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Need an update on the whole gun control issue

Posted: Dec 18, 2012

Okay, I'm really behind on what is going on with this whole debate because I don't have cable or satellite TV and don't use the box to get the local channels. (We just watch DVDs if we even turn the TV on.) I just happened to see something on the Yahoo! page when I checked my email earlier about possibly having stricter gun control. I tried to do some research, but I am more confused now than before I ran across the first article. I would really like to know what has happened so far. I depend on guns to get my meals quite a bit, especially during this part of the year when I can't grow my garden, because groceries are so expensive. I mean surely using a gun to get enough food to survive on is something that they are considering in all of this??? Or maybe not.... I highly doubt that most of the ones actually deciding the final out come of this have had to depend on them the way I have my entire life.

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No. - RC

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Most people are discussing regulations, not banning guns.

And you can find far more info on the internet than on TV. The reason you don't see anything official is because no official thing exists. It's just dialogue.

Actually, I'm not sure why you feel out of the loop--I haven't had TV in over a decade.

That's somewhat of a relief - sm

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I've never really watched TV except for DVDs other than when I stayed with friends overnight when I was younger or if I visit somebody.

I guess some of the comments on the articles I found got me paranoid.

I find TV an extremely inadequate source of information. The web is - excellent once you sift out the junk.nm

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Do you depend on an assault rifle to bag your game? - Are you packing 30-round clips in your backpack

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so you can blow your prey to smitherens and cart it home without worrying about having to gut or cut it up in single-serving sizes. If not, then you can sleep easy tonight knowing that hunter's rights are being protected. Meanwhile, might want to ponder this. The cost of lifestyle changes involving a shift from a hunter-and-gatherer household economy to one of local grocery store consumer pales by comparison to the price grieving families are paying for the human carnage current gun control debate is trying to address.

At one time - sm

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I did use the SKS rifle my dad had before he passed away. The ammo got pretty expensive for it though. We only used it on deer, elk, and the very rare bear that tried to get into the house when I was growing up.

I have no other income aside from MT and have scoliosis and other medical problems that I can't see a doctor for. The medical problems I have keep me from working outside the home and got me fired from my last job I did outside the home. I would not be able to sleep knowing that I wouldn't be able to provide enough food for my son.

My cousin shot himself with an AK-47 and I still do not support the way they are going about gun control. My opinion is that they should do a mental competency test at the very least, which they don't do here.

Here we go again - Clarification

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Actually there are no "assault rifles" available to civilians. They are semiautomatic versions of their military counterparts. Actually the bullets that a 5.56 or 7.62 "assault rifle" can shoot are also used in .223 and .308 hunting rifles, respectively. They are sometimes interchangeable.

I'm suspicious as to why they want an all-out ban on them, instead of passing legislation banning those hi-cap clips (over 10 rounds). Today, semiautomatic rifles, tomorrow all guns. I would rather someone hunt for food they can't afford than depend on government.

Curious as to what you are hunt for food - sm

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Just wondering. It seems the cost of licenses,game limits,guns, ammo, and the liklihood of actually getting something makes it not worth it.

Well - sm

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No assault rifles. The hunting license is $12.00 here and I reload the ammo, so it's not as expensive as it might seem. The limits this year are more than they were in the last couple of years in this zone. There are usually 15-20 deer in the front yard every morning under the fruit trees, so likelihood is really not an issue. I also hunt squirrels and rabbits in the field behind the house. The limits don't mean that much since it is just me and my 2-year-old son. We have never run out of meat. Every once in a while we go fishing, but the cost of gas for that is too much to go very often. I don't have a vehicle right now and have to have gas money to get a ride if I need to go anywhere.

I won't lie, there were times that I didn't have the money for the license and did hunt when I was unemployed for over 2 years. I had nothing but the meat from hunting.

Me too, but libs and the WH - Clarification

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would rather have us A) Depend on them for food, or B) Starve to death rather than hunt. I just like you would rather hunt.

Since clarification is the theme. - RC

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I'm a lib and certainly couldn't care less if people hunt for food. In fact, I'm a vegetarian. And I still couldn't care less.

I don't care if you hunt - grits

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with your gun, as long as you're responsible, respect wildlife and eat what you kill.

Would you/have you considered bow hunting?

I have tried. - sm

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I can't pull back a bow because of the pain with my scoliosis. I've tried using a crossbow with the cocking tool, but couldn't do that either. I sold the crossbow and do have a bow right now that I am trying to sell.

Gun ownership may not be for you - Fanatical Hypocrite

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If you're such a bad aim you need rapid fire to get a deer, maybe you shouldn't have a gun in the first place. My aunt has never hunted in her life and she's still managed to kill four of them accidentally;)

Again, America will never ban pistols or hunting rifles. The main discussion is on semiautomatics.

My family's from West Virginia, so I grew up with hunting. I'm a complete animal nut and I'm fine with hunting (not so much sport hunting, but don't worry, I won't ban it, just give you condescending looks.) In fact, I prefer when people hunt rather than buy from the store, because the animal usually suffered briefly, rather than the incredibly immune slaughterhouse system the USDA employs. If I'm going to be murdered, I'd prefer to just be going about my normal day and never see it coming.

Hunting has never been, isn't now and will never be at risk. However, weapons capable of massacres are a different story.

Brings to mind my ex-father-in-law - sm

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He was legally blind, but would still try to go hunting. He would see something moving, even if it was just a leaf, and he would empty his .22. He never did hit anything and thankfully was always miles away from any people.

LOL, that's hilarious - Fanatical Hypocrite

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On the opposite end of the spectrum, my grandmother was an ace shooter. When she first moved to the country when she was still a young woman, grandpa got her a rifle for protection. One night her and my grandfather went walking in the woods. It was too dark to see anything and they heard an unearthly screech. She screamed and reflexively shot at the sound and managed to hit the monster. It turned out to be a screech owl. She was so ashamed and upset by it. Still, to hit a screech owl in total darkness on a quick fire is amazing. She could do the same thing with knives. Not that she ever accidentally killed an owl with a throwing knife;)

In a double set of irony, starting off as a scared accidental bird killer from the city, she became a woodswoman and hillbilly, and was known county wide for her love of animals and taking in strays. Go figure.

wild potshots do not a good hunter make - fyi

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Yeah, okay if Clarification hunts, but suspect welfare is more likely. - That lib with a semi-auto shotgun under the bed. n

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