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Posted: Feb 13, 2014

Yeah, it's my mother. Maybe that says it all. She has told me she wishes she could change how she and my father parented my brothers and me when we were growing up. In the 60s and 70s nobody really thought about how to parent. They just did it, good and bad, so I'm dealing with the fallout of their choices just like every other person alive.  I think we've had the normal ups and downs, although my mother has been and continues to be a very critical, judgmental person, not just with me, but with everyone else (though not to their faces), so that is her personality. I was on the phone with her and mentioned that my husband, who had had back surgery recently, was irked that his kids hadn't called in a couple days to see how he was, and she said, "Well, he divorced their mother, so what does he expect?"  He and his ex-wife have been divorced for 25 years, and he and his kids have a good relationship. I was literally speechless. She then went into a mini-tirade about my husband, his kids, our jobs, our lifestyle. She then told me that she and my dad had gotten this great deal on tuna at Menard's, and when she was telling her Senior Citizens group about it, one of the ladies said told her that she herself had been to Menard's and that it wasn't a good deal because the tuna was off brand blah blah blah, and my mother was furious at being flatly contradicted! So I knew then that my mom was "sharing the wealth" of her anger, and it was at me.

I know my mom is by nature a high-strung person and have brushed off a lot of things over the years. But I find myself really wanting to tell her off. In my head I know it's the wrong thing to do, but in my heart I really actually believe that I would feel better if I did it. I'm wondering now if she has no respect for me for not standing up to her. I'm wondering if anyone finally told someone some unpleasant truths and actually did feel better. Thanks for letting me vent, if nothing else.

 

 

 

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Yes-Because - You do not want her angry with you

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...you don't want her angry with you and you don't want to give up hope that she's going to change.

If nothing else, maybe you can tell yourself this: Since she's like this with everyone, don't take it personally.

We don't know why our parents do to us what they do, and being brought up in the 60s-70s had nothing to do with being nice or not. However, you have to tell yourself that her wrath has nothing to do with you, it has to do with her.

I doubt you'd feel better telling her off. You'd feel disrespectful, whether she deserves a telling off or not.

Do we have the same mother? - hee-hee!

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We might be sisters because I'm pretty sure you're talking about my mother. :)

I wondered the same thing about my mom - What I have learned - sm

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I know how difficult it is to have a difficult mother. I now live with a guilt complex over everything wrong I did. Unfortunately mom my passed away 11 years ago and not a day goes by that I don't miss her. But the simple fact is she drove me nuts sometimes. She would say things to me that just made my mouth drop. One thing (funny story) in particular was white pantyhose. I liked white pantyhose with a pretty summer dress. We were walking in a mall one time and saw a girl walking down the mall with white panty hose. She looked at me and gave a grunting noise. I asked what's wrong and she said look at that, that is the most stupid thing I've ever seen. I asked what she said white pantyhose. I laughed and said I love white pantyhose. She looked at me like I was nuts and said well it looks stupid. I almost said "gee thanks mom", but in the back of my mind those ol wheels started turning. The next day we were going out somewhere sure enough, guess what I did. yup....showed up in white panty hose. (yes I was bad).

But after my mom died I started trying to look at her life from her point of view. She was a tough woman and there was nothing she couldn't do. She was a professional dancer (balet, tap & acrobat) started when she was 3 years old (I treasure every picture I have of her doing her dance routine. By the time she was 15 years old she was teaching and owned 7 dance studios to teach the town girls whose families did not have the money to send them to a fancy dance studio in New York. She made all their costumes. My mom sewed everything from costumes to clothes to dolls to drapes and quilts. She grew up in the 40s sister of a large family who didn't have a lot of money, but raised chickens. Very strict but loving parents. She learned to garden, can and bake bread to freeze. She knew how to pinch a penny and save. Woke up on the day of my graduation from 8th grade to find out she had stayed up all night sewing me a long dress so I would not look out of place. My mom had a hard life. Many of the things she did had their consequence, but she never let that get her down. She did have a "way with words" so to say, that were not always tactful, but she just said what was on her mind.

I too grew up in the 60s and 70s. Not sure what you mean by "nobody thought about how to parent". Everyone I knew of their parents knew what they were doing. We never had to "deal with their choices". It was life. Good and bad. Grew up where my mom and dad fought all the time (they finally divorced (thank God) when I was 18). Yeah sis and I had to live through that which was not fun, but that's the way it was. We learned right and wrong from the old wheeping willow tree and cutting our own switch, which most of the time was swooshed through the air so we would get the message, but on the rare occasion we did something really bad we were spanked (not beaten). Though I have to say sometimes I don't think they spanked me enough cos boy could I be a brat when I wanted to growing up and probably gave them more grief than they wanted. Except dad. He didn't spank, he lectured (which was worse - 2 hour lectures Ughs LOL).

