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Obama's America 2016
Posted: Jun 4, 2013
I watched Obama's America 2016 again last night and it is definitely spot on where he is taking this country - to total collapse. All you have to do is see what he's done the last 5 years and realize that by the time his term is done, the USA will never be as we once knew it.;
Excellent movie. Should be required viewing for - everyone. Many afraid to watch, though.
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The problem with these types of things... - Empirelady
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... is that it is made to look as though 1 man has that kind of power. Now, don't take that as a defense of Obama (there are very few politicians that I would defend at this point). No 1 person has the kind of power, in this country, to take it down all by himself.
The decline in our country that we see now has been happening for decades, contributed to, and caused by, many people in D.C. when they allowed themselves to be bought and sold by large corporations/money.
I refuse to watch such propaganda by either side, because, frankly, it's all either a distraction to keep us from seeing that they are robbing this country blind and/or want their particular puppets in power.
No, this movie does not try to prove that he has any (sm) - Watcher
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more power than anyone else. (People comment on something they haven't even seen and judge it). It is more about "where he came from and what makes him think the way he does." If you saw it, you would know that.
Then they should not have.... - Empirelady
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... called it "Obama's America 2016" as if this were all his call. One can suppose or surmise what may or may not be going through a President's mind, but it's still just opinion and has no business being treated as fact.
Furthermore, I believed a lot of things when I was younger that now, with maturity and some years under my belt, I no longer espouse.
Again, I'm not defending Obama. We can argue that other Presidents', both sides, experiences growing up formed the way they made the decisions they did in contributing to the decline we see today. Obama may or may not have had certain ideas of how he wants to see the country, but he doesn't have the power to do it all by himself.
Bottom line, I don't watch propaganda nor do I listen to it. I filter out the garbage, decide what I think a particular politician will do and stands for, and make my decision based on that, not someone else's opinions and thoughts of what may or may not be going through someone else's mind.
wish we could hit a "like" button, so I agree nm - IMANMT2
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My own personal feeling - me
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He did not come out of "nowhere" - he was carefully groomed since childhood with those who affected his upbringing - the communist (Frank Davis), his friend (Ayer?) who blew up the pentagon and was a big contributor to his presidential campaign, Prof Unger who remains a nut case liberal at Harvard, and Reverent Wright, whom Obama distanced himself from in order to get elected....what other President would try to decrease our nuclear weapon sites to be in line with everyone else's instead of trying to remain the most powerful nation (which we no longer are, in my eyes); or want to protect muslims for crimes they have committed, or release dangerous detainees off Gitmo back to their country, to they can get another chance at repeating 9/11....no, this man is a terrorist planted in our midst to destroy the US, and by 2016, he will be pretty much accomplishing his goal. Sorry for the rant, but with all the things going on his horrific administration in addition to his own way of "governing" I shudder to think what happens next.
My take on grooming - mbmt
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I have not seen the movie Obama 2016, but I have to say that I am suspicious of anyone that makes a movie claiming that they know so much about a person they have never met.
As for the rest of your opinion about President Obama being groomed since childhood to become President and destroy America, I think that is not likely. Isn't this just more guilt by association than anything else? For example, there is no proof whatsoever that President Obama and Bill Ayers were/are buddies. They both served on some boards in the Chicago area and for that reason were probably in the same room at the same time, and that's it. As for Frank Davis, we do not know for a fact that President Obama's upbringing and thought processes were affected by this person. As for Jeremiah Wright and the rest, again just the fact that he knew them in some capacity does not support RW folks' claims that there is something sinister going on.
What about college? Again, no one from his college days at Columbia - Truthhurts
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seem to know him. In fact, he has never attended a reunion at the college.
As for Rev. Wright, Obama himself stated he was a member of that church for how many years? I think it was 25....well, after hearing ranting and raving and hate for 25 years, wouldn't you believe what Wright was spouting was truth; IOW, hating America, etc?
There is proof that Bill Ayers and Obama knew each other: Accordingly, they weren't close/close, but they knew each other and who knows what they would have talked about when meeting.
Obama and Ayers first met at the first Chicago Annenberg Challenge board of directors meeting at noon on March 15, 1995, at the headquarters of the Spencer Foundation on the 28th floor of the 900 North Michigan building in Chicago. Ayers and Anne Hallett, co-authors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant proposal and leaders of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, attended six early board meetings to brief the directors and a June 22, 1995 news conference where the members of the board of directors were announced.
In November 1993, Obama became one of the five founding directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago when it split off from the Lincoln, Nebraska-incorporated Woods Charitable Fund, and served as a director for nine years until December 2002. Ayers served as a director of the Woods Fund of Chicago for nine years from December 1999 until December 2008, overlapping with Obama for three years from December 1999 until December 2002
On March 2, 2001, Ayers made a $200 contribution to Obama's third campaign for the Illinois Senate.
On April 20, 2002, the University of Illinois at Chicago spring semester Liberal Arts and Sciences course "LAS 400: The University and the Public Sphere; Public Intellectuals and Their Social Influence" concluded with a conference "Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?" that included a six-person panel discussion (that included Ayers and Obama).
The above was taken from Wikipedia but there is also this (link provided):
Ayers confirmed that him and Obama were “friendly” back when he was in Chicago:
The truth is exactly what he said and what the campaign said in 2008. David Axelrod said we were friendly, that was true; we served on a couple of boards together, that was true; he held a fundraiser in our living room, that was true; Michelle [Obama] and Bernardine were at the law firm together, that was true. Hyde Park in Chicago is a tiny neighborhood, so when he said I was “a guy around the neighborhood,” that was true...
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/03/exclusive-bill-ayers-on-the-weathermen-obama-s-crap-job-more.html
Obama is trying to help EVERY American. The - sm
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republicans are making sure this doesn't happen.
Pretty simple, really. The cons aren't doing any WORK for the people. They're busy creating fiction against this President -- anything they can do to make him look bad and will try to impeach him.
It's the republicans who are hurting this country.
I don't know you or your circumstances, so it's - sm
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impossible for me to say how he's trying to help YOU!
I do know how he's helping me, though, and that's all I need.
Hmmm, 22-23% is the number who insisted President W was doing - a terrific job right to the bitter end. :) nm
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