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How do you strengthen your faith


Posted: Dec 4, 2011

I hope this will not be long.  I just feel lost in my faith.  I grew up in a home where we gave thanks to the Lord, we were not getting on our knees every hour saying praise the Lord :-), but we said prayers at dinner, church and sunday school every week from time I could walk til graduation in high school.  Grandma was a sunday school teacher at an episcopalean church and played the organ/piano there, we went to Sunday church dinners and stuff like that.  Then around grade 5 grandma (and us) switched churchs and starting attending a Methodist church.  Then in grade 9 we went to private sessioins with a priest from a catholic church (other grandma was catholic) and went to catholic service through high school and past.  Then I left home after high school.  I still believed all of what I grew up with.  I married, and we'll just say life has not been easy.  Every time I have a struggle I pray, my prayers are never answered.  I have an aunt who told me I'm praying wrong, so she taught me the "correct" way to pray.  I practiced that for probably 20 years.  Prayers are still never answered.  I ask that whatever struggle I am going through to do what He wants and just let me understand why.  Never an answer no matter how hard I try to understand.  For example when DH is yelling at me over something and it's not my fault (example we go to the grocery store while shopping (with my list) he says lets get steaks for dinner (not on the list), so we get them half way home I said we forgot potatoes and he lays into me and I mean big time, yelling and yelling and yelling, why do you have a list if your not going to get everything on it.  I said steaks and potatos were not on my list.  He says well after buying the steaks you should have gone right over tot he potatoes, then he goes back to yelling at me about not keeping a list.  So I said to myself - Okay, Lord he's yelling at me again for something I didn't do (din't have on my list) what do I do.  There must be a reason he is yelling at me, please guide me and let me know what it is.  Nothing.  So I just let my DH yell and yell and yell (for 20 minutes all the way back to the store).  I didn't say anything.  Not a word because every time I tried to say something he'd yell at me more.  So I thought God was simply telling me to keep my mouth shut and I did.  Then he gets even more mad and is yelling at me for not saying anything.  We get tot he store and I said, Look, steaks and potatos were not on the list.  I was tired and I didn't get everything, but you did'nt either.  I don't care whether or not I forgot potatoes, I don't deserve to be yelled at like you have been.  Shut the door and went into the store, got what I needed.  I came out and got in the car and he continued on yelling like I had never said anything.  So I stayed silent all the way home.  But nothing, I asked God for guidence and got nothing.  Years ago I got sick of it.  I said, Okay Lord, you're not helping me.  Your not guiding me, he's yelling at me when he's unhappy about something whether it's my fault or not (along with other issues I won't go into).  Everytime I prayed it got worse.  Then I kept remembering the Bible story (don't know the names and details), but the story about the guy who kept his faith no matter how hard God made it on him (at least I think that's the jist of the story), so I kept my faith.  Kept saying I'm being treated like dirt for a reason.  I'm feeling homesick and will never get to see my family for a reason.  I never got to experience the joy of being a mother for a reason.  I feel lonely for a reason.  DH can't get a job for a reason.  I kept thinking there is a reason to all this, please just guide me and let me know why, just even a hint.  Nothing.  Years go by and no answers.  So I did the ultimate no-no.  Bout 5 years ago I prayed to Satan.  I said God is not helping me.  I'm struggling and I don't know why he won't answer me.  I pray and my troubles get worse.  I ask not that He do what I want but that He does what He wants and just lets me understand.  But nothing.  He is not answering me.  So I said if Satan could help me I was his.  I said he could have me and my soul.  I knew from everything I had been taught growing up this was the ultimate worse.   I was lost.  I didn't know what else to do.  Praying certainly didn't help.  I figured I must be a horrible person and God doesn't love me so if he didn't, maybe Satan would (which is kind of ironic cos from everything I was taught Satan doesn't love).  So I prayed to him (no rituals though).  But I prayed just like I prayed to God.  Nothing.  No answers, no help nothing.  So then I started praying to God again.  I begged for his forgiveness.  I said I should have never done that.  I cried so hard that I would have stooped to that low.  I said I should have never doubted him.  He's there for me, he's just not telling me and guiding me.  DH tells me that God is in each one of us.  He's in our cells and how we lead our lives is a tribute to God.  I've always been a good person, always helped out people who needed help, supported DH through his struggles, spent all of my inheritance money helping out family members in need, making sure natures animals are fed.  I feel deep sadness when I see cruelty towards other human beings and especially animals and children.  I cry at the commercials that show little kids around Christmas as for over 20 years I prayed for children and never was blessed with any.  Now I'm facing some life issues.  Maybe I'm going to be going through menopause, I don't know.  I know when my mom was going through it she was depressed and always thought she was going to die.  Maybe that it what is happening to me, but  I need my faith with God to be strong.  I need to know that he loves me.  I don't know how to do that.  I need to know I'm existing for some reason.  How do you strengthen your faith when prayers do not work.

