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Bernie's Top Ten


Posted: Mar 28, 2011

Sanders compiled a list of some of some of the 10 worst corporate income tax avoiders.

 1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

 2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.

 3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the IRS.

 4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

 5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last year.

 6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

 7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

 8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

 10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11 billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years was just 1.1 percent.

 Sanders has called for closing corporate tax loopholes and eliminating tax breaks for oil and gas companies. He also introduced legislation to impose a 5.4 percent surtax on millionaires that would yield up to $50 billion a year. The senator has said that spending cuts must be paired with new revenue so the federal budget is not balanced solely on the backs of working families.

Sanders said it is grossly unfair for congressional Republicans to propose major cuts to Head Start, Pell Grants, the Social Security Administration, nutrition grants for pregnant low-income women and the Environmental Protection Agency while ignoring the reality that some of the most profitable corporations pay nothing or almost nothing in federal income taxes.

 "We have a deficit problem. It has to be addressed," Sanders said, "but it cannot be addressed on the backs of the sick, the elderly, the poor, young people, the most vulnerable in this country. The wealthiest people and the largest corporations in this country have got to contribute. We've got to talk about shared sacrifice."

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Bernie's Top 10 - sm

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Of course there are the people on here who think this is just fine because they earned that money and why should they pay more. After all, look at all the jobs they are creating. Yeah Right! It has always been on the backs of the middle class and always will unless people out there open their eyes to reality.

Well, you are partially right.... - Indy

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They do employ hundreds of thousands of people. That is indisputable. And if the tax loopholes are closed (which I think they should be, for EVERYONER), then two things will happen...layoffs and taking jobs overseas until you can convince the stockholders (who have to okay bonuses and pay for the CEO) that it is not necessary that the company make such massive profits (which equal good dividend checks)...so many things are intertwined. There are a lot of middle class people who, through their 401Ks, are stockholders and some middle class retired folks who like those big dividend checks. So, be careful what you ask for because when that snowball starts downhill it is going to pick up a lot of folks with it.

All that being said...I am definitely for a straight percentage flat tax across the board as an income tax, but then you have corporate tax....totally different than income tax. I personally think that you just tax the company on its profits, a flat percentage, just like you do individuals. No loopholes, no nothing. It would certainly save money because you wouldn't need a bazillion IRs agents...all you would need is clerical folks to input the forms.

The fault does not lie with the corporations...because they, just like you, will take every deduction available to cut down on their taxes. The problem likes with the tax code and tax law and Congress are the only ones who can fix it. So Bernie...stop preaching to the choir and get after the flat tax, because I think EVERYBODY who makes income should pay tax on it. No one should be excluded. That would remedy the income into the government he is concerned about...and there still need to be cuts...any kind of welfare should have an end to it. People who are able to work should not be subsidized by the middle class EITHER.

I think they really could pay their fair share and no more than their fair share - just like the rest of us

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but I agree with you that the flat tax might help, if they can't figure out a way to get around that too.
There is no getting around it if there are no - loopholes. And only
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Congress can close them through tax reform law.
But can't they hide the income though. That's what I fear - Corporate Welfare Will Survive!
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The only way we keep things running in our country is by paying a certain amount (admittedly too much right now) of taxes, for building, maintaining, and repairing infrastructure, etc. The big corporations will find a way to hide income so they don't have to pay any taxes. Corporate Welfare will continue. I really believe that.

Ouch! And I own stock in 5 of those. :( - Sigh!

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That's not good. I believe in shared sacrifice. Those companies are taking advantage of every loophole they can. Even though it would cost me money as a stockholder, I would rather they would pay their fair share. I would rather start there in fixing our deficit rather than taking food out of the mouths of babies. Then there is the idea that some have that we should lower the minimum wage! Let's get the big guys to pay their share first.

Can we find stock for "responsible" companies? - How can we change that?

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I have been thinking about this for some time, also. I have to invest wisely if I want to have any kind of a retirement--I don't have any inheritance or big bucks in the family. But, how can I invest when the companies that are the most profitable are also the ones who are so unethical? Any ideas? The companies need to be rewarded for not paying huge CEO salaries and not outsourcing, or making huge money from disasters and wars. They need to be rewarded for being a "good citizen of the planet." I don't know if any exist.

