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Posted: Feb 6, 2010

Tax cuts for individuals Total: $237 billion 1. $116 billion: New payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phaseout begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers.[27] 2. $70 billion: Alternative minimum tax: a one year increase in AMT floor to $70,950 for joint filers for 2009.[27] $15 billion: Expansion of child tax credit: A $1,000 credit to more families (even those that do not make enough money to pay income taxes). 3. $14 billion: Expanded college credit to provide a $2,500 expanded tax credit for college tuition and related expenses for 2009 and 2010. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $160,000. 4. $6.6 billion: Homebuyer credit: $8,000 refundable credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years. This only applies to first-time homebuyers.[39] 5. $4.7 billion: Excluding from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009. 6. $4.7 billion: Expanded earned income tax credit to increase the earned income tax credit — which provides money to low income workers — for families with at least three children. 7. $4.3 billion: Home energy credit to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners. 8. $1.7 billion: for deduction of sales tax from car purchases, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000. Tax cuts for companies Total: $51 billion 1. $15 billion: Allowing companies to use current losses to offset profits made in the previous five years, instead of two, making them eligible for tax refunds. 2. $13 billion: to extend tax credits for renewable energy production (until 2014). 3. $11 billion: Government contractors: Repeal a law that takes effect in 2012, requiring government agencies to withhold three percent of payments to contractors to help ensure they pay their tax bills. Repealing the law would cost $11 billion over 10 years, in part because the government could not earn interest by holding the money throughout the year. 4. $7 billion: Repeal bank credit: Repeal a Treasury provision that allowed firms that buy money-losing banks to use more of the losses as tax credits to offset the profits of the merged banks for tax purposes. The change would increase taxes on the merged banks by $7 billion over 10 years. 5. $5 billion: Bonus depreciation which extends a provision allowing businesses buying equipment such as computers to speed up its depreciation through 2009. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:O_T0MlQfT5AJ:tax.cchgroup.com/Legislation/House-Senate-Recovery-Act-2009.pdf+House+Conference+report+111+recovery+act+tax+cut+section&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShLaLgHGbkTAdnjYLhqnwAg8i8sNvZ-bydnFW03HNNmkILTteaTPDqtrKV1QlC-CrohpWaXG7iFMdhnLDFuYA3Lo-0TEJ5tSllC5-89QaRpWdI_MaL52TP3mRahHbKINm_vcTme&sig=AHIEtbRWzt-WvPvDD9vG60e0wYnV4KJ_Ug http://www.womenof.com/ARRA_of_2009_Questions__Answers-Article.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009#cite_ref-handwritten1_26-0;

288 billion dollars in tax cuts with 237 billion for individuals - coming up on 2009 returns this year.

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Sounds good to me.

Only No.1 applies to me - Backwards Typist

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But #1 didn't apply to us in 2009 since the IRS took it towards "money we may owe" when we file.

We have no young children, nor children going to college,cannot be first time homebuyers,do not get UC (although I wish I could apply), do not qualify for EITC, and cannot make our home more energy efficient because it would cost too much. In fact, we made our home somewhat more energy efficient a few years ago with new windows,insulation, etc. and so, this would not apply to us either. I do need a new oven and upright freezer, but who can afford them when they cost so much but the most you can claim is $500. Just bought another car but can't afford a NEW car,so where are the benefits for people like me?

As for tax cuts for companies, I still say some of the taxes and/or repeal of subsidies will only hurt the little guy but making us pay more for heat, electricity, gas, food, and clothing since the companies will make it up by charging more.

Challenging question. To hunt for benefits for folks like you (and me) - would need a little more info....

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Do you file joint or separately? Are you an IC? Any small business in the picture (you or your spouse)? Is the “money we may own” based on quarterly filing amounts? You could adjust your withholding amounts to compensate for this in the future. Are your individual incomes less than $75,000 or $150,000 combined? Does one of you make over and the other under that amount? I realize that is a personal question you may not want to answer but it is helpful to know when on a benefits safari.