Anyway...I came to realize over the time since she has been gone that she was her own person. We are alike in some ways but totally different in others. I will always live with the guilt of all the bad I did (leaving home, never giving her grandkids to enjoy, among all the other issues), but I know she was a different person and I love her for everything she did for me. I've forgiven her for all the nasty things she used to say to me realizing that sometimes she may have not meant them, but only said in frustration or without thinking, and now truthfully I can't remember one snarky comment she ever made to me (nor do I want to remember). I remember her for the person she was. A wonderful loving mother. Smart, outspoken, never afraid of any challenge she was asked of. I treasure the picture I have on my desk of me as a little girl and we were on vacation and there my mom had my hand tucked under her arm holding my hand. Not a day goes by I don't miss her and wish she was here so I could hug her and kiss her. She passed away from cancer and to know the suffering she went through makes my heart ache. I'm glad I could get back as much as I did. Always will wish I could have done more for her, but that's life. Now I now she is up with our Father and finally reunited with my baby sister who died when she was just 17 months old and I'm glad they are together again with my grandparent there too.

Time will ease your frustration. I think moms always think of their children as still being children. At 30 years old married and a life of my own when I would go back to visit I felt like that 13 year old I used to be. My mom had a way of making me feel like a child again and she was the mother in charge and now I am okay with that. I just miss her so much.

What I have learned, I love your post - so insightful for someone your age

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One thing that I was able to do before my mother died was to ask for forgiveness and it meant the world to me. I wanted her to say she forgave me for anything I had ever done wrong, anything didn't matter. She said, "of course, honey" and that minute the world was lifted off my shoulders. My husband asked me if she asked me for forgiveness and I said, that did not matter, I needed to hear from her I was forgiven. I was not a terrible kid, not into drugs, drinking and the like but I sure liked to run with the guys, my goodness. I surely had my fun but am sure she must have missed a lot of sleep while I was out with them. I miss her also.

Not a good idea - Been there

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My mother was exactly like yours, she died almost 5 years ago now. There were many times when I wanted to tell my mother off, she would just say the meanest, most callous things to me. I realized that telling her how I felt was just an invitation for more criticism. I was "too sensitive," not that she was harsh or hypercritical. Pointing out unpleasant truths would just be met with more unpleasantness hurled at me.

Even now, I have to accept that my mother never knew me, never wanted to know me. We had a very superficial relationship. We didn't talk about feelings or dreams or anything like that. I spent my life trying to be perfect to win her love. Isn't a mother's love supposed to be a given? I grieve for the mother I never had and try to get her voice out of my head. One thing that keeps coming back is when I put on makeup. I remember when I was 10 or 11 and wanted to start wearing makeup, you know what it's like. My mom did not wear makeup or have any interest in sharing that with me. So I went to a Merle Norman shop close to where I lived for a free makeover. When I got done, my mom said I looked like a clown. Even to this day, I think of that when I put on makeup. Humiliation when getting my first bra, first period met with an icy stare like I had committed a terrible sin. How dare I grow up!

Sorry for the rant, obviously I have mommy issues still. In the last few months of my mom's life, I read some books on how to deal with difficult parents and the only way I had to cope was to put on an invisible shield when I was around her. Not let her see any emotion, not let her provoke me into a fight, change the subject, be superficial. It helped a lot. I wish you the best, I know what you are going through. She won't ever change, no matter what you do. It's hard to not take it personally because she's the one person who you should be able to feel safe with.

I can totally relate - NYMT

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Your mom could have been my mom. My big sister was always between my mom and me and I could never find a way to connect to her. She wasn't interested.

Now she's dying of Alzheimer's, probably in the next week or two. I'm 900 miles away and already told my sister I won't be coming to the funeral. I'm not going to miss her. How can you miss someone you never knew? It's sad, really. But, as someone once told me, you have two chances to have a mother/daughter relationship. I have my good one with my daughter. I'm being the mother I wish she had been.

