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Posted: Nov 18, 2009
From SNOPES:
The photograph is real, although it has erroneously been attributed to a number of different legislative bodies, from the U.S. Congress to a variety of state legislatures. The picture was actually snapped in the Connecticut House of Representatives on 31 August 2009 by photographer Jessica Hill, while Rep. Larry Cafero was delivering a lengthy speech on the state budget. The photo was captioned by the Associated Press as follows:
My actions were inexcusable. I do want my constituents to know that my poor judgment for a few moments in no way means I ignored your interests in representing you on this very serious matter. Over the past seven months, as a member of the General Assembly's Finance Committee, I have participated fully in the budget process and have played an active role in crafting a budget that provides the necessary services that our communities so desperately need while at the same time minimizing any negative impact on the city of Bridgeport and its people.
I sincerely apologize to each of you. I look forward to having the continued privilege of representing you and your interests in Hartford. I thank you in advance for your understanding and have been humbled by those of you who have already expressed your understanding and forgiveness.
Wow.. and they dont have time to READ THE BILL..dogs.nm - Independent
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This is a photo of the CONNECTICUT STATE (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]Lesgislature. They're not the U.S. CONGRESS, the guys in Washington, who will be VOTING on the bill. Sheesh!
What's the difference, they are all the same! - nm
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Gee I wish my work paid me to play solitaire - just me
[ In Reply To ..]The whole lot of them disgusts me. I don't know who they are and could care less what party they belong to. They should be reprimanded and big time. This is what my tax dollars are paying for?????
Yes, this is what your tax dollars are paying for - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]but only if you LIVE IN CONNECTICUT. I'm sure you also receive federal aid, and if you don't want it, I'm sure Mr. Lieberman might be able to help cut that amount down. It would make his job easier, and then HE might have time to play video card games.
same as DC - cj
[ In Reply To ..]Have you ever visited the House or the Senate or DC? This is exactly what goes on. Watch on C-SPAN. This picture may be Connecticut, but it most definitely does represent Congress. Been there, seen it. It is disheartening and disgusting. It is time to vote them out and start fresh.
Well, I could post a cartoon of dogs playing poker. (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]That doesn't mean it's a true depiction of the United States Congress. In this case, it was a true depiction of the CONNECTICUT legislature and will remain to be so.
You said you've seen it. Why didn't you take a photo of them playing games since you said you saw it? When you saw it, what specific game were they playing? In the meantime, if you happen to find a similar photo of the UNITED STATES Congress, please feel free to post it.
All I'm doing is making sure that if someone reads this they know it is NOT a photo that came from Washington.
a little touchy there! - cj
[ In Reply To ..]We visited DC and were privileged to be able to sit in on a session of the House. So yes, I did see it. Take pictures, though? Actually, I never thought about it but Imagine the screening process we went through prior to entry to the chamber. As I recall, cameras were not allowed. We thought it was for security purposes, but maybe this is why; because they really don't want the public to know what they are NOT doing while they are there. They don't listen to anyone speaking. They walk around, they read books, they play cards. They do all sorts of things other than pay attention. And I did not say this was a picture from Washington; I said it was the same thing as what we saw in Washington. You can choose to call me a liar if you want to. It doesn't matter one bit. I know what I saw. I would venture a guess if you asked other people who have visited the House or Senate Chambers they would have seen the same as I did.
Like I said..nothing surprises me - just me
[ In Reply To ..]Just because people don't see them doesn't mean they aren't doing it. Since most of them show little respect for the people they serve, playing solitaire is probably the highlight of their day.
I'll bet that was something to be able to sit in on a session in the House. When you see it first hand it must be an eye opener.
I apologize if I offended you. (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]My reference to dogs playing poker was meant to be a joke to kind of lighten things up. I guess I failed. I'm sorry.
As far as your being in Washington and seeing what you saw, I don't believe you are lying, and it makes perfect sense to me that cameras weren't permitted. (Maybe Washington is a little smarter than Connecticut, as you suggested.)
It seemed that some posters believed this photo was taken in Washington, and it wasn't; it was taken in Connecticut. Especially now, with all the news about the economy, healthcare, unemployment, Wall Street, etc., etc., etc. -- it's bad enough that these things are happening, but to be fair, I was just trying to point out that the photo took place in Connecticut.
As far as calling you a liar, I never felt you were lying. In looking at my post again, I feel a little foolish for asking you if you had any photos because it makes perfect sense (ESPECIALLY after 9/11, if not before) that cameras wouldn't be permitted in Congress, so I completely believe you.
Again, I sincerely apologize if I offended you.
