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This underhanded administration

Posted: Jul 7, 2017

is now sending out fake news items undoubtedly hoping that the various news organizations will bite and then try to discredit them. The attack on the press needs to stop. Nothing is more un-American.

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This sounds like it - is right up old

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Bannon's alley for some reason. I am sure though that Trump rubbed his hands together in glee when the idea was broached! Sad state of affairs in our country these days to be sure! Drain the swamp my backside! We are filling it up with new swill!

You have this exactly backwards. - SMH/RME

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NOTHING is more un-American than the relentless attacks on the President of the United States by radical leftist zealots, some of whom I swear troll this board.

No she does not! - The most

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Un-American thing that anyone can do is tear down one of the Amendments to the Constitution. By trying to manipulate the press (which is protected under the First Amendment, in case you need to read it again), this undercuts the free press for the benefit of who else? Trump of course. just like everything he does is only for his benefit and his 1% buddies and the rest of us be damned.

Yes, she does! She has it exactly backwards. - sm

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Just look at all the good FNN is doing these days. NOT!

I see you received your talking points memo on this. Good for you. Carry on.

Well that - sure told me!

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NOT! Have a great day!

I don't know - old and burned out

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what Trump and his administration have to do before his die-hard supporters realize what a con-artist he is and how unfit he is to hold office. Perhaps when something hits home? Of course then you will just blame the previous administration or the long-dead Sol Alinsky. You can call the dissenters radical leftist zealots; I call them (and me) patriots.

Have cited anything true? Any proof? Of anything?! - I know! sm

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I don't know what it will take either. But if you could cite something true, with proof, that would be a good starting point.

All I see in your posts are regurgitated liberal talking points. I don't see any evidence that you've even thought through the implications of what you're posting. It's just a copy and paste of what you've read somewhere. You're not even making an appeal to the other side's reasoning ability.

Newsflash: It will take more than liberal talking points to convince the Trump die-hards. I hope you realize and understand that fact.

And what you post is original? - old and burned out

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Of course my posts are based on what I've read and heard. This administration is rescinding regulations on clean air, clean water, food safety, etc. Information on this is everywhere and I don't have to do the research for you; all you need to do is read. So if you or your family develops a food-borne illness or the dirty air aggravates someone's asthma or the dirty water kills wildlife in your area and it starts to stink then maybe you will realize this administration is to blame.

BTW did you know that DT tried to hire the top four law firms in D.C. and they all turned him down because he has a history of not paying his bills? What a role model!
That is not a liberal talking point. That is a fact!

Aside from your last paragraph, - sm

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which I cannot prove nor disprove, the rest of your post is blatant talking points from the radical lefties. You do regurgitate everything, there is never anything original. A lot of us choose to be happy, as indicated in a post here today by a former liberal. Why don't you try what she did and see what you'll learn instead of believing all the tripe that you hear from the MSM. Good Golly Miss Molly! Wake up!!!

Her last paragraph is a good example - Respectfully disagree sm

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Her last paragraph is a good example of biased liberal talking points. There's no mention that there could be other reasons why DC lawyers wouldn't take the case. And she doesn't think it through before posting.

For example, assume it's all true. Trump is a bad credit risk and doesn't pay his bills. Why wouldn't the DC lawyers just make him pay upfront? "Our retainer fee for the next 6 months is... pay us now to retain those services." That sort of thing is very common.

Yep, that paragraph is a perfect example of not thinking it through and just posting the hate. It's sad really.

Prove her last paragraph. - Einstein

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If you can.

If proven correct, who cares anyway? They're probably more leftwing loons.

Did you see anyone else (MSM or otherwise) critique Maddow? - Metadata Original sm

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I wrote the metadata post below. Does that look original to you?

I did not know that DC law firms turned down Trump for not paying his bills. Yes, that's a real fact unless you read the Washington Post which doesn't mention non-payment of anything.

The Post cites other reasons:
"That idea has been largely shelved because the attorneys have conflicts of interest or scheduling, prefer not to work for Trump, or have associations with Democrats that have made the White House uncomfortable. Kasowitz, meanwhile, is said to be leery of bringing in a lawyer who might want to be a co-counsel or take over the case."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-legal-dream-team-falters-as-dc-heavyweights-take-a-pass/2017/06/06/a6eb6e9a-4aea-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html

Of course, Yahoo News had anonymous quotes saying Trump wouldn't pay and wouldn't listen. But we all know how anonymous quotes get you guys in trouble.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-top-law-firms-turned-requests-represent-trump-122423972.html

Still the ultimate question: Is that supposed to convince the die-hard Trump fans?