LuckyULearned - MySister

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My mom ruined any relationhip I could have had with my younger sister (14 years younger). Since mom never had a nice thing to say about me, my sister grew up thinking I was "bad." Many times I have reached out hoping we could be sisters. Even though she is younger, she talks down to me and brags about all her accomplishments and how she and mom were so close. She's like my mother reincarnate, treats me with the same indifference/disdain. Even though I have a few feathers in my own cap, they never acknowledged my accomplishments. Do not miss mom at all and will not miss my sister. I have given up any hope in that regard.

Moms - My2Sense

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Many women from 1930s and 1940s were notorious for abusing and neglecting their kids and husbands. Verbal and psychological abuse was part of a baby boomer's life back in the 1950s and 1960s. It would have killed my own mother to say anything nice to me. I really felt like she was my worst enemy and could not get out of the house fast enough. The best way you can beat her at her own game is to be happy and enjoy life in spite of her. You are not alone.

Where do you get your statistics from... - Don't blanket statement everything

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Ridiculous commenting on many women from the 30s and 40s notorious. Psychological abuse part of our lives? The 50s were great times to be a youngster. The 60s were a little bit worse but not because of parents but so many tragedies happening then with leaders, MLK, Kennedy, both Robert and JFK but why blanket state everything. You might had had a life that sucked but not everyone had. I loved my early years.

"The 50s were great times to be a youngster." - Also a blanket statement

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Any time is a great time if it was great for *you.* What if you were a youngster in the 50s and had polio and were in an iron lung? Not so great then. I have no idea about statistics for parental abuse, but I do know that the number of kidnappings was very high in the 1930s and not just of famous people like the Lindbergh baby. The Depression was at its worst and people did some terrible things to survive. I have elderly relatives who lived through the 30s and 40s, and some had real horror stories about being farmed out to other relatives because their parents couldn't feed them, and some were very much abused.
I was speaking of myself as in great times in - the 50s to be a youngster
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We as kids were kept home from public swimming pools because of polio epidemic, knew no one in my life that had it, thinking back to the 50s it is not anything that comes to mind. My parents as well as grandparents lived during the depression. My maternal grandfather had a restaurant and my mother said she and her family never went hungry because of that. My father's family was different, siblings numbered 10, not actually going hungry but extremely lean days. Except for the well published Lindberg kidnapping, I never heard anyone talk about kidnappings, hardly makes sense to kidnap kids if you are having trouble surviving in the first place. I would much rather have been brought up in the time when I was younger than today. Born in the 40s and the kids I knew all well behaved, no cursing in school, knew no one with a drug problem, no one that drank, never saw a fight in my school (over 200 graduated my year) and family life to me was great. I am very proud of the kids in my graduating class because the majority seemed extremely motivated and went on to achieve much in life. Unlike today, what I see are kids at school fighting, cursing the teachers in schools, drugging, loss of self respect with naked pictures taken of themselves, sent to their special one only to be repeated and sent to all in their surroundings, parents not only abusing but killing their kids right and left, what's up with that? I remember first reading, keeping up with news as a very young kid, probably around 8 and I can guarantee you, serial killers were not something you read about on a weekly/monthly basis, mass murders were almost unheard of, really made the news then. I have no horror stories, my family never told me of horror stories, mother and father born in the 1910s and so glad I was born when I was and 50s, 60s were great times for me.
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Things were different in the 50s-60s when I grew up. Today, it's a big mess and I feel sorry for the children.

There are very troubled children these days, mostly because the parents aren't raising them properly, or even raising them at all. They're dumped in daycare as babies, so we have no direction from grownups, no guidance, no teaching.

There are broken families, new babies coming into the broken family, etc., etc., etc.

Back in the day, the parents stayed together. I hate when people say they fight because of financial problems. Back during the Depression, they figured it out, worked together, recycled clothing and got through it without destroying the family unit.

I feel sorry for our children today. They hurt so bad they have to take drugs, drink alcohol, commit horrendous acts to be heard. Very sad.

Back when I was in high school, there were maybe 2 people in the entire senior class who were messed up---drugs, getting in trouble, etc., and they stuck out like a sore thumb. Nowadays, if there are 2 people who aren't messed up, they stick out like sore thumbs.
50s and 60s Parents - TooStrict
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Because codes of behavior were much stricter back in the day, perhaps too much so, many baby boomers coddled their children to the point of no rules or guidelines. So, today, the kids do not know where they stand and sometimes show little respect because they were not taught to consider others feelings before their own.

Thank you all for your insights - OP

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The one good thing about MT is that it brought me to this board where there are so many good-hearted women. Thank you all for taking the time to post.