Got it - - just me
[ In Reply To ..]I thought it was W.DC. Didn't realize it was CT. Now I understand.
With that said...I wouldn't doubt that some in DC do play solitaire, but have not seen it, so won't say I believe they do, just saying it wouldn't surprise me.
Here's a funny side note. I had to sit in jury duty for a week some years ago. The judge kept looking down at his computer and his hand was constantly moving a mouse around. All the jury people when we would meet in the room all joked that we believed the judge was playing solitaire. LOL.
Thanks for your post. (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]My little reference to the dogs playing poker was, I suppose, a failed attempt at some humor. LOL.
I also believe that the very same thing could happen in Washington and that they, too, would have the unmitigated gall to permit photos if they could. Another poster on this board wrote that she was in Washington and that cameras weren't allowed, so I guess at least they're a TAD smarter in DC than they are in Connecticut.
It seemed to me that some people thought this photo took place in DC, and I just wanted to point out it wasn't taken in DC.
As far as your experience with jury duty, I laughed out loud when I read that portion of your post. I can just imagine a judge doing that. In fact, back on 12/18/2001, a judge in Europe FELL ASLEEP during a rape trial, causing the trial to be abandoned! (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-trial-abandoned-after-judge-fell-asleep-620566.html) Wouldn't surprise me if the same thing didn't happen in our own country from time to time. I vaguely remember Cheney falling asleep during a Bush speech (I think - not sure).
Thank you for your post, and thanks for understanding my post as it was intended. My sense of humor can sometimes be so hidden in sarcasm that it's difficult to distinguish. I'll have to work on that! :-)
LOL....now that is funny - see message - just me
[ In Reply To ..]I'll bet in some circumstances jury duty could be fun. Mine was a waste of time. One week missed work. Lady accused her bf of raping her. Crying and hysterical on the stand describing word for word what he did to her (ewww). I know as a jury member your suppose to stay neutral but all I could think of was looking at the defendant "you pig...how could you do that to her".
Well...on day 5 after we arrived and sat in our seats we couldn't figure out why nobody was in court. The judge told us that early that morning the girl admitted she made the whole thing up. They had an argument and she got mad at him, so claimed he raped her. After that I just thought I hope I never get called again. Needless to say we never did ask if he was playing solitaire. LOL
ROFL! I think the only one playing "solitaire" in that case was (sm) - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]the "victim"!
I was called for jury duty once (more than 30 years ago when I was pretty young). I was selected to be a juror on a rape case, too. I'm not very proud of my actions in the case. I simply didn't believe the guy was guilty. I held up the jury for a few days in deliberation because I wouldn't cave. Finally, I DID cave because they were all getting so angry and upset with me, and I figured maybe there was something wrong with my judgment. (I really thought that this was a rape case where the girl DID make it up, like in the case you heard.)
Some years later, I was working for Legal Aid, and a guy came in, asking to see an attorney because he just got out of jail that day for a crime he never committed and he wanted a new trial and his record expunged. I kept getting the idea that I had seen this guy before but couldn't put my finger on it.
Then it hit me: He was the guy that I sent to jail for something he didn't do. He said to me, "You look familiar." I, smiling and laughing, said, "You look familiar, too." Neither of us could figure it out. (I did very SUDDENLY after he left the office.)
I actually ran into the guy again a few weeks later at the "corner store" of a neighborhood. I was asked to serve some papers on a defendant, and I wasn't familiar with the address on the papers. I stopped at the store because I knew the owner. She said she didn't know where it was at, there he was again, and he actually helped me and took me right to the person's door.
That's one thing I'll never forgive myself for. I still believe he was innocent. It makes no sense for someone to be released from serving several years in jail and being so insistent on having his name cleared and wanting a new trial instead of just getting on with his life.
For years after that, if he would see me, he would beep his horn and wave, always very friendly. I was never once afraid of the guy.
(Oh, and my coat got stolen during that trial, and the judge was nice enough to see that I was reimbursed for the cost of it.)
Peer pressure - just me
[ In Reply To ..]What a horrible thing that must have felt like. Being pressured into doing something or going along with something you don't agree with. I see stories on TV similar to what you described. I hope I never have to face what you went through. I think I'm so stubborn though I'd keep saying the opposite. The more somebody makes me mad the more I keep it up (I'm sure you can tell by some of my posts LOL) I hope he won his case though.
Please see message. - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]Yes, the peer pressure was awful, and I was very young at the time. I don't think that would happen today (ESPECIALLY after the last time) because I can't be swayed as easily today.