Let's try a different tactic:
* What did it take to convince you that Hillary's email server broke the law?
* What did it take to convince you that Obama weaponized the IRS against grassroots conservative groups effectively silencing their first amendment right to free speech?
* You mention the environment. When did you stop believing the 20 year old statement that we're only 5-10 years away from an imminent climate catastrophe, unless we start making drastic changes?

It amazes me - sm

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At how backwards and twisted the leftist can make this spreading fake news actually believing it is true.

The most un-American thing anyone can do is not support our country. That means supporting our President. Americans should be supporting the president whether or not he is a democrat or republican. Especially with someone who is already helping the country, getting jobs back, dumping Obamadoesntcare, etc, etc.

It is unfortunate in this day and age about the fake media organizations. They are no longer reporting news, but instead spreading propaganda just like Hanoi Hanna, Tokyo Rose and others. The dangerous thing is that some people actually believe them. They are no longer American's, but have become enemies of the the free world. They need to be shut down. They are no longer news stations, but enemies. They and their followers are not patriots.

President Trump ran for office. He got the majority of the votes (that is the legal votes). The country voted him in as president. The leftists/communists need to get a grip and comes to terms with this. In the past we didn't like certain presidents, but they were voted in and so we waited patiently for 4 more years to cast another vote. The leftists need to sit back and wait 4 years just like we had to.

President Trump so far has not proven himself to be a con artist. He is doing what he promised he would. Of course he can't do everything overnight, but he is improving our lives. Out of all the candidates that ran for office he IS the most fit and qualified for the office.

Obama and the democrats/coms are the Kings and Queens of blaming the previous present for everything that happened. They never take/took responsibility for the problems they caused. It was way to easy to blame Bush.

I don't call the radical leftist zealots. I call them enemies and demons. The little roach-flakes throwing a fit because the Dairy Queen's cheating in the election didn't pay off for her. The ones yelling at their professors, telling them to shut up, screaming and using language unfit for anyone sane, breaking windows, death threats, holding up severed heads like ISIS, saying you want to do things, and the disgusting list goes on and on. No, they stopped having any empathy or being a good person. Something has taken over their souls and it is not good.

I hope someone is wearing a wire. - nm

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And I hope - old and burned out

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that the source of all this fake news coming from this administration can be found one way or another.

Metadata is easy to fake and probably was - in fact... sm

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Okay. Just for fun. Let's assume someone in the Trump admin DID send a faked document. They would have had to fake the metadata she cites in the timeline mentioned at the 15 minute mark in your video. How do I know this? Easy. I used Maddow's timeline.

Follow along and see if you agree.

These are facts cited by Maddow in the video:
1. Metadata in the document sent to Maddow dates to a time before the Intercept published the document, but after the time that Winner was in jail.
2. The document sent to Maddow appears to be a bad copy/paste job based on what was published by the Intercept.

Maddow's conclusion is that someone in the government had access to the unpublished document and used that create the fake. This is wrong.

If the government had that original unpublished document (with the matching printer dots and the crease) it would be locked away in evidence. According to Maddow, Winner was already in jail on 6/3. Basic rules of evidence handling mean no one is getting to that document until the trial. Otherwise, there's evidence tampering and the whole case blows up.

Even if someone in government wanted to create a fake based on this document, they would have had to change the metadata, since the original would be evidence at the time the fake was created, according to the metadata.

Let's look at metadata. It's a timestamp based on when the file was saved. Want to fake that? Set the time on your computer back a few days. Then create and start editing the forged document. Save and you're done. Change your computer time back to normal and send to Ms. Maddow. As long as you don't edit/save the document again the metadata with the old date/time stays intact.

Yes, I agree it's a forgery and news outlets should be careful. But I disagree with the conclusion the forgery came from the administration. There's just no way to prove that based on the evidence she cites.

It's more likely that some random person sent her an explosive document with faked metadata.

You should be more careful and try to discover how things actually work before jumping to outlandish conclusions like this.

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