What I Have Learned - I admire you for seeing beyond your mother's comments and focusing on her positive qualities. I've never confronted my mom, but after all these years my silence is starting to feel really false. I don't want to be in your situation where my mom is dead and I have regrets. I don't want to say to myself, well, at least I never told her off. I want to say mom and I finally understood each other even if we disagreed. (BTW, I smiled at your "white panty hose" story. I bet your mom probably did, too, even if she never said anything. Don't feel guilty! You were a better daughter than you think.)

Not A Good Idea - Just...wow. I wish I knew you in Real Life and not just on the net. You were able to describe what I couldn't--that my mother doesn't know me as a person separate from her belief of who I am and maybe doesn't want to. I hope that's not true. The part about the makeup? That's what I meant about growing up in the 60s and 70s, that parents didn't think how comments and actions might affect their kids. There were no books about parenting, no idea that a timeout might be more appropriate than slapping a 6-year-old across the face. I envy those of you who had parents who disciplined without violence. Mine certainly did. By the time they had grandkids the world had changed, and I know my mom regrets many of the things she did. I think you are probably right that telling her off would invite defensive mean comments, and I don't think I'm ready to get "back in the ring" for another round right now. I'm still hoping that I wont' have to go the "shield route" where the best I can hope for is to have a superficial relationship where at best I don't get hurt. I think some mothers do love unconditionally, but we didn't get that kind.

And cyber-candy Valentine's Day hearts to all of you that say "So Sweet."



Part of moving on - Is...

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Part of moving on is letting go of hope (even a small hope of a superficial relationship). Hope keeps us in disappointment mode. We hope something will be one way, then we're let down when it doesn't go that way.

I would drop the "hope" part and just know that her behavior has nothing to do with you. I don't believe the era one was brought up in makes much of a difference in terms of nice people and mean people. There are parenting classes nowadays, but mean people are mean people and don't care about their kids' feelings.

I handled my horrible mother situation by just moving on - EASIER SAID THAN DONE, YES! But the end result of my choosing a good man, making a full life for my life without her (I chose to break all ties with her), ended up being very sweet revenge. I flourished as a human being without her in my life.

I never think telling someone off is a good idea. I never told my mother off, I just broke all ties with her. I'm not saying you should do that, but the fantasy of telling someone off is usually more "fun" than the actual end result of telling the person off. It accomplishes nothing except to temporarily relieve your own tension.

Best of luck to you. You have internalized so much of her.

And to anyone reading this who is treating their child like crap, remember this thread. If you have an ounce of feeling in your bones, you'll stop being horrible. Is that how you want your kid to remember you? Mean, horrible? Think about it.

To the OP - Anon

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My relationship with my mom was a combination of all you posters. To try to summarize, my mom was from another country. My dad met her when he was stationed there. My dad was an abusive alcoholic. Because my mom tolerated his abuse (including physical), I grew up having no respect for her. (Of course, I hated my dad.) I moved out of my parents’ house the day after I graduated from high school. Four years later, I moved to the other side of the country. I never had much of a relationship with my mom (and had no relationship with my dad). Unfortunately, I was not a good daughter. I had a smart mouth with my mom, was very disrespectful, and didn’t hesitate to tell her off. At one point, we got into a huge argument on the phone, and I didn’t talk to her for almost a year. When I finally decided to apologize, for some reason, she decided to tell me about her life before she came to the USA with my dad (she didn’t share this with my siblings). She had mentioned several times during my childhood how she didn’t get along with her own mother (her father died when she was a young child), but none of us kids knew why. During that phone call, she told me everything, and it just broke my heart. I cried for days and cry about it now when I think about it. I wonder if I would’ve been more understanding and accepting of her had I known of her childhood and life before moving to the USA. I also wonder if I would’ve stayed closer to my hometown had I known more about her, rather than moving so far away. About a year after she told me about her life, she got cancer. The following year, the cancer returned, and she passed away. I deeply regret not being a good daughter. I have so much guilt about this. So, sometimes it’s better to just accept your mother as she is. There may be things about her past you don't know. You’ve gone this long without speaking your mind, and that’s probably a good thing. You don’t have to be a doormat, of course, but maybe tell her in a respectful, kind way how she makes you feel. Regarding what others said about cutting ties with their mothers, I understand that as well. I did that with my dad (my parents never divorced) and have no regrets. I didn’t miss him after he died as I always hated him and never had a relationship with him anyway. I think being a parent is the most difficult “job” there is. I chose not to have children, partly because I thought I would be a bad parent, considering the role models I had. All my siblings have kids, however, and they’ve done very well at parenting and have raised some good, respectful children.