I honestly don't know what happened to him. Legal Aid couldn't help him and referred him to a criminal lawyer (we only did civil stuff). Like I said, I'd see him from time to time, and he would always smile and wave, leading me to hope he never put my face in that jury as where he remembered me from. Then I moved pretty far away and never saw him after that.
I'm fairly certain that at the moment of my death, his face is going to be one that I see, and I'll still feel very guilty.
You and I may not agree on some things, but I really like your spunk.
Hope you have a great weekend. :-)
Thanks - see message - just me
[ In Reply To ..]I hear ya on things we wouldn't do today (think it takes experience). In my younger years I let peer pressure get to me on a lot of things. Then I was so pressured from everyone I did a bold thing on a spur of the moment decision and joined the Army. Figured if friends were going to treat me the way they did (with peer pressure) I'd show them they can't boss me around. HA HA HA. Actually I think they ended up getting the better deal. LOL
I laughed out loud at your comment about at the moment of your death. That's funny, but aint it the truth. I'll bet the things we feel the most guilty about, at that moment we are leaving this world the creator will go .....ping! Remember this. LOL. Hey, got enough stuff in my background I feel guilty about.
Right on about not agreeing on things but I think we are respectful to each other and I like your spunk to. It's important to stick to your principles no matter what side you are on. Oh you should have seen my mom and me go at it when she was alive. She voted for Bush Sr (gag). I voted for Clinton (ok, so gag again) LOL. I just have a bad habit of when people spit at me I spit back. They say it's the Irish in me, but my feisty little grandmother was from Puerto Rico and she always taught me to never let anyone walk all over me. So it might be the combo.
Anyway...you have a good weekend too. Look forward to more "debates". :-)
Please see message. - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]First and foremost, I would like to thank you for your service to our country. Given the situation you described, it really took a lot of courage to both enlist and serve. I have the greatest respect for our soldiers and their families.
Secondly (LOL), about our respective backgrounds. I'm half Hungarian (I'm not sure what they're noteworthy of) and half Scotch-Irish. I've got that "Irish" in there, though I'm not sure if "Scotch Irish" means they drink scotch all the time, mouth off and then pass out. (Just a joke for anyone else out there who might be Scotch Irish.)
As far as voting records, both my parents were staunch Republicans. I've pretty much always been a registered Democrat until recently when I switched my party preference to "Unaffiliated." During the time I was a Democrat, though, I did vote for Republicans. It always depended on who was running and whether I agreed with their platforms. I happen to be one who needs medical insurance and don't even come close to being able to afford it. I work full time but have a chronic disease that sometimes prevents me from getting my lines in. If you're a medical transcriptionist, I'm sure you're familiar with the set-up MTSOs have regarding health insurance. I don't blame them for having that set-up, but when I can't gross enough lines, I can't afford the insurance. Like I said, I don't blame them for that set-up; in fact, it works as a great incentive to be more productive, I believe. Before I became sick, I was working two jobs and doing very well monetarily. Unfortunately, the money I was able to save was spent very quickly on medical bills.
I hope your time spent in the military is yielding you some wonderful benefits (healthcare, education assistance, etc.) because, in my opinion, you deserve them. I personally hope you're out now and safe in your home.
Again, thanks very much for your service.
I guess I'm not understanding this - just me
[ In Reply To ..]So all the congress people who play solitaire are only from CT? I was born and raised in CT, left home at 20 and haven't lived there since. I don't understand Mr. Lieberman very well. Mom said CT used to love him when he was independent. They said he was one of the few politicians they could trust to work for the people. She then said when he hooked up with that Algore character and became democrat most of CT lost faith in him because he started becoming whiny and insistently complaining (like Algore), and didn't show he cared much about the people he represented. Now I don't know whether he is R,D,or I. Just don't know much about him. Sometimes I like his ideas, other times I don't, but I just don't know much about him.
Please see message. - Nikki
[ In Reply To ..]Only the ones who were seen in the photos were from Connecticut, not DC. I'm sure the same thing happens all over the country, but with this country in such terrible shape and the US Congress to blame for most of it, I was worried that people thought that photo was from DC when it wasn't. The US Congress has enough blame to absorb, but this photo isn't of them.
If you're confused, it's understandable, in my opinion.
Joe Lieberman was a Democrat from Connecticut. He was challenged in the 2006 Senate primary campaign (in Washington, not Connecticut), and it looked like he was going to lose to a Democratic challenger, Ned Lamont, so he decided to change his party from Democratic to Independent. So now he's an ex-democrat who calls himself an independent but acts like a republican (in my opinion).
Confusing? I think so, but here's a link from back then that might help clear things up a little bit regarding Joe Lieberman's history and his plans if he lost to another democrat.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/03/AR2006070300873.html
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