 

Okay, hope I didn't ramble on incoherently.  So many thoughts came through.  I guess I just feel lost and don't know what to do.  I want God to love me.  I want to be a good person (which I think I am).  I want my health to be strong because if something were to happen to me my husband would be devastated and not know what to do and all our kitties would be lost without me because I am here for them 24 hours a day.  Just want my relationship with God to be stronger and I just don't know how to do that.  Any words of wisdom will be most appreciated.

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I was lost once.... - MT

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I used to be where I think you are now -- I was questioning everything. Actually that was only about 5 years ago.

What I did was start researching the origins of Christianity and its traditions. It was a real eyeopener.

Today I believe in a Creator but am no longer a Christian. There is no going back for me.

I wish you the best, love and light. :)

Religion versus Relationship... Sm - Old Woman

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I'm not trying to start a debate here but rather explain my beliefs from the other side of the coin, so please don't take offense to what I say.

I believe that a lot of people believe that religion and a relationship with Christ are one in the same. They are not.

Religion is generally defined as "a belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny." Therefore the practice of religion could be related to any belief of a higher power, as you mentioned a "Creator." It could also relate to a belief in Satan or Zeus or Apollo or any other supernatural being.

Relationship, on the other hand, means that a person has a bond with, in this case, Jesus Christ. In much the same way as we have a bond with our earthly mother, father, siblings, etc., we can have a personal, deeply satisfying relationship with Christ. This is the only way in which we can reach God the Father...Through Jesus the Son.

The development of religion down through the years has changed, and changed somewhat drastically, from its original intent. You mentioned having studied the origins of Christianity, and from what I read, you were disillusioned in what you found. I would submit to you that the origin of Christianity is in Jesus Christ as He was the true beginning. Even in the early years, there was disagreement in how Christianity was meant to be, and this has just multiplied exponentially through the years.

Conversely, a true relationship with Christ only changes in that it grows deeper and more meaningful with time. His teachings remain the same. His love for us remains the same. His desire for us to come to know Him remains the same. And He enriches our relationship with Him as we study more about Him and seek a closer walk with Him.

Religion is man's way of reaching God through rules and regulations. A relationship with Christ is God's way of reaching man with love, mercy, and grace.

Didn't mean to get on a soapbox but just wanted to point out the differences between the two.

Strengthen your faith - carpals

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It sounds like you need someone to talk to one-on-one, someone who knows the Bible and lives it daily. I have my own set of challenges, some similar to yours, and I won't bore you with that, but we have found that starting to attend church again helped tremendously. We had previously gone to a United Methodist church because BIL was a minister, but it seemed so generic or something, just seemed so impersonal. In the last year, we started going to a church where the people are just fantastic, very kind, supportive, lots of them know the Bible and live it daily, not just on Sundays, and the congregation members actually participate, not just leaving everything to the pastors. They have been very supportive and helpful to us, and it sounds like you could use that kind of support, too. Anyway, I think that is where you should start. I don't know your geographical location, but search for a good church that actually preaches the Bible, talk with one of the ministers, and let him help direct you. Don't be afraid to let others help support you. Will pray for your guidance and the ease of your load.

I think we all pray and work for deeper faith..... - Cyndiee

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But in this case, I think the problem is not lack of faith, but rather not enough free will.

God blessed human beings to think, process, make decisions, and as long as we are humble and pray each day for Wisdom and Discernment of the Holy Spirit, I do believe God gives us the intelligence and faculties to make decisions with our lives, with what He has given us.

It sounds to me that you are in an abusive, painful, mean-spirited relationship with your husband, and that this is the greatest source of your pain???? NOW WOMAN, wife or girlfriend or mother, should just have to accept being berated and demeaned and treated horribly. In this case, God gives us the strength to pray, to try to change things, but sometimes you must take action, and He will help you. You must protect yourself, and also your mental health and spiritual help. Your despair comes from being brutalized, minimized, and insulted by one you love.