I agree with you. I don't really know how to do that though - Although See Message

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Morningstar.com has a rating system and I think they have a stewardship rating. I've always wondered exactly what that means. I need to check into it.

The stock market has little to do with morality. - And the stock market is

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the worst investment vehicle and will get even worse. These companies and the ones doing well have been propped up by bailouts. The "ups" in the stock market recently have nothing to do with a growing economy but with propped up markets.

If you can get all the thousands of other - Indy

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stockholders who like their dividend checks to agree with you, you might be able to get it done though I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. There are people who are not rich but have retired and like those dividend checks. They want the company to make maximum profit. Any if you are a CEO charged with making that profit, you are not going to keep your job if you DON'T take every loophole available to you.

Which brings us right back to Congress...they need to change the tax law. Only THEY can do that. Instead of screeching about what the republicans want to cut, why don't the Democrats take on tax law?? You can't take a loophole if there isn't one.

Which means it is all re-election rhetoric, they really don't want to fix anything, they just want to point fingers at the Republicans for at least talking about cutting spending when the deficit grows by the hundreds of thousands pretty much daily. Have you looked at that deficit counter? THAT is something to be worried about.

The deficit goes up whenever we have a Republican president - sm

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We're having to deal with that right now. This last time almost broke us so badly that I'm not sure we can be fixed.
Hate to say this, but Obama is President, Last I looked, he wasn't - Backwards Typist
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a Republican. The current deficit problems are the mess Obama got us into with the Health Care Act, stimulus, and yes, bailouts. After all, he voted for the bailouts, too.
How about Bernanke? How about Bush bail - outs? How about
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charging Iraq to China and paying interest on that debt? How about the Medicare Reform Act that went unfunded and that added to the deficit over 1 trillion and that funded PRIVATE Medicare accounts with your money? Obama wanted to end that and all the morons in this country thought he was ending Medicare.
How about Democrats raiding the Social Security - fund the first time and
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started the borrowing and never paying it back and THAT is why Social Security is in the trouble it is in?? They STOLE what was supposed to be our retirement. They are hardly pure as the driven snow.

HOw about Barney Frank and Chris Dodd single-handedly causing the bad paper on wall street by encouraging bad loans to people who could not afford them to buy houses, with the Republicans and the Bush admin begging them not to? The direct cause of our economic status right now?

Morons? Couldn't resist that shot?

How about Obama ending the war like he promised? Two years down the road and all he has done is take a few troops out of Iraq and send them to Afghanistan. And still we don't have bin Laden. How many more lives and billions are we going to spend hunting for him (that is Obama's excuse for why we are escalating the war in Afghanistan.

What about the millions per day it costs us to "help" with Libya? Who is paying for that?

No moral high ground for the Democrats on the economy or spending.

Yes, he inherited a deficit, as did several Presidents before him. However, no one has forced him to double the spending Bush did during 8 years in 2. No one forced him to add the unfunded Obamacare to the deficit, in spite of what the majority of the country wanted. No one forced him to do cash for clunkers. And the list goes on.

What needs to happen is people to stop pointing fingers at the other guy, everybody to agree that no matter HOW we got here, we are here, and we need to address the deficit. We need to cut costs. We simply cannot afford to spend like we have been spending...it is simple math.

I am neither Republican nor Democrat, was pretty disgusted with both until the mid-terms, but at least the Republicans are, right now, acting like they understand what the majority of the country said...address the deficit and CUT spending.

We will see how it plays out.
I think you've been spending too much time on Fox News - Jury is still out on most of that
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I will agree that we need to cut costs. Most of the things you claim in your message are questionable and subject to a biased view. That's okay. No problem with that. We all have our opinions. Just don't expect us to accept them as fact, as I'm sure you don't, so that's not an insult. You have every right to your opinions, as do the rest of us.
You should google before you put - your foot in your mouth...
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Here is the language of the ammendment in the 60s to the social security law, democratically controlled congress, when they raided the trust fund to pull funds for Medicare/Medicaid, not originally part of Social Security...

Amendments of the 1960s
Brochure from 1961 with basic advice about Social Security cards (pages 1 and 4)
Same brochure (pages 2 and 3)In 1961, retirement at age 62 was extended to men, and the tax rate was increased to 6.0%.

