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Reject any political message that encourages class envy,


Posted: Aug 12, 2015

All are base, vulgar appeals that it should shame any of us to ascribe to.

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Well, there goes Bernie Sanders' whole campaign. - What you got against the little old commie?

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Oh, tell me, tell me, do.

Oh my, my, what ever happened to all the - sm

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enlightened open-minded conservatives who previously said they will check out the candidates, Dem or Pub, with an unbiased attitude.

Don't tell me, I already know.

Checked him out. - Stamped him "REJECT"

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The man is a loon, for which he could be forgiven, if he weren't a vituperative, divisive loon whose entire case is based on an appeal to the lowest instincts of the voter.

What - did you imagine that "check them out" meant "approve of them"??
Get used to saying President Sanders - Oh happy day
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You may need an esophageal dilatation so I would start now.
Don't you think he will just go by Bernie - sm
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I am really big on the respect thing--President Bernie Sanders
President Barack Obama.

but seeing as it's Bernie...I'm not sure, he might just go by Bernie.
Sanders has as much chance as a chicken at a KFC - all-you-can-eat buffet. nm
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Sanders is appealing - sm
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to those Dr.Carson calls "useful idiots."

Envy is the root of this and politicians use it. - Cato Institute has an excellent analysis of

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this...

"It's time to expose the pretense of morality that is inherent in progressive taxation and to end the system of tax socialism that has eroded economic and personal liberties in the United States. Progressive income taxation should be abolished and replaced with a flat-rate tax on income or consumption — not just to enhance efficiency but to protect our rights to life, liberty and property.

In 1848 Marx and Engels proposed that progressive taxation be used “to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeois, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state.” Although communism has failed, the idea of progressive taxation, as a means of achieving “social justice,” remains ingrained in the modern liberal psyche.

A progressive income tax violates the very heart and soul of the Framer’s Constitution of liberty. Our constitutional democracy rests on the principles that individuals are equal under the law, that consent is the basis of just laws, and that the powers of the federal government are strictly limited. None of those principles are consistent with taxing incomes at progressively higher rates. The Supreme Court struck down early attempts to legislate a federal income tax, until the passage of the 16th Amendment in 1913. When the first income tax was passed by Congress in 1894, the New York Times called the legislation, “a vicious, inequitable, unpopular, impolitic, and socialistic act,” and the Washington Post added, “It is an abhorrent and calamitous monstrosity.”

Because there is no objective way to measure social justice, there is no end to the redistribution that can occur under a progressive tax system. Under such a system, neither persons nor property are safe from the hand of the state.

Conservatives and liberals alike fall into a populist trap by trying to justify some progressivity in order to satisfy the majority’s preference for greater income equality. Elevating the principle of democratic rule above the protection of individual rights to achieve equality of result, however, violates the very rules of just conduct that lie at the heart of a free society. A flat-rate tax is consistent with a rule of law and with the principle of nondiscrimination. Everyone would pay the same tax rate, and income from all sources would be taxed only once; there would be no double taxation of interest and dividends. If the flat-rate tax were applied to consumption rather than income, the current bias against saving would disappear and economic growth would increase.

One major benefit of a flat-rate tax is that it would make the cost of government expansion visible to all taxpayers, especially if combined with a balanced-budget amendment. There would be a built-in incentive to compare the costs and benefits of new government programs. The invisible hand of the democratic process would then work more judiciously to determine the size of government.

Under progressive taxation, on the other hand, there is a constant temptation to raise tax rates on the rich to pay for new programs. At the limit, persons with high incomes may face a marginal tax rate of 100 percent, while those with low incomes pay nothing. (During the 1950s marginal tax rates exceeded 90 percent in the United States.) That’s tax socialism in spades.

If we let constitutional principles be eroded by majority rule, in the name of social justice, then both freedom and true justice will be lost. Progressive taxation is not a virtue but a vice. It presumes that the property rights of the wealthy are not as sacred as the property rights of the poor and that the values of the majority are superior to the rights of the minority.

Those who support progressive taxation pretend to be on the moral high ground but, in fact, they have no ground to stand on. Envy, not justice, is at the root of the argument for discriminatory taxation. That is why those who most strongly advocate progressive taxation are in favor of the welfare state. “Law is the bond of civil society, and justice is equality under the law,” wrote Cicero. If we are to restore civil society and move from tax socialism to tax justice, we need to abolish progressive taxation, institute a fair flat tax and limit the size of government. Otherwise, class warfare and welfare will prevail."


When Obama came to power, I heard a woman call Rush's show - and ask what's so wrong with

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socialism, I knew America was in deep trouble and headed for the sewer. I knew Alexis de Tocqueville was right.

there is the problem - right there

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should not listen to him it is not good for your metal health.
I don't listen to him, Obama that is. Not only is he - damaging to your health, he's
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damaging to the economy and the future of my family.

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