Well... - see msg pls

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That's a lovely note. I just get a little "irked" when victims excuse bad behavior, because the perpetrator had a bad past. Very often,the perpetrator brings it up to the victim as a way of having the victim feel sorry for them, thereby not being angry with them.

I think we should have compassion and all, but to put up with abuse is just over the top. We can have pity and feel bad for the person, but it doesn't mean we have to lie down and take it.

Your mother also made a bad choice in a man and chose to have children with him, so that's a big bad right there. She placed more than herself in harm's way.

I wish you the very best. I'm glad you have felt some peace, but you did nothing wrong.

At least you understood your mother eventually - Still trying

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You don't say much about your mother's circumstances before she met your father, but many women married American soldiers because things in their own countries were bad. If she came here not knowing the language and without an education, she probably felt trapped and had to stay with him. If she were Catholic, birth control was out, and birth control before the Pill was sort of hit-and-miss anyway. You say that you were disrespectful, but had you known about your mother's experiences your actions would have been different. You are blessed in that she shared painful issues in her life with you which gave you that understanding. As the above poster said, you did nothing wrong, and I hope you can truly forgive yourself.

My mother (who is alive) grew up in a well-to-do family, so she did not have to struggle that way, but her father favored his sons over his daughters and would often tell my mother (his oldest child) that it was too bad she wasn't a boy because she was by far the smartest, but his sons would be the ones to run the family business. She had a good career as well as marrying and having a family, so maybe her feelings of being second-best are why she is so demanding and critical. My weak spot is my husband, whom she didn't want me to marry, but he is the greatest guy, and after all these years she likes him and they get along. But when she wants to irritate me, she criticizes him and says mean hurtful things and always refers to him as "your husband." So he's "Ed" when he cleans out her gutters, but "your husband" when we couldn't afford to go on a cruise with them. In person, I raise my eyebrows and give her "the look" (thanks, mom, you taught it to me!) so she backs off, and on the phone I find a reason to end the conversation politely. We have many other issues as well, but the one with the husband bothers me the most.

So what are the choices? Silent anger and misery now or guilt and regret later? From the above posts, it seems like this is the choice. I take it personally because it *is* personal. It's not like she has Tourette's and truly can't help it. She could if she wanted to, but her need to make herself feel better overrides her feelings for me, her daughter. It seems more like a chess game than a mother-daughter relationship.

Your last paragraph - Been there

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I don't think there is a choice, I've gone through all of those emotions, some more, some less. You're right, it is personal. What else could it be? I can remember as a very young child coloring in a coloring book with my mom. Her pictures were always perfect and she was quick to point out where I went outside the lines. I mean what kind of person needs to make themselves feel superior over a 4-year-old? And what message did that send me for the rest of my life? I was never good enough for her, could never do anything right, never win her approval. As an adult now, I can see that it was her need to feel superior and it was nothing I did, but at the time and as a young adult, it was very damaging. I think my mother had a deep-seated fear of abandonment, so she did everything she could to isolate me, put down my friends, her family, anyone she saw as a threat who might get close to me or give me what I needed. When I went on vacations twice, I called her and she told me she had been to the doctor and found out she had hypertension the first time and diabetes the 2nd time. She felt the need to worry me during my vacations. I remember coming back and being angry with her for making me worry and ruining my vacations and she just smiled.

At the end of her life, I just felt pity. I didn't abandon her, but she was not capable of believing that I loved her. I was an only child and she truly was alone. All of her siblings, my aunts and uncles were the same. When my mom was on her deathbed, no one came. I asked my uncle to come and he said "why, I will just have to make another trip for the funeral?" He only lives an hour away. In 5 years, only 1 aunt sends me a Christmas card. I have 5 aunts and 2 uncles. The rest I have not heard from in 5 years. They are like my mom and I don't want that in my life anymore. It's a very slow process, but there is hope for you to change, find the love you deserve in your life because she will never change.
So many messed up people - Surviving
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The thing about the coloring book just makes me wonder what do these parents think they are accomplishing by making a 4-year-old feel inadequate. Was it so that you would work harder and turn into a champion at coloring so they would look good? Or any of the other thoughtless things they do whether it's about weight or school performance or whatever. I hate the way kids today seem to feel entitled to everything they are given by overindulgent parents, but on the other hand maybe they are happier believing their parents think they are wonderful and special. The world will straighten them out, but at least they can feel that their parents aren't criticizing their every move.

