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So how much difference would
Posted: Sep 7, 2012
A peek at the Clinton years would be our first clue.
GOP spoilers point us to the BLS report this morning. OK. Here’s another one they published shortly after Clinton left office:
The Clinton administration presided over the longest economic expansion in history. 22.4 million jobs were created, 92% which were in the private sector. The UE rate was 3.9% the October before the war-on-surplus candidate was elected. Minorities enjoyed the lowest UE rate on record. Manufacturing jobs growth was at its highest in 50 years and growth in real wages was the fastest and longest in 3 decades. The inflation rate was the lowest it had been since the 1960s.
If jobs, jobs, jobs are voters' top priority, then obviously they should keep the incumbent president with the right policies in the White House and boot the down-ballot Congressional obstructers with the wrong attitudes out on their ears.
Obama/Biden 2012 straight ticket. All. The. Way.
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Fri_Nov_3_134817_2000.html
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i knew it!!! it's not from the BLS. It's from the WH itself. - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]As soon as I saws the words "before the war-on-surplus" candidate was elected, I knew it didn't come from a neutral site.
How 'bout sticking with facts or is that too hard for you?
Yes. Republishing works that way. So does giving credit - where credit's due.
[ In Reply To ..]BLS reports are a matter of public record. Using arithmetic allows us to generate factual data. That data gets recorded in the annals of history.
If you want to argue with the contents therein, that's your prerogative, but if you expect to be taken seriously, citing some reliable sources would be the way to go, the same way the article did at the top of the page, indicating its content was derived from BLS reports.
To point you in the right direction, here's another link. Scroll down to the bottom of the piece and start sifting through the extensive bibliography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Bill_Clinton
When I cite reliable sources, your side does not believe them - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]and gives dislike ratings all the time. Doesn't bother me, though, because I know I published the facts and not blog/opinion pieces.
Your source was unreliable. The WH will say anything they want. I was just pointing out that the story came from the White House. :-)
Finding that bibliography intimidating, are we? - BLS is mother of all databases
[ In Reply To ..]on jobs-related economic analyses. Their numbers and the leaders who are familiar with the concepts of elementary arithmetic who know how to add and figure increasing percentages (the only two functions needed to assess the Clinton economy) tell a different story than your sourceless claims, based on sour grapes over a flawless presentation by a much respected and accomplished president.
Why are you avoiding the whole point of the OP, which is what would have happened and could happen still if the GOP were not so bent on hate, destruction and raw power and, instead, made the simple decision to go to DC and do the job they were elected to do? You, I and the rest of all voters know very well we'd be looking at different jobs numbers this morning and the economy would be in much better shape. The only real campaign issue under that set of circumstances would be that of Romney's utter lack of ANY PLAN WHATSOEVER that address middle class interests.
Why do those on the left not believe in truth? - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]It's not the GOP who are "so bent on hate, destruction, and raw power" as you put it. If you could see the truth, you would see where the hate lies.
I didn't say the BLS was a lie. I said it came from the White House and I don't believe a darn thing the WH says anymore.
Believe it or not, I had that HOPE and CHANGE for the country when he was elected but was uneasy because his plans had TOO MANY PROMISES to be able to get anything done.
In my research (watching CSPAN and Youtube vids) over the past 3 years, words from his own mouth, that HOPE and CHANGE turned into "Uh-oh, we're gonna be in trouble big time" and you have to agree that we are.
I gave him a chance and he blew it the first year with his arrogance.
The OP is about Clinton's stellar mgmt of the economy, - how that was accomplished
[ In Reply To ..]with hard-fought cooperation from Congress, and how it relates to our nation's current status. When you are prepared to cease and desist from the distraction of attacks on reliable sources and irrelevant bashing, and instead take a stab at discussing the topic, let us know.
Not attacking credible sources. Attacking the WH site - backwards typist
[ In Reply To ..]"war-on-surplus" comment.
Clinton did not have stellar management of the economy either. Sorry, but no president does a "stellar" job. He made some mistakes, too. When he left office, unemployment was 4.2%. That's good. He also worked with both sides of the aisle, but when GWB was elected, the other side decided they wouldn't work with him. So part of the problem may be tit-for-tat because of this.
Still, the unemployment rate for Bush between 2001-2007 ranged between 4.2% to 4.5%. That's not a bad rate either. Yet some people on this board could see nothing good about Bush and hate him with a passion.
BTW, Bush tried to get Congress to regulate/reform Freddie and Fannie which the dems refused (there's nothing wrong with Freddie and Fannie) because of the sub-prime mortgages. When the housing market crashed thanks to those sub-prime mortgages (thanks to Bill Clinton stating everyone should be able to buy a home), that was what started the whole ball rolling.
Sorry, but ALL politicians are liars, but Obama has been the biggest liar of them all-his sound bites prove it...and sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into another presidential comparison, but I just hate it when people have tunnel vision.
Donning blinders to credits the article gave in its first sentence - amount to
[ In Reply To ..]support for a big fat majority of one opinion....your own, as does discounting the scores of sources provided in bibliography linked above. Recalcitrance and refusal to engage in well known, well documented factual content is as impressive as the performance we have witnessed in Congress since 2010. You obviously cannot argue from a credible viewpoint, so I think it's time to let the OP stand on its own content.
I agree with your 100 percent but don't you - think offshoring SM
[ In Reply To ..]plays a big part in so many jobs lost? Bringing jobs back home is the only way our economy is going to get better IMO.
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