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Disaster for Democrats is now a distinct possibility


Posted: Dec 24, 2009

In the Washington Post, William Daley, the former Sec'y of Commerce under Clinton and campaign chairman for Gore, warns Democrats of the very real potential for a political meltdown on the horizon, citing numerous pieces of tangible evidence that the American people do not support the current administration's liberal agenda - ranging from the devastating poll numbers to the defeats suffered in recent gubernatorial elections to the defection and planned retirement of current Democrat legislators (with more likely in the future).

He then tries to give hope to the party if only it will move to the center, at least for the time being, but encouraging the loony left members of the party to continue to try to "nudge" the country toward their brand of socialism (which he delicately phrases as "persuading fellow Americans to see things from their perspective" -referring to the loons). 

Daley clearly believes that there is no chance now to avoid losses in 2010, but thinks that changing the message to one that is more centrist can avoid an utter debacle.

Daley, I believe, is much too optimistic, and gravely underestimates the long memory and deep resentment of the American voter when he has been played for a fool.  Obama's campaign posture was nothing if not much more centrist than he is or ever has been, and millions of Americans who drank his Kool-Aid will never forget that it turned out to contain poison.

During 2009, Obama and his loony associates tore off their masks and revealed themselves for what they truly are...and the American voter will not trust them again no matter how sweetly they try to sing the song of centrism and bipartisanship.

The ONLY hope for the Democrats in 2012 (because there is no hope for them in 2010) is if they take the highly unusual step of refusing to nominate Obama for a second term (they could use his sheer ineptitude for a reason if they're reluctant to blatantly repudiate his socialist philosophy and risk alienating the loonies completely), AND if they refuse to retain Pelosi and Reid in their leadership positions.

Since the chance of them doing any of these things to rid themselves of the taint of the political frauds that these three have perpetrated on the voters, a fraud that the voters will not soon forget OR forgive...we may start to put our money on a sea change in 2012 that might be even bigger than the one that is coming in 2010.

 

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Support lost - NJ

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Obama has lost support, as have the dems in Congress, but it's not because they've leaned too far to the left. It's because they've caved and compromised too much with the right.

It may well be a disaster. The next election cycle will tell. It seems that "constant campaigning" has become a fact of life now. I see anti-policy ads on tv every day. The left can only hope that such tactics keep the memories of sadder days fresh so that we don't give up.

NJ

Sorry, but - you are sadly mistaken.

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Obama has lost support from the extreme left fringe element, yes. However, the vast majority of the loss of support has been in the center - i.e., independents. His approval with them is now down to 41%. Given that they were the ones who were fooled by him in 2008 and put him in office (not the lunatic left), if a Presidential election were held today he would lose by a landslide - and it will only get worse between now and 2012 because he's so inept that no one cares for him much no matter what their political position might be.

Approval ratings after a year - NJ

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Just for future reference, here's some past history from CNN. Carter and Bush Sr. finished well above 50% approval after their first year, but neither could get reelected. Reagan and Clinton finished below 50% and both won reelection.


At this point in time, approval ratings don't mean much.


Where is the support going? You might hope the moderates are going in some other direction, but it won't be supporting conservative views. The conservatives have driven out moderates in droves. The Scozzafava election comes to mind. (Even Rasmussen says republicans aren't gaining popularity.) Obama isn't in danger of losing his job.


For an interesting look at many issues and what polls say about them, try the Pew Research Center poll results. Interesting stuff.


NJ

Scozzafava is poor example. She was NOT really - conservative, most knew that.
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What about Chris Christie and New Jersey? Independents flocked to him in droves. So, no matter if the Independents don't turn into Conservatives, they are now VOTING for Republicans over Democrats. Obama himself has a lot to do with that.
He has 3 more years... - NNMT
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to keep screwing up.  Give him time and, even those who put him in office will have to face reality, whether they want to or not.  We all had HOPE for CHANGE but not from BAD to DISASTROUS.  ;-)

You really want to quote Rasmussen? - Fine. Here ya go...
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Rasmussen has a Republican beating a Democrat by 8 points - which he himself said last night was amazing, considering that in the beginning of Obama's term the generic Democrat had a 9 point lead. He has NEVER recorded a 17-point swing at any time in the past.

A whuppin's coming, and your side is going to be on the receiving end of it. You might as well believe it, because your own party leaders are already stuffing pillows down their trousers.

Strawman - anon

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I agree with the article (sm) - anon

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They will lose in the 2010 race...pretty conclusive now, but I agree that the only way they will win 2012 is if they pick another candidate and the current prez does not run again. The destruction of our economy, and our country by this prez and the current admin is so blatantly obvious. The only way I see him having a second term is within the next three years he is able to create a law that he and the crats will always be in power. Believe me, I have read articles showing that is the course they are trying to go, but I just hope it doesn't go that way. The consequences of that would not be very good.

Disaster for dems - Vikefan

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Gore's got enough trouble as it is - his faux global warming and the fact he made a lie of a movie, his extreme amount of carbon impints if there even is such a thing. Hey, at least he invented the Inernet. (eyeroll). Gore, Clinton and Michael More are all creeps. A lot of people are finding out what repubs have known for years - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING. Honestly, folks, do your reasearch. Don't be duped by people who are making things up just to get more money off of you.

I really think we'll have a record turnout at the polls this year and a record number of dems will be voted out. There has been too much apathy lately as far as voting. Not in 2010. Unless, of course, the DNC decides to start slashing tires of republican vans again. ACORN had better not be involved in this election.

loonies - loco

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I agree and hope it will be true. We do need to remove all libarals from power where they can do us no harm. the only real power we got is the vote, but than again onces in who knows what they will do. Bush wasn't so bad after all!

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