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Hate crime charges sought in July 4 beating


Posted: Jul 10, 2015

The video of this beating is absolutely sickening, but the outcome will probably be that nothing is done. Don't want to upset the delicate, you know.

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**And should go little to no where - - a few kids fighting

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Sure somebody could be charged with something. Who knows what started it,
and as to making this a race thing, yes indeedy, that looks like a white guy getting hit by a black guy....oops and also a black guy looks like he is pulling a black guy off a white guy, and a white and black couple walked by.

It really only seemed to be between a few people.

** I have edited this. Went to dig a little further and there is a much better story to your point. I don't know if it still proves hate crime, but a lot more CRIME than the video embedded in OP.

IMO, from what I have gotten from this, it will have to be proven that when the black guy got "bumped" by the white guy that he responded by beating on him because he was white. Strangely, if they have any proof that the black guy has a history of just beating on anyone who gets in his space, this isn't a hate crime.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3155248/Cincinnati-police-chief-asks-hate-crime-charges-Fourth-July-beating-white-man-black-youths-lower-ranking-officer-denied-race-related.html

Are we sure this isn't just the right's attempt to deflect from Charleston? - sm

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Being a liberal, I thought I would try out that right-wing mantra that everything that happens is just a conspiracy to deflect from something else.

Now I just feel silly. :)

You tube took the video down last I heard. I watched it - I see blacks excited over the assault,

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I see a white person attempting to help, and then I saw a black guy trying to keep the crowd back in order to help as well.

You're right, this will go nowhere.

Sign the petition for Cracker Barrel to change their name to Caucasian Barrel - video has gone viral! Liberals

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and all their race-baiting have found racism in everything.

All that is about to change and the tide is about to turn thanks to Ryan Koch from Des Moines, IA.

He believes that the restaurant chain, Cracker Barrel should be changed to Caucasian Barrel. Mr. Koch has started a petition on Change.org demanding the establishment change their name. Did I mention it’s hilariously awesome and mocks the race baiters out there?

I say all of us European Americans start protesting C****er Barrel. It uses an offensive slur and it is deeply offensive and mocks our long and proud heritage.

Mr. Koch’s take on the absurdity of race in America is spot on.

The name is offensive, their logo stereotypes European Americans as people who sit on chairs and lean against what appears to be a bourbon barrel, claiming we are all a bunch of alcoholics. Sure, they’ll SAY it’s a “cracker” barrel but everyone knows crackers don’t come in barrels, they come in bags and boxes!

And how about White Castle?

It's a joke, but we need that!

I'm a saltine American! - NM

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NM

I feel that to fully participate in the American experience - I need to be offended by something

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on totally frivolous grounds that defy reason.

Someone posted that and it's brilliant!
I want to get my feelings hurt so I can get the govt - to fine you for $135,000.
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Cracker Barrel has already been sued - for racism-Guess EEOC could have made them

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EEOC Trial Attorney Calhoun added, "But this case wasn't just about sexual harassment it was also very clearly about race. Black employees said that they experienced racially charged language in the workplace, including 'spear chucking porch monkey,' 'you people,' 'ghetto' and the 'n-word.' They said that the discrimination they experienced took other forms as well, including being required to wait on African American customers when white servers refused to do so, and being assigned to work in smoking sections."

And Cracker Barrel has been charged with - discriminating against gays

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The Situation

•In Jan. 1991, Cracker Barrel Old Country Store, Inc., a chain of family restaurants, expressly prohibited the employment of lesbians and gays in their workplace.


•Managers received a corporate personnel policy memorandum from William Bridges, vice president of human resources, declaring that it was deemed

◦“inconsistent with our concept and values and . . . with those of our customer base, to continue to employ individuals . . . whose sexual preferences fail to demonstrate normal heterosexual values, which have been the foundation of families in our society.”