Medicare and Medicaid were added in 1965 by the Social Security Act of 1965, part of President Lyndon B. Johnson's "Great Society" program. Social Security was changed to withdraw funds from the independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the General Fund for additional congressional revenue. And they have continued to dip in, using this law as the means to do it, only money going everywhere now.


The government adopted a unified budget in the Johnson administration in 1968. This change resulted in a single measure of the fiscal status of the government, based on the sum of all government activity.[46] The surplus in Social Security trust funds offsets the total debt, making it appear much smaller than it otherwise would.

About those surpluses...the Republicans wanted to protect them from the Democrats but were unsuccessful:

Democrats on social security raiding:
http://www.socialsecuritylawfirms.com/regional-content.cfm/state/dc/Article/92971/Democrats-Vote-to-Raid-Social-Security.html

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/stopping-the-social-security-raid/50792/

The jury has been in on this for a long time, friend. You just don't acknowledge it. The Dems not only raided it, they blocked the Republicans trying to protect it.

So you see, those freebies they like to give away...we are all paying for now and for generations to come who may never see a dime of what they have paid in.

Thank you so much, Democrats, for looking out for we in the middle class (and in case anyone has in trouble in determining it, I am being VERY sarcastic).
I agree. That China debt is worrisome. It may be the worse thing Bush did - I know Bush did his best but
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Bush tried. He just wasn't up to being President. I think he did it as kind of a lark. He loved being in a position of power, 'the Decider', and we are all paying for that. I don't think he meant to be that bad. He did the best he could. He just wasn't up to it.
Remember when Bush said that being President was "Hard!"?! - I am sure he was right about that
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Being President is hard. He didn't know that before he was elected. That was the problem. We have others right now who think it would just be fun. I think they would have the same results he did. I don't think the country would survive.
Obama stated that being the head of China would be - Backwards Typist
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be easier than being President of the USA only a month or two ago. He had no idea how a country is run before running for office and now that he does, he's not happy about it.

Truthfully, if he keeps it up, he might just outdo Bush's record of vacation days. He certainly has outdone him on partying in the WH.
And Obama continues to indebt us more - to China and acts like a
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kid in a candy store as far as spending goes, with about as much insight into responsibility as that.

The point here should NOT who is responsible for us being here, because they are ALL responsible...the point is stop pointing fingers and yelling fault, just gtet together and FIX IT.

Geez.
What about Bernanke? What about the Bush Bailouts? - Backwards Typist
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Charging Iraq to China and paying interest on that debt? Which Medicare Reform Act; the 2003, 2008, or 2009?

How about letting me in on the secret of your questions.

You forgot that Bush arranged for the bailout before he left office - and left the HUGE deficit
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It's going to take us years to recover from the Bush Deficit. Much of it was because of long war in Iraq. Remember, "It will be a cakewalk." Wasn't that Rumsfeld? (sp) They told us Iraq would be easy. We would get in and get out. No big deal. That was in 2003.

THAT is your deficit right there, but that was only part of it. We had a SURPLUS when Bush came into office.

Please google the Clinton surplus myth... - and you will find out that
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that is exactly what it was. A myth.
Yes, Bush had started the first bailouts, which Barack Obama, as a senator, came back from the campaign trail to vote FOR. So, it should hardly have surprised him and it is a bit disingenuious of him to now squeal about bailouts he made possible.

Obama also promised to end Iraq war within 90 days beccause it was costing too much. Last time I looked, still there, still costing billions per day. He escalated the war in Afghanistan. Still going on, billions every day. He said it was justified because that is where bin Laden is and we are "hunting" him. Well, he is having no better luck than Bush did, than Clinton did...oh yes, during Clinton administration they were hunting bin Laden, actually almost had him in their hands and let him go...imagine what would have happned if there had been no 9-11? It Clinton had taken bin Laden when he could have, that might have been avoided. THAT would certainly have helped the deficit and two wars, wouldn't it?

Obama trumped the bailout with his stimulus bill. That helped him spend more money in 2 years than Bush did in 8, INCLUDING the bailout.

Sorry...Obama and the Democrats have NO high ground to stand on regarding the deficit OR the spending...in fact, they don't seem to understand either of those kinda critical items at ALL.
I think everybody agreed on those bailouts because the options were unthinkable - The bailouts were probably necessary
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My feeling about those bailouts is that we probably did have no other options. We were at the edge of a cliff. Most politicians and statesmen agreed on that one. It was distasteful, but unavoidable.

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