He does not have this right, and you do not have to take it. If there is a friend, relative, church group, or shelter that you could go to, just to separate yourself from him, show him you will NOT put up with his caveman mentality and cruelty anymore, he might begin to change. If not, take measures to leave.

In our marriage vows, it says to honor and cherish....he is obviously ignoring and breaking that sacred command....so do not worry about "breaking your vows." I could be 100% wrong, but mental/emotional abuse by a spouse is WRONG and God does not want you to accept this.

Deleted - Apologies for misreading the OP - nm

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nm

Oh my gosh - I do need to clarify a few things - Lost

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First thank you everyone for reading and listening and responding, but I feel I must make a couple issues very clear, which I evidently did not in my last post. Maybe I was just feeling down and just didn't word things right or fully explain.

1. I am in no way or ever would be in any way ever ever ever suicidal or feel the need to do that. First, it's a sin. Second, I love my husband and my cats and my family and my friends too much and I would never do that to them. I've seen what happens to families who have members who do that. It's very sad. There is nothing ever that could happen in my life that would ever make me even think about doing that. So, I just wanted to make that perfectly clear. Nothing in my life is that bad or no where near that bad or no where near a fraction of being that bad. I do like my life. I love everyone in my life and I love doing my crafts and watching movies with my husband and I adore my cats way too much.

Second, I believe what I am needing is to pray (and have others pray for me) that my husband is a little more understanding of my feelings and not so quick to yell at me when he is feeling frustrated. Yes, what I wrote does sound like abuse. I know the differences in physical and emotional abuse. But I have to also tell you this. We have over 30 wonderful years together. Yes we have our arguments, yes I get snippy with him and like my earlier post he has his "moments". Yes when he is yelling at me for something so stupid, yes that is abuse, but it is not like that all the time. In fact, an argument like the one I described has happened so few times in our 30 years together (maybe 5 - the other times is the normal run of the mill arguments that most couples have). Our days are usually spent laughing and joking and horsing around. We watch movies and play video games with each other, read to each other, I work on projects and he tells me I should enter my projects in fairs and and he paints beautiful pictures and I tell him so too and we talk about what we want for our future together and we just do silly things and dress our pets up in costumes and take pictures of them and just have fun. We do not argue that often because for me when we do I get nauseous. I just do not like arguing and neither does he. And before anyone says I'm in denial, I'm not, I'm just trying to explain a little better, which I did not in the last message. We love each other more now than when we first married. I do believe he may be going through mid life phase and I am there for him. He does so much for me here. I'm sure no marriage is perfect and others argue too. It's just the times that he does get in his mood I would rather avoid like the plaque, so he goes off, has his spout and then it's done. I too get snippy at him. I grew up in a home where my mom and dad fought all the time. They ended divorcing. I've heard friends and other family members arguing with theirs spouses. Our arguments are not that unusual. I'm terribly sorry about my last message, I should have clarified that better. We do have a good and strong marriage. But no way in anyway would I ever need to seek a woman's shelter. My husband is the most gentle and loving person. I think what I need to do is pray that the struggles he is going through will become easier for him. I support him 100% and he has supports me 100% in our dreams and what we want in life. I'm thinking with me that maybe I'm at the beginning stages of menopause and that is why I feel sad sometimes (sad, not suicidal). When I started writing the message I actually was asking how do you strengthen your relationship with God when you continually pray about whatever issues you are going through in life, which for me is never having a child, wanting to know what my purpose in life is, what to do when you're having an argument with your spouse, figuring out what to do in life in general and you pray and pray and pray and never hear any answers. Sometimes I just feel alone (that God is not there for me) and as I stated years ago questioned the existence of God and his love for me and went the other way to realize how wrong I was to do that. But basically how do you strengthen your relationship with God. How do you keep the faith when you face struggles and hear no answers. I always hear people say (when talking about end of the world scenarios, rapture, etc) to be spiritually prepared. I think okay, so how do you do that. It must be more than just saying I believe Jesus died on the cross for our sins. How do people strengthen their relationship. I think that was what my post was supposed to be about.