I'm surprised the gaystapo hasn't tried to destroy - them like Chik-Fil-A. NM
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NM
Conservatives don't mind the Constapo trying to destroy Macy's. - sm
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Right-wing hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

Conservatives love that freedom of speech for themselves but not so much for anyone who doesn't sign on to their anti-everything agendas.
Someone has to fight back using the left's - tactics. x
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Interesting to hear the First Amendment characterized as "the left's tactics." - LOL! - nm
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No one is stopping Macy's free speech, and no one tried - to penalize them $135,000 or shut
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them down.
So I guess you didn't hear about Trump threatening to sue people for millions? - sm
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The misinformation from the right wing bubble about the Oregon same-sex wedding cake issue is palpable. The propaganda machine is selectively telling bits and pieces and whining about a gag order while not telling the whole story. The $135,000 was not a penalty or fine; it was damages paid to the complainants because of the harm caused by the owner of the bakery. The guy published the first page of the complaint on his Facebook page with an entry stating "This is what happens when you tell gay people you won't do their 'wedding cake,'" complete with complainants name, address, and phone number for the world to see. They immediately began receiving death threats from anti-gay activists and hate groups who had not only their phone number but also their address. So the right-wing propaganda about that whole issue is a load of made up rubbish. The Kleins published information about the couple and then went on multiple television shows and attended anti-gay hate rallies for their business' totally-fictional right to discriminate against LGBT people, which is against the law in the State of Oregon. The damages weren't remotely about a stupid cake. The poor little Christian couple at the bakery being fined for not making a cake is total fiction. How would you like your name and address published on Facebook and receiving death threats from a bunch of people who got your personal information off social media from a bakery owner?

As far as Macy's and those Donald Trump issues, I guess you haven't heard that Trump's lawyer has sent a cease and desist letter threatening to sue an American citizen for $25 million over a Macy's petition in the past and is now suing Univision for defamation (see link). Trump claims that Univision and Alberto Ciurana, Univision President of Programming and Content, have broadcast false statements about him and demands $500 million in recompense.

In addition, Trump is threatening to sue NBC and many others. The National Hispanic Media Coalition was phoned by chief counsel for the Trump Organization threatening that NHMC would be sued if it "does not cease its advocacy efforts."

Bully tactics from the right wing bigots who want freedom of speech as long as its one sided and they're doing all the talking. Nothing new from Trump and his ilk or the right-wing bullies who constantly are whining about suing or calling a 9th hearing over the same issue in order to smear their opponents, meanwhile they accomplish nothing in the Congress because the sad truth is that the GOP can't agree on anything amongst their own party except their hatred for the president and almost anything he tries to enact.

Same usual crap, different day.
You go Donald! It's about time somebody fought back - and had a pair! I think that's why
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he's gaining popularity. I don' support him for the presidency, but he sure is forcing a lot of people to drop their masks and show their real faces.
It's about time somebody preferred citizens to - illegals! At least he's not selling us
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out like the rest of the RINOs in Washington like with Obamatrade and Obamacare.

You can find ways to denigrate his successes with all the back and forth chatter and trash talking. I don't care, but good for him for fighting back. The media is trying to destroy him. This is why so many conservatives don't fight. Look what happens to them.

Regardless of whether or not you believe his message - sm
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It's hypocritical for anyone to whine about their right to freedom of speech while they are cheering on the silencing of others through bullying tactics and threats of lawsuits.

I may not agree with what someone is saying, but I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with them saying what's on their mind and allowing them to have different ideas without trying to bully them into silence for not agreeing with me.

This "freedom for me but not for thee" is a problem with conservatives who want freedom for themselves while trying to silence everyone else who doesn't agree with them. They are quick to spot this attitude in the left wing but blind to it in themselves.
Look what happened to Brenden Eich from Mozilla. - He donated to Proposition 8
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and the left found out about it. He was forced out from his job for donating money!
They have to use force or SOAP (standard operating Alinsky - procedure). nm
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nm
Goal #27: Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion - with "social" religion. Discredit
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the Bible and emphasize the need for "intellectual maturity."
ConservAlinsky Goal #1 - sm
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Infiltrate the schools and replace primary education with revisionist history. Discredit education and emphasize the need for "intellectual inexperience." People fear what they don't know. Ignorance breeds fear. Fear breeds paranoia, propaganda, and conspiracy. Lie, distort, repeat. Lie, distort, repeat.
That's your projection. There are actually 45 communist goals entered into the - 1963 Congressional record,
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including infiltrating the school, a political party (things that make you go hmmm), belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history, etc.
Is that you, Glenn Beck? - sm
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Green Eggs & Ham is entered into the Congressional Record also, compliments of the Canadian Bacon. "Would you, could you in the dark?" LOL! Yes, at the end of the book, the ham ends up realizing that Obamacare is here to stay because he actually tries it. It's a sinister plot twist at the end since the ham, I mean Sam, probably never saw that coming. LOL!

