeds the flight of immigrants across our borders.

Gun control reform advocates are NOT, NOT, NOT proposing such drastic measures. The sensible solutions they propose pale by comparison. Personally, I'd like to thank you for reminding us where they can look for ideas to carry out those reforms as they advance from inception to successful implementation. One thing is for sure, though. The success of the "guns don't kill, people do" buzz-buzz campaign came to an abrupt halt Friday morning in the offices, halls and classrooms of that idyllic small-town Sandy Hook ELEMENTARY school in Connecticut. We owe that much to those families and children and to those whose firearms murders so often get buried in the back pages and obituary sections of our newspapers or, worse still, go without any mention whatsoever in the broadcast media.

As a nation, we owe it to ourselves. We are BETTER than this.

I think we're arguing the wrong issue. This isn't about guns - it's about a disgraceful animosity toward

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people to their left politically, which is all Americans left of hard right. Unthinking, irrational, mean, and irrelevant of right and wrong. They were told and bought the philosophy that their enemies were those to their left, and that's the beginning and end of most issues. Identify the left and attack.

Do you think 6 and 7-year-olds are political? - old and burned out

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As a society, we MUST find some way of limiting gun access to the mentally unstable.

and also chat boards - to the mentally unstable

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just as violent

Please define "assault weapon." - LeonaG

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There is no magical gun that is an "assault weapon."

That term is only used to frighten people into thinking the gun is somehow special and can only be used to kill people.

Got news for you - ANY gun can be used to kill people.

Question for NRA-people: Why do housewives, students - & hunters need semiautomatic assault rifles?

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NRA needs to be shut down.

Oh good grief. - LeonaG

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Target shooting is a hobby for some people, as it apparently was for the unfortunate mother of the shooter. I have read that she belonged to a range.

You are aware that it is an Olympic sport, right?

Semi-automatic weapons are extremely common. Weapons that need to be manually cocked for each shot (like the pump shotgun) can shoot nearly as quickly as a semi-auto, though, in my experience. Just FYI.

I am a hobby shooter and sometime small-game hunter.

Amen. Assault rifles have NO place in society. - MTPockets

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Amen! There is no need for assault weapons to be sold to civilians. I don't care what excuse the NRA wants to use to justify owning these types of weapons. The target shooting argument is not a viable option in light of the fact that lunatics can get ahold of a gun no matter what intention the gun was purchased for. Use common sense when deciding if someone's "right" to own an assault weapon supercedes an innocent child's right to life.

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