I hope I was able to explain that a little better. I'm sure many of you have arguments with your spouses, most likely not the extent like the one I described. I should say that when I do get totally frustrated I do tell him what I think and for him to stop yelling at me and if there was any signs of abuse it would be from me because while he would never lay a finger (or raise a hand to me), if he ticks me off bad enough I'll beat the you know what out of him. :-) All in all what I just need is prayers that his life's struggles will become easier for him. And prayers for me that I will be able to understand the messages that God is giving me in answers to my prayers. I will continue to pray. I grew up very faith oriented. I do believe God is there. I do believe I'm here for a reason (though I don't know what that is at 55 years of age), and I will continue to try to understand what God wants from me. Just don't know how to do that yet.

Thanks again for everyone replies and prayers.

Not a problem. Don't think I worded my first post very well - Lost - sm

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I understood your message just fine and that was not a problem what you wrote. I'm not very eloquent with wording things sometimes and so it may be been misleading. I do thank you for your reply and concern.

I guess all in all is I believe, but it's hard when I don't hear answers whether or not it's what I want. I will continue to pray with the hopes that He does listen, though if I don't know what the answers are I'm not sure how that will guide my life.

Thanks again for your reply and concern. It was most respectfully noted.

I think a lot of the time the answers are right - in front of our face and

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we fail to see them because they are not what we wanted. Sometimes what we want and feel we need is not what God has planned for us. Sometimes the answers are subtle, and we don't even realize what He has done to answer our prayers. The instance of you and your husband arguing, I do not know any married couples that do not do this. We are still human, and we still live in this world. God gave us personalities, and sometimes they clash. I believe sometimes God allows things to happen in our life to make us stronger.

What I would recommend is what one of the other posters recommended, going to church. It seems that you have been to a couple of different kinds of churches. What I found was that when I got older was that I was stuck in tradition with how I was raised. I wanted to know what I really believed. You have to figure out what you really believe. I personally believe in salvation, and this is what truly makes the difference in your life where you have that relationship with God, and He gives you His gifts such as wisdom and discernment for certain situations.

I also have found that listening to people of like faith on CD have helped. When I worked out of the house, I would put CDs in on my way to work and on my way home. I can't even tell you how much that has helped me.

Lastly, I will say that in my belief, when you are trying very hard to build your relationship with God, Satan is trying to tear it down. It sounds like there have been times where God has been using you to help others. I think we need to praise Him for these things too, that he has given you the ability and the money to help others.

Don't Let Satan Win - kel

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I would encourage you to start watching Joyce Meyer on TV or online and read her books, particularly "Battlefield of the Mind". Her teachings will help you.

Study the Bible every day and learn God's word. This is the key to a close relationship with God and 'hearing' from Him. If you don't know where to start, there are Bible reading plans at www.biblegateway.com.

When it seems like God is not answering our prayers, it is not because He doesn't love us. We are His children, and He loves us unconditionally. He knows what is best for us and we have to learn to trust His timing in everything. I had a counselor once ask me "Do you believe that God is good?" I thought that was a silly question and said, of course I do! And she said "Well, if you believe that He is good and you trust what He says to be true, then what have you to fear?" These statements changed my life.

I would encourage you to go to my church's website, www.newspring.cc. There are wonderful messages that will encourage you and give you hope.

God bless you!

Encouragement - He Is!

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I totally agree with the previous poster, "kel." Our mind is what we have to conquer! That's where Satan can come in if we let him. He knows if he just puts a 'thought' in our head and we take it and run with it, he's got us! Joyce Meyer is wonderful on that teaching and I actually have that book and will gladly mail it to you if you'd like...just private email me with your address! Not sure if you've heard of Jentezen Franklin or not, but the name of the church is Free Chapel and he's my pastor. You can Google either Free Chapel or Jentezen Franklin and you can find all of the sermons. Kingdom Connection is our church TV Program and you can also stream live for services on Sunday mornings or Wednesday evenings. This is just one of his many sermons that I believe will help lift you up...It's called A.N.T.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7xSzFjwuwI

Email me any time if you want or need to talk and as I said I have the book by Joyce Meyer "Battlefield of the Mind" if you're interested. God Bless You and Keep You!

Thoughts to OP - JC

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I think it is the things we do that strengthen faith. When you pray that strengthens your faith because it shows you believe in something higher than yourself. God's way is not our way. When we pray and it is not answered we think he is not listening. God knows all. He holds us in his hands. It is true that it can be frustrating to pray and nothing comes of it. I believe God knows what it best and answers prayers in ways we may not know.

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