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After that speech, I bet Putin is shaking in his KGB boots.

Posted: Jul 21, 2014

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A community organizer versus the KGB, - what a joke. nm

You really listen to Lindsey Graham? - eom.

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He also said this a while back . . . “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
--Washington Post, August 29, 2012
So you embrace a person who believes that "generating enough angry white guys to stay in business" as someone who thinks along the same lines as you? Interesting.

I can't stand Lindsey Graham. This post - is confusing. NM

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NM

My post was in response - eom.

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to the person who said "community organizer versus kgb - what a joke." Not sure if the poster is saying Lindsey Graham (he's the person who made the community organizer/kgb comment) or if President Obama is a joke. The quote I put in my post is a comment that Lindsey Graham made during the election. If the poster is thinking that Lindsey Graham is someone who is smart, perhaps should think again. I can't stand Lindsey either.

I think a lot of people have said that, not just - Graham. First I've heard of it, nm

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Dang, I missed it. - What did old wise one say this time?

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Was it drawing more imaginary pretend red lines in the sand or did he tell more lies to grow that nose?

Both. - NM

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More hard hitting sanctions to come.... - like banning the import

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Matryoshka dolls.

"...and get serious about” about resolving the conflict in Ukraine, Obama said ...He IS getting serious, bozo, they shot down a civilian aircraft and nobody is going to do anything about it..................

This is not the America we grew up in - mouseketeers, we are

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weak and the world knows it. They no longer look to us for leadership. That America does not exist anymore.

Who trusts us anymore anyway? We had a treaty with - Ukraine to defend them

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from Russia if they would disarm (going back to Clinton). Well, that didn't work out did it?

Yes, the America we knew would have dropped the bomb already... - :-/ NM

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Jonestown v2.0. - NM

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You are right. Putin is a tyrant and no matter what threats were thrown out there, he - wouldn't care

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Obama was right in being measured yet stern in his statement. Would you prefer he threaten a nuke on Russia? What could he have said that you wouldn't criticize him? Don't waste your time answering because the answer is clear. Nothing!

Alexis de Toqueville was right. Now I - see what he meant. nm

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Back when we had a leader...Reagan after - Soviet attack on Korean plane...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VA4W1wDMAk

Got a thumbs down already, that video is 16 minutes - long, obviously you didn't

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even bother watching it.

Reagan 1983 - 30 years later

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You might consider what was going on at the time when the Korean jet liner was shot down. (there were 61 Americans on board)

We were supplying the Afghani rebels in a fight against the Soviets. We already had a lot of injustice against the Soviets to "right."

At this point, in 2014, we have been coming into a period of disturbance with Russia (no longer the Soviet Union). Russia now is trying to gain momentum within its own previous territory. We are supportive of Ukrainian independence, but how far should that go, particularly in reviewing past failures of propping up resistance to Soviet aggression and the dubious governments we have supported to try to effect this.

In the 1980s the U.S. (Reagan Doctrine) was trying to prevent the spread of communism. We did this by backing several questionable causes such as the Afghans (eventually creating the vaccum from which came the Talibam and bin Laden) and the Contras in Nicaragua

Just months after this speech about the Korean Air Liner our base was hit in Lebanon.

I would prefer we back people we know are our allies, not just the assumption of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Oh, and the performance issue Obama v. Reagan. Well, Reagan was an actor and had 18 days to prepare that response. Obama is a politician (an actor of sorts) and has had the weekend.

Reagan's ruling years are when this country - started going rapidly DOWNHILL. nm

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Ted Kennedy went to the Soviet Union and - tried to undermine Reagan,

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the FBI has files. There were secret communications between Kennedy and the Soviets discussing strategy to undermine the President of the United States (Reagan).

I was going to ask where you - find this stuff

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But, it seems that all sorts of right wing watch groups have published on it. I particularly liked the comment

Why would you believe the KGB?

Just an FYI... - sm

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I just googled "ted kennedy undermined ronald reagan" and got 2,170,000 results. They can't all be "right wing watch groups" now, can they? Do you think there just might be a little bit of truthful history there, or could it be in the history books that the left wing propagandists want erased from American history as part of their indoctrination of youth?

I admit I looked at the first page - sm

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From what I read it came from a KGB memorandum and sort of got discredited from there, but I'll look some more. I never had much "love" for Ted Kennedy.

If you want to go back in history to the 1980s, - the then Soviet Union

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promoted revolutionary violence and instability throughout the third world. In the Middle East, Moscow backed Syria, supported Palestinian terrorism, and tried turning Nicaragua into a military base.

Reagan reported to the Congress seven proven arms treaty violations, including an ICBM and construction of an outlawed missile defense battle management radar.

With Reagan we had a strong U.S. defense. I felt safe when he was president.

Reagan also wanted to protect the U.S. against - a nuclear attack from the Soviets

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and proposed the Strategic Defense Initiative, which Ted Kennedy mocked and called Star Wars. Luckily, it backfired and people loved the name.

Unfortunately, the funding for this was stopped during Clinton's presidency, so the U.S. has no defense.

I blame Ted Kennedy for a lot of things. His constant undermining of Reagan was treasonous.

Isn't the undermining of Obama by Republicans - equally treasonous, then?

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Yin and Yang, and all that good stuff.

The point is that the "safe feeling" - was creating a mess

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That we are still affected by 30 years later.

I also felt safe when Reagan was president. - sm

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I went to his library a couple years ago and had an even deeper appreciation of what he meant to America. He will definitely go down in history as one of the best. I wish we had a president with a backbone now. I don't even care which party, just someone with a spine. Obama has weakened this country more than ever. That's what we get from having someone with no experience. His only prior political experience was being a senator for 10 minutes. What a joke. Yes, the joke is on America and all the people who fell for his BS propaganda to get elected. Twice. He will go down in history as the biggest charlatan known to man.

Me too. He's the first President I ever voted for, - and I agree about wanting

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someone with a backbone. Can you image what the media will do to whoever is the Republican candidate in 2016? They are overwhelmingly Democrat, something like 90%.

Did you feel safe with Bush, the first or second? - sm

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Was it just the warm cuddly, grandfather feeling you got from Reagan? Yes, those were the days.

Frankly, I wept when Nixon resigned, I was young and emotional. Ughh, and then there was Carter. And I actually voted for Reagan, but, in retrospect, I think he he did great harm to foreign policy and economic policy. I voted purely on a strong foreign policy. I have since decided that that was a charade and that our meddling in other countries' civil unrest was not the right thing to do.

I still have the "Time Is Now" poster from the election night win in 1980. Someone, somewhere, might want it.

Did you know he almost brought up to WW III by his war games? - and

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The Russians thought they were real. They built up their military and that's exactly all Reagan needed to invest ONE THIRD of the budget in the military when there was absolutely no war going on.

You really need to research the damage the Actor really did and how lucky we are that we didn't end up in WW III.

Ted Kennedy redux. - NM

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NM

Not me. Even back then, it was easy to see that - "trickle-down economics" werent working.

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He was all into focusing everyone's attention on Russia, and slowly but surely, the middle class was starting to disintegrate.

History dictates otherwise. - NM

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Reagan answered the call. Obama blamed - Bush. NM

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Reagan heard voices - nm

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Reagan was a mouthpiece - actor.

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Mommy!

...bought and paid for by Greed, Inc. - ;)

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