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In case you don't see my post further down the page
Posted: Jan 20, 2014
The Truthhurts poster did not post the truth about Social Security. What she cited were the myths being circulated on line which the Snopes article then goes on to debunk. Important to read the whole thing.
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Like someone told me, please post a link instead of sending - me on a hunting expedition.
[ In Reply To ..]nm
Sorry - old and burned out
[ In Reply To ..]The OP posted the Snopes link but I should have repeated it.
and I posted 3 or 4 links to articles on the message I posted - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]Sometimes, though, when posting links, people don't look at them or complain that they're not valid, so that's why some posters state to do your own research.
I always post links to articles I read until I'm given JUST my opinion. If posters want to read those links, fine...if they don't, then don't yell and scream everything's a lie because they didn't look at them.
Yes, I even look at liberal and democratic sites and sometimes (used to) post links from them..
in case you don't see my post in answer to you. - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]I posted a LINK to Snopes. I did not post anything from the article.
The Johnson paragraph came directly from the Social Security Administration website, the LINK which I ALSO posted below the snopes link.
That article is titled "Myths about SS" - old and burned out
[ In Reply To ..]being part of a unified budget only describes an accounting practice which tracks the fund and not how the funds are disbursed.
Another LINK to SS info - Not a myth - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]From the beginning of the Social Security program its transactions were reported by the administration as a separate function in the budget.
In early 1968 President Lyndon Johnson made a change in the budget presentation by including Social Security and all other trust funds in a"unified budget." This is likewise sometimes described by saying that Social Security was placed "on-budget."
This 1968 change grew out of the recommendations of a presidential commission appointed by President Johnson in 1967, and known as the President's Commission on Budget Concepts.
I think you are misinterpreting what on-budget and off-budget mean. nm - Old MT
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Why do you say that. Maybe you are the one - misinterpreting.
[ In Reply To ..]you didn't say why you think she is misinterpreting. What is your interpretation of it.
I read the entire SS link that TH posted...sm - Old MT
[ In Reply To ..]I am pretty sure I understood it. This is the summary written at the end.
Summary-
So, to sum up:
1- Social Security was off-budget from 1935-1968;
2- On-budget from 1969-1985;
3- Off-budget from 1986-1990, for all purposes except computing the deficit;
4- Off-budget for all purposes since 1990.
Finally, just note once again that the financing procedures involving the Social Security program have not changed in any fundamental way since they were established in the original Social Security Act of 1935 and amended in 1939. These changes in federal budgeting rules govern how the Social Security program is accounted for in the federal budget, not how it is financed
Stop calling people out saying they are liars - when they are not!!!
[ In Reply To ..]Tired of the calling out of people you don't agree with claiming they are liars, etc.
Especially when the information they post is the truth.
Oh come on! - old and burned out
[ In Reply To ..]I didn't all anyone a liar; if I had, the post would have been removed. The poster cited quotes from articles which were debunking myths about SS and she only cited the myths. If you read the entire article it explains how the govt gets its hands on SS funds but it is not by putting it into the general fund. And, yes, both parties do it.
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