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There are lots of choices. One of them is to just move on. You do not just have the 2 choices of silent anger now or regret later. You have the choice to stop coddling to her.

I'm also thinking, why do you have your husband clean out her gutters, when she clearly has no respect for either of you? If I was your husband and you asked me (or she asked him), I would not clean the gutters. So, she makes believe she has respect when she needs something? That is extremely rude of her and I would not tolerate that behavior. By that, I mean I would not go over and lift a finger for her.

It's very hard as adults when we have difficult parents. It seems we never stop being the child who doesn't want their mommy or daddy angry with them. But sooner or later, we have to grow up. Psychological counseling can be of great benefit if you are trapped in that mode and simply can't get out on your own.

My husband is a better person than I am - Way better
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I should say that I don't tell him the very meanest of mean things she says because I don't want him to be hurt, but even with the things he does know or with things she says to him he is able to turn the other cheek and keep on going. I'm just not able to do that. To me it makes perfect sense to not do things for someone who has so much disdain for you, but he doesn't see it that way.

My Reply to Your Replies - Anon

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I’m the one who had the mom from another country. I hope I didn’t make it sound like I’m a victim, because I’m not. If anything, I’m the complete opposite. I would never tolerate spousal abuse, nor would I marry or stay with an alcoholic. My husband is the complete opposite of my dad.

I totally agree that my mother made bad choices and didn’t do her kids any favors by staying with an abusive husband (who was also abusive to us kids). Believe me, I threw that in her face a million times in my lifetime. After hearing how my mother’s mother abused her, I understand why she left her country and everything she knew for hopes of a better life. (My dad’s drinking apparently was under control while in the service.)

As Still Trying said, my mother didn’t know the language or culture when she moved to the USA. She absolutely was trapped, and that was the way my dad wanted it. He didn’t allow her to drive or work. When he finally was hospitalized for a month for his alcoholism, she got a driver’s license - in her 50s! My dad finally also “allowed” her to get a job, but it had to be in the same factory where he worked. She never got her American citizenship and, because of that, couldn’t take us to her country if she had left my dad. I had a therapist who said my mom did the best she could with what she had. I finally understand and agree with that statement, but a little too late.

I love your question about choices -- silent anger and misery now or guilt and regret later? It seems those are the choices. If not either of those, I guess the only other thing is to not have the abusive parent(s) in your and your family’s lives.

Hopefully what we have all learned from living that kind of life is how to be better parents ourselves (for those of you who chose to have children). Of my siblings, my sister especially has been a wonderful mother. I’m just in awe when I see her with her daughter. She is the complete opposite of either of our parents. So, at least some good came out of it all. My siblings learned how to be good parents by not repeating what our parents did, and we all learned to be strong, independent, and responsible (sadly, at an early age).

My mother-in-law and father-in-law are the kind of parents who think their kids do no wrong, and they coddled their kids. My sister-in-law (husband’s sister) was a spoiled brat growing up, never had to work in high school, got everything handed to her, etc. Now she’s in her mid 50s, had to start working for a living for the first time five years ago after her second divorce, doesn’t have two nickels to rub together (parents STILL pay her way, gave her a car, etc.), doesn’t even have a checking account or savings account, and will probably never be responsible and independent. She’s on her third job in five years, was fired from the first two, and her parents continue to make excuses for how it wasn’t her fault (co-workers were jealous of her because she’s so pretty and thin - LOL!). I don’t know what the right balance is, but my in-laws’ parenting style didn’t reap the greatest results with two of their three children (husband’s brother is a convicted felon and sister is useless).

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement! I appreciate it.

My "ex" mother - happy

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About 17 years ago I finally vented everything my mother had done to really hurt me my entire life. She never had a nice thing to say about anyone or anything. She is a negative toxic person who was causing me nothing but pain and seemed to be completely blind to it. She hurt me and my children. What do you do when your child comes to you and says why doesn't grandma love me? What about when your mother mentions in an offhand kind of way that your oldest daughter has no self esteem (I said it's hard to give your kids something you don't have. She did not have a come back for that). I don't regret it and feel as if a tremendous weight was lifted off of me. I have not spoken to her since. My oldest sister still lives with her and my brother still speaks to her so I have very little interaction with them. On Facebook my sister called me angry and bitter. Hard to believe she knows enough about me to make those comments since she never made even the tiniest effort to have a relationship with me EVER. I don't regret it at all and am happier than I could have ever been with her in my life as she is miserable and misery loves company and would bring everyone down around her. I can't live like that and will do what it takes to protect my children from that.

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