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Posted: Mar 26, 2013

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Sickening, isn't it? - LM

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You could run for Pres too ya know. - BillyJoe

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Oh good, I was just thinking we didn't have - enough threads on this topic.

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We haven't even started on Obama breakfasts-- - with the price of bacon what it is?! nm

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He's not allowed to eat bacon - is he? - nm

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Did you want to talk about prayer breakfast where he - was made to look like the fool he is?

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There you guys go. Run with it! Maybe toss in an - allusion to ribs, slobby eating, uh... ? nm
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What?? I guess you didn't see Dr. Ben Carson (sm) - me
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talk about what a mess Obamacare is - and offered good solutions. Watch it. you might learn something. That's what I was referring to.
I didn't care much for Carson's - Fanatical Hypocrite
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suggestions. He seemed like a nice guy, a caring doctor and I think he spoke from the heart, so I have nothing against him. Yet his oft touted policies leave something to be desired. They are deficient in real numbers or facts, instead offering only concepts. Nothing wrong with a concept obviously, but saying "I want to live in a house," is a long way from designing, building and maintaining a home.

For those that didn't see it, his main theme centered around replacing the current taxation system with the Biblical tithe concept. Everyone would pay 10% of their income, regardless whether you made 10 dollars or 10 billion. That would make the system fair. As I said when that was news and as I stand by now, that is not fair. That is mathematically fair. Philosophically fair. But in real life that isn't fair. A billion dollars to someone who has ten is nothing. Let's say 20,000 a year is a living wage, 9 billion dollars still leaves them with 450,000 living wages to... well... live. Where if you take that 20,000 dollar living wage and take out 2,000 dollars, you now have 2,000 dollars below a living wage.

The tithe system is a remnant of the feudal era. A method from the Bible days to the Renaissance to keep the peasant class trampled under foot.

Why should the rich pay more? Because they can afford it and because they only have more because they've been suckling at the teat of the government while robbing the working class. You can't have a pyramid without the bottom layers. Does the tax code need re-working? Yes. When filing your taxes should you use the Bible instead of TurboTax? Probably not.

One of his other major ideas was that instead of health insurance, you could have a health investment account. Like a little savings account for future medical expenses. If I put 100% of all income in the bank for 10 years and then got cancer once, I'd still be broke, so how that helps anyone who isn't making doctor wages is questionable. Also, when it's voluntary, people don't do it. Then they can't pay their medical bills. Then the hospital has to treat them. Then you're paying for it anyway. So, in other words, ObamaCare or no, you pay for everyone who is sick in this country.

Basically, while his ideas sound all folksy and common sensey, and while I believe he believes it would work and only wishes to help, I see his views as deeply misguided and amateurish.

Regarding the whole vacation topic, who cares? Every president takes vacations. This one takes less than some... [cough, cough] Yet the same people seem to feel no indignation that the top 1% are riding around on private yachts and eating gold while millions of hard working Americans live in their cars and starve.
Speaking of Dr. Ben Carson and starving Americans... - sa
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[edit]:  Sorry, video got taken down.  See link.  The bit starts at about 3:11 (but all 4+ minutes are worth watching).

The man's a fool. Take 1 free on-line MOOC econ course and - find out why in the first couple of weeks.
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BTW, the good doctor is not some typical citizen who graduated high school 30 years ago and enjoys spouting off on economics with his friends after dinner. He's an educated man who should well understand the need to know what he's talking about, and that he would still suggest this nonsense raises serious questions in my mind about what's going on in his.

At least their vacations are monthly (really?) and - not month long!

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We've all seen this cool pic of Dubblya coming home from his month-long stay at the ranch, don't we?


oops... meant "haven't" - not "don't"

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correcting myself here.

Prove it. Link? - nm

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nm
It's not exactly a secret. - Nacho
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121420&page=1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201703.html

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/august01/2001-08-03-bush-vacation.htm

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/08/06/bush.crawford/index.html

And now I feel like an idiot for doing your homework. Congratulations.

Seriously??!? It's the pic of Dubblya looking down over NO - right after Katrina
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Poor baby had to cut his month-long vaca at the ranch short by 2 days. The pic is well known.
And that's as close as he got until he was shamed - by an outraged nation into helping the coast.nm
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I thought it was. Just wanted to catch them at their lies (sm) - me
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Ask some people from Staten Island how they're making out after Sandy all these months later with Obo blowing smoke up their collective arses.
What lies? - nm
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Saying that was him coming back from a month in Crawford. - Lie.
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No, it's isn't a lie. - Nacho
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That photo IS of him coming back from a month in Crawford. He's looking at Katrina wreckage from the plane, as Katrina happened at the tail end of his vacation. He's flying back to Washington in that photo. It's famous.

I don't know what else to tell you, other than it's not a great idea to argue just to argue when you don't know the facts.
Don't know how else to say it. - Prove it.
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I'll give this. Now you have to do your own research. - Nacho
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CRAWFORD, TX: Day 29 of ranch vacation (28 days at ranch)



 


Arrives TSTC Waco and Marine One back to the ranch.


