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Eating meat

Posted: Apr 24, 2010

Hi everyone! I am an avid animal lover and find I am feeling increasingly guilty about eating meat and poultry. However, I have put on some weight and want to cut way down on carbs as well. Can any of you very informative, intelligent people out there give me some guidance? My niece is now reading a book about whether or not to eat meat. She said it is brutally honest about the treatment of farm animals. I need to make a major change, not only because of my love for animals, but I need to have a more healthy diet. Can you please help? Thanks so much!

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Personally, I wouldn't worry so much about carbs in general. Rather, -- - SM

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cut down on (or, preferably, out) processed carbs -- things made with white flour or that are otherwise heavily processed.

Going vegetarian is probably the best way to improve your health as long as you do it sensibly. Personally, I'm lacto-vegetarian and allow myself dairy products (but no eggs); I just find a strict vegan diet too hard to adhere to in today's culture. (And, yes, I realize that even modern dairy farming leaves a lot to be desired in terms of how the animals are treated, but it's a compromise I've made for now to get me on the right path.)

It's also quite possibly to eat a very UN-healthy vegetarian diet by eating too much packaged, processed vegetarian foods. The best way to go is to cook as much as possible from scratch and/or to gradually increase the percentage of raw food in your diet.

Severely low-carb diets work by putting one's body into ketosis, which isn't all that healthy for you, particularly long-term. Instead, cut out the chemicals, the trans-fats, the corn syrup, and the heavily processed stuff.

Good luck.

Humans are not made out to eat animals - no meat here

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animals eat animals!

Best diet:

Fruits and vegetables
carbs taken from whole wheat and legumes (beans, lentils,etc...)

protein and calcium taken from plant sources.

Plant products are much better than animal products, especially regarding the fat, it is saturated fat, causing atherosclerosis, clogged arteries, heart attacks, etc....

Everything that is good in meat you can substitute with plant products.

Vit B12 you can take as supplement.

Think of it: Currently animals are given hormones, estrogen, to make them fat and cheaper!

With the meat you get also the additional estrogen, no wonder that men grow breasts and women get hormone imbalances.

Meat is also very acidic and makes your body go acidic.

Try to eat as much raw food as you can, preserve all the enzymes which are destroyed at temperatures above 55 degrees.

Your heading contradicts the - first line of your inside post

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Since humans are animals, and you state that "animals eat animals!" .. then by your own criteria, humans are indeed "made out" to eat animals.

Medium-rare please, with a side of horseradish.

I never thought of myself being an animal - no monkey here

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nm

But we are! - LK

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We are mammals, just like every other mammal. We have the same physiological systems as other mammals. Maybe you don't like the term animal, because of its connotations, but nonetheless, we are physiologically very much the same as monkeys, even if we "think" we are different.

I know that humans are mammals, but does - animal?

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this make us animals?

I thought that animals are "any such living thing other than a human being,"
and that the fact that we are the only mammals that walk on 2 feet (right?)makes us non-animals (or nonanimals).

But if we are animals, this makes me all of a sudden really feel animalistic. Then, to tell somebody "you are an animal" turns out not to be an insult at all, rather a biological classification, this makes me chuckle, or not.

I had to look it up! - LK

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There are at least 5 different definitions for "animal" in the dictionaries. The most common definition is any living multi-cellular organism, generally used in referring to mammals. However, a little further down the list is the definition you used. So I guess it depends on whether you subscribe to the broadest definition or one of the more specific ones. So I guess the jury is out on whether or not you should go animalistic on us, LOL!

right! lol, we 2 get a ball out of this, haha, now - animal/human

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I see everything in a different light, if I think it all over some humans are still more animal than human, we all know a couple of those...lol!

If we believe in Darwin's theory we certainly are animals, the highest developed and the most intelligent, this is also questionable with some animals/humans...lol!
Some are still stuck in between, OMG.

Better to stop now...

And at the TOP of the food chain - nm

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what do you mean? Are you talking about - ???

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cannibalism?

Thanks to all of you - Christine

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I really appreciate the replies to my post. Today I chose white fish and vegetables for dinner with my family. We went out together after we attended a hospice memorial service for those who passed away in 2009. My mother died in November. That is part of the reason for my weight gain. I am determined to make the effort now to take better care of myself. I was so involved with helping to care for the needs of my mother that I did not care for myself. Thanks again for your very helpful comments.

I forgot to mention fish, although animal, but cold-blooded - no meat here / sm

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and healthy fats.

You will get a wide variety of answers here, but. . . - LK

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I doubt that anyone on this board is an expert on diet and nutrition. No matter what you state about what is healthy to eat,someone will agree with you and someone else will disagree, particularly in regard to whether meat or carbs are most healthy. You can certainly have a healthy diet totally abstaining from meat. You can also have a healthy diet eating meat, there is nothing inherently wrong with it, other than the fact that too much saturated fat is not great for the cardiovascular system. I think everyone would agree that processed foods are not as healthy as whole, unprocessed foods. If you want to be a vegetarian, go for it, just make sure you get enough protein from other sources.

You can get a lot of protein from beans but - Backwards Typist

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not canned, must be dried. Also barley is good. Soybeans are supposed to be the greatest invention. From this you get edame (sp), tofu, and milk.

The cardiologist suggested my husband follow the (Dr.) Ornish diet. I bought a few of his books, but they are too strict for us, mostly vegetarian, but have been cutting back.

I also watch Dr. Oz every day. He always gives suggestions for a healthier diet. He has a website that you can pick up a bunch of good ideas and there are recipes on there, too. There aren't too many recipes with real meat.

I've recently read soy beans need to be fermented - ***

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to be really useful for human consumption.

people who have hypothyroidism should NOT consume soy - thyroid

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nm

Grass-fed beef, small local farmers, organic producers - ***

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I grew up on a farm in Iowa and cannot live w/o beef. However, I also feel guilty about big agri-business.

Check out US Wellness Meats. There are other small farms which grass feed w/o additives, treat the animals well, and sell to the consumer.

Grass-fed beef has healthier nutrients and fewer calories. You can also find REAL free range, farm-raised poultry, raised and slaughtered more humanely than by Tyson, et al.

I live on a beef farm - sm

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It's my husband's family's actually but it's the only red meat we eat because we know where it came from and what it was fed and how it was raised, which is on acres and acres of pasture with lots of grass and hay from the farm and the feed they make themselves from their own corn. We also eat venison if they are lucky to get any deer during hunting season, and before anyone jumps all over me about hunting, save your breath because I won't reply. I grew up surrounded with hunters and DH and my kids all hunt and venison is delicious.

As Ron White said - I didn't get to the top of the food chain by eating carrots.

Eating Meat - Christine

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Thanks for this post. It sounds far different than the horror stories of docking tails with no anesthesia and animals packed together so tightly they can't move, standing in their own waste. There is a more ethical, humane way to do things. You have given me some hope that some are living in more acceptable conditions.

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