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Elizabeth Warren's Cherokee backtround - FALSE
Posted: Apr 29, 2017
She would be part of the Eastern Cherokee tribes BUT the Eastern Cherokee Nation does NOT recognize blood quantum as a means of ancestry. They go by the mother of a clan. If your mother is Cherokee, you belong to her clan. If the clan is not known, then that clan has been lost.
Some nations, such as the Navajo Nation, do use blood quantum for tribal enrollment. All members of the Navajo Nation must be at least one-quarter Navajo in order to be enrolled members of the tribe. Similarly, the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe in New York and the White Earth Nation in Minnesota also require members to have one-quarter blood quantum from their nation. The Cherokee Nation did use blood quantum before and to be recognized as a descendant of the Cherokee Nation, you needed a DIRECT LINEAL ANCESTOR that appeared on the Baker Roll and you needed to posses at least 1/16 of Eastern Cherokee blood, NOT 1/32 like Warren is claiming.
The Cherokee Nation requires documented lineage connecting the applicant to a direct ancestor who was listed on the Dawes Rolls. Others, such as the Cheyene Rive Sioux Tribe, require that one of the parents of the applicant be an enrolled member.
Another problem Warren has is that she never realized that some members of the Cherokee Nation are fighting to disenroll descendants of black Cherokee Freedmen. The Cherokee Freedmen were formerly enslaved by the Cherokee, after which they received Cherokee citizenship following the American Civil War. The Cherokee were one of the so-called Civilized Tribes and kept black slaves.
So, I hope you now understand a bit about claiming Native American status. Oh, and another thing...the Cherokee do not rely on "stories handed down by the generations" as proof that you are a part of the Cherokee Nation tribe. In 2012, The Boston Globe wrote an article on Warren's claims and she was unable to document the claims. Other newspapers have tried to document her claims but couldn't find proof either. Just because someone has high cheekbones doesn't mean you're Native American.
Slow news day? - Sm
[ In Reply To ..]No one cares much about sell out Warren anymore. Character assasin away, I suppose.
Nope, just following up on a post lower on the board - Truthhurts
[ In Reply To ..]i did my research and that info came directly from the Cheroke Nation. It is the way they decide if someone can become a tribal member or not. Very, very strict requirements, as it should be. i'll say it again too....Elizabeth Warren would NOT qualify as having Native American ancestry in the Cherokee Nation because even if they used blood quantum, she would need 1/16, not 1/32 proof and then STILL have to do her ancestry trail.
So if anyone is speaking about character assasination, it certainly in't me.
It's a shame how people don't do their research before posting. So much conflict could be avoided.
She never said she was a member of the tribe - You miss the big picture
[ In Reply To ..]I live very close with Native Americans. My family is married in with Native Americans. The family knows great-grandpa was Indian (and a great piano composer), but they do not go into fine genetic or blood testing. Yes, we do talk about family history and we all know it is true. No one has ever tried to collect on the gambling proceeds of the reservation because we all know it is not relevant. Really, I would not have even thought about checking N.A. on a form because it is not something I think about--however, I can see where I might if it had been on my mind at that point in time and the opportunity to click or mark a box on some form, because I am interested in my family's history and others like ours.
Quit picking and parsing. The Republicans have bigger fish to fry and worry about with Trump's lies and his administration's shenanigans with the Russians.
The fish to fry will be Warren if she runs for - president. She is a cheat and a liar.
[ In Reply To ..]This Warren lie exposure began years before Trump.
She took Native American Indian benefit to get a job by saying she was a Cherokee Indian. It was a lie. If not, she can go have her DNA checked to see if she is Cherokee.
Back when Trump was bragging about grabbing women? - Trump, show us your taxes! nm
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Here's the deal. Trump was elected. - Voters did not care about taxes or the video
[ In Reply To ..]Intelligent voters wanted change and Trump was the change they hoped for and voted for.
Politics/politicians/government is corrupt. That included Hillary and will include Elizabeth Warren.
Deal with those facts.
How can anyone - who supports DT
[ In Reply To ..]call someone else a cheat and a liar?
Oh, Please, I felt the same way about the Clintons and Obama's dictatorship - nm
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DNA testing ~ sm - Anoni~
[ In Reply To ..]Will only reveal that you have NA ancestry, not which tribe. The Feds stopped requiring your tribal ID on forms in the early 2000s, now when you fill out a form it just asks to check all that apply.
I'm 1/8 Cherokee and 1/16 Apache but have no tribal enrollment. That doesn't make me any less proud of the fact. Leave the woman alone! You don't have to 'prove" that you are of any other ancestry for it to be so.
Actually this is news. She is plugging her book - and the Pocohontas thing came up again.
[ In Reply To ..]Bill Maher called her Pocahontas last night and Jake Tapper brought it up.
The only person who assassinated Warren's character was Warren when she lied about her Cherokee heritage.
Then again, the Cherokee Nation is pretty ticked off at her and pointing out what a liar she is and why she is a liar.
the real issue are those who belittle and diminish by namecalling - disgusted - nm
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Look if you are a public figure, especially a - politician, people call you names.
[ In Reply To ..]Can't stand the heat, get out of the public eye.
But you're ok with people doing that to Trump or republicans in general? - anon
[ In Reply To ..]Liberal left = hypocrites and not even smart hypocrites.
The left loves to ridicule and mock, but when the tables are - turned back on them they don't like
[ In Reply To ..]it. Even Bill Maher calls Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas.
I thought her claim was ridiculous but wondered why, - what benefit was there for her
[ In Reply To ..]I researched and here is a little background on the lie and the reason for it.
Some perspective on federal reporting - Institutional human resources
[ In Reply To ..]I have worked with 2 public agencies before I became an MT. By definition, public agencies receive grant funding from various sources to accomplish their objectives. By law, one place I worked at nurses had to have a valid license, have been tested for tuberculosis, have proper documentation (I think it was an I-9 form) showing citizenship and they also were asked to complete a form documenting gender, ethnicity, disability, military status, etc. Human Resources actually felt somewhat pressured to document any variations from "healthy, white male" status to prove they were not discriminatory. I am pretty sure this is what would have happened to Elizabeth Warren working in a University setting that receives all kinds of grants.
Obviously she did not produce documentation - she was a Cherokee Indian.
[ In Reply To ..]Cause she is not.
All she had to do was check a box on a form that was provided to her - sm
[ In Reply To ..]Who knew working for the government could be so hard that you have to understand that completing a documentation form is not the same as providing tribal certification? It was a simple check list. I recall HR manager asking if there was "any" minority status. She did not ask if there was 25%, 33.3% or if there was proof. It was voluntary.
Why claim minority status? Really? - Tired old MT
[ In Reply To ..]I would assume she does this for VOTES, duh. She obviously doesn't need the benefits of the tribe but she sure can use their vote to get herself elected. Unfortunately, lying about your heritage and then being found out is worse than not having the vote to begin with. She'll figure it out.
Hillary claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. - She wasn't, but that doesn't matter.
[ In Reply To ..]They get away with making outrageous claims all the time.
Donald Trump called radio shows pretending to be someone else. - tangled webs - nm
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1 drop of Native blood and your Native American - LMT
[ In Reply To ..]bottom line... My husband is Native American and I have a sister-in-law who is also Native. So one drop in your blood stream is all you need. However, the tribes determine it is up to them.
This shouldn't even be an issue on the political board.... Has nothing to do with the doofus in office now.
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