 


 



President Bush looks out the window of Air Force One inspecting damage from Hurricane Katrina en route back to the White House.


/ AP/SUSAN WALSH

Wed Aug. 31 ***Bush ends working vacation and departs for DC***

 


 


CRAWFORD, TX: Day 30 of ranch vacation (29 days at ranch)


 


In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Bush ends his ranch vacation two days early, departing about 1010am/CT by Marine One to TSTC Waco and boards


AF-1. On the way back to DC, AF-1 flies over New Orleans, Gulfport, Biloxi and Mobile, giving Mr. Bush an aerial view of some of the flooding and destruction. He spents 35 minutes looking out the left side of the aircraft.


The comments don't even go with the picture! - LOL - cut and paste
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Already posted down below. - SM
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Here are the article links again, and hyperlink below takes to original post. It's kind of scary to see something so historical being denied.


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=George_W._Bush:_Hurricane_Katrina

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9132021/#.UVIF9BeN5yc

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-05/bush-calls-new-orleans-flyover-in-wake-of-hurricane-katrina-huge-mistake-.html
and here - ...
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stop calling people liars - pretty please
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She didn't call anyone a liar. She just said - she doesn't believe the pic
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is of him coming back from Crawford.

I believe it is of him on his way to DC.

But jeepers man, just get a thick skin and move on. Don't keep fueling it. Just get a thick skin and let it go. If you keep posting they keep coming back.
"Just wanted catch -them- at their lies'' (first post talking about lies) - baloney (nm)
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So what - it's her opinion and she is entitled to that - Get a thick skin and move on
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Instead of whining just move on. This is a political board. You need to have a thick skin.
We're not allowed to call posters liars, even when they - obviously are, but pointing out that sources
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contain lies--when they do--is essential to discussion. And they so pathetically often do.

Of course, after a while a poster may feel that calling her sources dishonest implies something about her and start taking it personally, but that's the way it goes. A fix for this syndrome is always available to her.
you have to click on the post to open it - fyi
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You seem to be confused. Whose ''lies''? - sm
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President George W. Bush was nearing the end of a month-long vacation at his Crawford, Texas, ranch on August 29, 2005, when Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf Coast of the United States.


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=George_W._Bush:_Hurricane_Katrina





IMAGE: BUSH VIEWING NEW ORLEANS FROM PLANE

Jim Watson  /  AFP - Getty Images
President Bush looks out of Air Force One Wednesday as it flies over New Orleans.





updated 8/31/2005 6:56:50 PM ET




President Bush said Wednesday that his administration was moving quickly to save lives and provide sustenance to uncounted victims of Hurricane Katrina, but that it "will take years" to recover from the storm that laid waste to the Gulf Coast.


"We're dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history," Bush said at a news conference hours after an aerial tour of the area.


"This is going to be a difficult road," he added, and made it clear the impact could broaden well past the four states along the battered coast.


"Our citizens must understand this storm has disrupted the capacity to make gasoline and to distribute gasoline," the president said.


Run-down of actions 
Flanked by senior members of his administration, Bush ran down a list of actions already taken to help victims of the storm.


He said, for example, buses were on the way to help take thousands of storm refugees from the overwhelmed Superdome in New Orleans to the Astrodome in Houston.


Medical teams had been deployed, as have search-and-rescue teams, the president said. 
The Coast Guard had already rescued nearly 2,000 people, he added.


Bush said the Pentagon as well was contributing to the rescue and relief operations, and said he had instructed Energy Secretary Sam Bodman to work with refineries to "alleviate any shortage through loans."


In addition to the government's efforts, Bush encouraged Americans to donate money to help  recovery efforts.


Presidential fly-over


Bush cut short his working vacation in Texas by two days to fly over the devastated region.


His plane flew over New Orleans at about 2,500, and it descended even further, to about 1,700 feet, over Mississippi. Bush surveyed the damage from a couch near the left front of the plane.


The plane flew over New Orleans, then traveled along the coast to Mobile, Miss., before turning north toward Washington.


“It’s totally wiped out,” Bush remarked as the modified Boeing 747 moved east past Slidell, a Louisiana community reduced to a pile of rubble and sticks.


“It’s devastating, it’s got to be doubly devastating on the ground,” Bush said, according to his spokesman Scott McClellan.  ....


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9132021/#.UVIF9BeN5yc




Bush Says New Orleans Flyover After Katrina a `Huge Mistake'










Former President George W. Bush said he made a “huge mistake” in not stopping in Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina and in allowing photographers to take pictures of him looking at New Orleans as he flew over the city.


The image, taken on board Air Force One, made him look “detached and uncaring,” Bush said in an interview scheduled for broadcast on NBC next week in connection with the Nov. 9 release of the former president’s book, “Decision Points,” about his time in office.






This Aug. 31, 2005 file photo shows U.S. President George W. Bush looking out the window of Air Force One as he flies over New Orleans, Louisiana, surveying the damage left by Hurricane Katrina. Photographer: Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images





Bush was criticized for the federal government’s botched response to the 2005 storm that devastated New Orleans and other parts of the Gulf of Mexico coast and for not going to the area soon after the hurricane hit.