Do you have dependent children that fall between childcare and college? Do you anticipate college expenses in the near future? How many dependents do you claim? Any of them fall into the special categories (elders, disabled, blind)? Still paying on a mortgage? There are a number of benefits that can be gleaned from home ownership including and besides the energy efficient provisions. When did you make the energy improvements? Affordability of energy efficient appliances is a function of when they are and are not on sale, taking advantage of discounts, coupons, and other promotional offers. Any clunkers at the house? The amount they pay for them is way more than you would get on a trade-in.

Passing on expenses to consumers by large companies will be an issue addressed in financial reform, much in the same way credit practices were addressed in the Recovery Act, unless it’s filibustered to death.

Answers to your questions are easy. - Backwards Typist

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File jointly and the rest are no. If I remember correctly, the energy improvements were made the year after heating oil reached $1 a gallon. DH is self-employed but took early retirement because the work has not been there for the past 2 years.

On my measly MT pay lately, I certainly cannot afford new appliances. Even with sales and discounts, they are out of reach. I've gone back to using a crock pot or skillet meals (on a propane cooktop @$65/100lb-which has lasted over 2 years)or on top of our coal and wood stove to save money as my state just let the caps on electric use expire and our bills are now 30% more a month.
Wow. Okay. This raises a few more questions - to get a full picture.
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Does you husband work whenever works is around to supplement retirement income? Is he in the pre-etirement age range (60-65). Is there supplemental income above (reduced) social security payments? Pensions? Retirement savings payouts, i.e. IRS, 401K, stocks, bonds, CDs, etc)? There are ways to work the social security benefits to make the "permanency" of that amount slide upward, which I will allude to once I have the full picture. He may also qualify for some specific types of benefits relative to early retirement, especially if his decision was based on jobs loss. Are you an IC?

PS. I'm putting together an "all-day" double batch (1/2 to freeze) beef, eggplant, tomato and sour grape stew and a pot of jeweled rice. That's something we do...cook and freeze to cut down on cost per meal and eliminate eating out, except on very special occasions. Guess I should be factoring in the cost of electricity into my calculation!

Anyway, the hunt will be protracted by the need to stage that event. There are a number of places to look for these things, but I will do my best to help if I can...just might take a while. Sounds like you need a new gas stove. That brings up one last question. What about a credit purchase in combination with discounts, rebates and coupones...like the ones that give you X-number of months before charging interest? Is that a possibility?
He probably won't be able to work this year. - Backwards Typist
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Insurance and tags come due in May. Fuel is outrageous cost for him. Work normally doesn't pick up until June lately. Then there's the no pay for 5 weeks if he does work (or later if he gets paid at all-still owed money from last year).

IRA not touched yet. Hardly anything in it. Lost most of what was there in 2008/2009.

I have a 2-year old gas cooktop. It's the separate electric double oven that needs to be replaced (c. 1985 model). Fridge 1990. Upright freezer is c.1970s freebie.



Side of beef and 1/2 hog every year for us plus our own garden gets us through for now.
There is something familiar sounding here... - sm
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This is enough to start research. Still would help to know if you are IC with MT and if you are making any mortgages payments, since there are benefits to be had within that area.

What sounds familiar here are the insurance and tags, jobs loss, fuel worries, etc. DH here has a 1-person 2-truck auto transport business. There is one paid off 1990 (!) International 3-car hauler plus another Intl 4-car hauler that was financed Feb 2007. It won't be paid off until around September or October). He also experienced the same jobs loss over 2009. The truck payments are huge but the gas and insurance are the real killers and there's no getting around it, plus there are many costly state and county regulations and licensing complaince issues.

Another thing that sounded familiar was the waiting around for pay. With auto transport that happens (some want to pay monthly) but DH avoids contracting with folks that make him wait and he is constantly calling and going around and around to collect. Does your husband do similar work?

Anyway, the appliance questions were about interest-free credit schemes from places like Best Buy or larger appliance stores that keep warehoused stock. Sometimes Sears has those deals.

The (time) terms range from 1 to 2 years (or more on larger purchases). Sometimes credit scores matter, but typically the guidelines are drawn rather broad depending on the store and what you are buying. You end up paying only for the price of the appliance and the monthly payments are fairly reasonable. Sounds like you live in a rural area, so those options on appliance purchass may not be available to you either, but it was just a thought.

Beef stew is still at it, but I will start looking into this and see what I can come up with.
Please email me privately since this is a political board (nm) - Backwards Typist
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