Yes, A. S. Herlong, Jr. of Florida read those 45 communist goals into the Congressional Record, House of Representatives on Thursday, January 10, 1963:

***** "Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen." *****

And then he reads the list of 45 into the Congressional Record right out of the book by Willard Cleon Skousen, right-wing Mormon darling of the Tea Party because right-wing Mormon Glenn Beck idolizes him and spews his easily proven incorrect drivel on a regular basis and prattles on incessantly about Skousen's views, which are basically the whitewashing and revision of actual American history.

Some of Skousen's conspiracy drivel was read into the Congressional Record in 1963 at the request of Mrs. Nordman of De Land. So what?

I just checked the Internet to see how Mrs. Nordman of De Land was doing. Apparently she passed away in April this year.

Anything that can be read, can be read into the Congressional Record. It means absolutely zero.


Some people just never grow up. Much of what is happening - today is proof. nm
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Is that you Chairman Mao? - NM
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NM
This works best when you choose a living person versus someone who died - 40 years ago. LOL - nm
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Or worse, someone who lived over 2000 years ago. - Or worse than that, who doesnt exist at all.
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Infiltrate the schools? You've got to be kidding!!! The - Democrat unions have been
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running/ruining schools for years.
Conservatives have gotten so mentally deranged, - its hard to take them seriously anymore.
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xnm
People are now going for shadows, they've long - left the acquantaince of light.
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If you get my point.
They've also lost the ability to deal with life's unfairness. - Instead of dealing with it,
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they just simply want to shut people up. I'm not talking about extremes here.

So do I. Like animals. Saw it last night. - nm

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No mention of the illegal murdering Kate Seinle in San Francisco, - by White House, obvious why

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I guess her death is of no concern.

Crimes by illegals have been happening for years, - and voices speaking up for

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the victims have been ignored.

American Lives Matter.

Google Taylor Johnson, a senior special agent with - immigration and custom enforcement

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and see what happens when you try to blow the whistle.

The government harassed her and tried to have her 1 year old adopted baby taken from her for being a whistle blower.
Thanks for the heads up on this. - sm
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If Clinton gets in, things will be even worse. Remember all the people who mysteriously disappeared and/or died under Slick Willie. It would be more of the same, but with more shrieking!
Like Vince Foster. I had forgotten about that. - NM
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NM
The corrupt news media bias is palpable. They don't - care about this if it makes O look bad. nm
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nm

Her death is a Donald Trump political grandstanding issue. - sm

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The guy is running around the country spewing his racist crap and lumping all of one race into the same category. The President of the United States is not going to go there, people. It's political grandstanding on Trump's part to try to prove some racist crap he said while he was announcing his stupid candidacy and telling everyone how rich he was and all kinds of utter nonsense not unlike his stupid birther nonsense from the last election where he threatened to run for president.

The POTUS is not wading into the Trump political rhetoric and mindless drivel.

Should he really comment on this mindless political crap being spewed by Trump? Oh, hell no. Let them whine all they want. Obama is right not to comment on the rhetoric of all the clowns riding on the GOP clown train. Leave that third grade crap to the GOP and their ilk.

We know why. - SM

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They know why, too, but they have no conscience and have to project their vile rhetoric in order to justify it to themselves. I hope BO is proud of himself. You know darn well if that were a black woman his mug and sing-song voice would be dominating all media.

Outrage is a function of coverage. Not enough coverage - from the media so not enough outrage

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as it doesn't fit the agenda. If O would say something about it, then you'd have plenty of outrage, but of course he hasn't said anything, ergo no outrage. It's almost like selling a product.

The premise of outrage being a factor of - publicity was correct

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but they do just fine without President Obama's say. Most often, he only responds as a reaction to press.

Has this been playing Fox a lot? I'll let you know when it shows up on CNN.

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