“I should have touched down in Baton Rouge, met with the governor and walked out and said, ‘I hear you. We understand. And we’re going to help the state and help the local governments with as much resources as needed,’” said Bush, 64, according to excerpts from the interview with Matt Lauerscheduled to air at 8 p.m. New York time on Nov. 8.


In his book, Bush writes that a low point in his presidency was a remark by rapper Kanye West shortly after Katrina hit that the government’s response to the disaster showed Bush “doesn’t care about black people.” ...




 


 


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-05/bush-calls-new-orleans-flyover-in-wake-of-hurricane-katrina-huge-mistake-.html




I don't care. President Bush worked hard and deserved his vacations - Here are some facts for ya'll

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From your pic (which by the way President Bush looks sadly at the destruction clearly worried about the people he serves), the article states:


In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Bush ends his ranch vacation two days early, departing about 1010am/CT by Marine One to TSTC Waco and boards


AF-1. On the way back to DC, AF-1 flies over New Orleans, Gulfport, Biloxi and Mobile, giving Mr. Bush an aerial view of some of the flooding and destruction. He spents 35 minutes looking out the left side of the aircraft.


Back at the White House, he meets with his task force on the hurricane response, and then in the rose garden, makes a statement vowing a massive relief operation.


But he says "this recovery will take a long time. this recovery will take years."


Thu Sept. 1 WH. Bush has usual briefings. His schedule dominated by Katrina response including a 10a meeting with DefSec Rumsfeld and Gen Myers. Bush discusses the economic impact in a lunch meeting with Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan. Then discusses it with his economic team.


At 2p, Bush meets with his dad and former pres Clinton - who agreed to help raise private contributions for hurricane relief, as they did for the tsunami that struck Asia late last year.


In another article:


Bush Cuts Texas Vacation Short to Oversee Hurricane Response


CORONADO, Calif., Aug. 30 -- As the devastation from Hurricane Katrina grew clearer Tuesday, President Bush decided to cut short his month-long vacation and return to Washington to oversee the response to what the White House called "one of the most devastating storms in our nation's history."


"This morning, our hearts and prayers are with our fellow citizens along the Gulf Coast who have suffered so much from Hurricane Katrina," Bush said at the beginning of his speech at a naval base here. "These are trying times for the people of these communities. . . . The federal, state and local governments are working side by side to do all we can to help people get back on their feet, and we have a lot of work to do."


Bush makes statement and discusses gasoline shortage and soaring prices - urging Americans to use energy prudently declaring "don't buy gas if you don't need it."


Later in the day, WH announces Pres Bush is asking congress for a supplemental appropriation of $10.5 billion for hurricane relief


My notes:


There are some major differences between the two.


1.  When America suffered, President Bush ended his vacations, if he was on any, at the time.


2.  When America suffers Obama takes a vacation.


1.  Cost of President Bush to take a trip to Crawford Texas approx. 1,611,000 (and he would work)


2.  Cost of Obama to take a trip just one trip  around 5,000,000.


1.  First Lady Laura Bush took one (1) vacation a year.  To a camping lodge in Washington with her friends. 


2.  Michelle Obama has taken over 42 vacation days and spent over $10m (MILLION) in our taxpayers money for her perpetual vacations and that was just in the first year or so.


The thing is not who took more vacations, who played more golf.  The thing is while Rome is burning the emporer keeps going on vacations. 

Wrong - BillyJoe

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First Lady Laura Bush took one(1) vacation a year. Check out these photos.

I see these:

Germany and Russia August 11, 2006
Costa Rica May 9, 2006

Visit to Asia 2005
Visit to Latin America 2005
Visit to Europe
Visit to the the Vatican 2005

ALL Presidents vacation and ALL their families vacation. This First Family is denigrated like no other in history and its SHAMEFUL. Karma will get the haters though, I've no doubt.
Those were not personal vacations. They were official business - much differrent. I'm still correct
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She took 1 personal vacation each year.

Unlike Michelle, who I don't believe any of her vacations have been anything but personal.

Wanna try again

I don't see a photo or link or anything, - nm

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There isn't one. - Nacho

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So unless you're interested in googling the Drudge Report and giving them a hit on their website, it will remain a mystery. :)

It can remain a mystery then. Thanks. - nm

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Your lucky - I'm one of the fools that went there. Got nauseated seeing the pic - almost threw up
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your better off not going.
admitting it is the first step to recovery - nm
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I'll be fully recovered in 4 years (hopefully sooner) - Thanks - nm
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For those who can't be bothered, it's a typical family - picture, mom, dad, two children heading out. nm
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On their monthly vacation - and this family is certainly not - a "typical" family
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You do know he is the president don't you.  They are not your typical family.  Typical family's do not take multi-million dollar vacations every month.


 

Hope they have a great time! - Work hard, play hard.

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They deserve to go on vacation for spring break.

Not monthly vacations - And they don't work hard

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Tell ya what. Ya love them being on vacation every month why don't you send a large part of your paycheck to pay for it.

Otherwise Louis and Marie need to cut back a little bit.

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