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Keep explaining this away, Obama lovers
Posted: Jun 3, 2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/03/jobs-report-economy-unemployment_n_870925.html
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Obama lover here - S/M
[ In Reply To ..]He is just a pawn to the 1% of the population of the world who has the money. They are the ones ruining this economy really!!!! All this other hoopla is just to distract everyone from the truth.
But when Bush was in office... it was his fault. - Right? nm
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Naw he was just a pawn also, but I like Obama better anyway - nm
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At least Obama can pronounce the word - "NUCLEAR" correctly.
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And Bush can pronounce corpsman - yawn
[ In Reply To ..]What's the point?
...and Bush doesn't believe there are 57 states. - Things are worse under O than Bush.nm
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Boehner on 1 million jobs loss from GOP cuts: So be it. - Explain this.
[ In Reply To ..]During the lead-up to the 2010 midterm elections, Republicans repeated two slogans that invariably swept them to victory and control of the House. Keeping their word, they immediately held a ceremonial sham vote to repeal the new health law pleasing their supporters and seemingly fulfilling one campaign promise. Their other promise to create jobs has been mysteriously ignored and instead, Republicans proposed spending cuts that will cost the American people nearly a million more lost jobs. When the media informed Speaker John Boehner of the job losses, his flippant remark, “so be it,” demonstrated that the Republicans never intended to create jobs and didn’t care if they killed jobs with their spending cuts. Instead of creating jobs or helping the economy, the Republicans have spent four months on an issue that has been settled since 1973, and in the process have exposed themselves as misogynists who are pandering to the Religious Right.
The conservative wave has plunged the nation into an anti-choice frenzy that has produced nearly 1,000 anti-choice bills in state houses and Congress in four short months and there are myriad iterations in the works. This avalanche of anti-women’s rights bills is an attack of religious zealots disguised as teabaggers promoting fiscal conservatism, and is a clarion call-to-arms against democracy and secular government the Founding Fathers intended for America. The Republicans in Congress and state houses have tapped into the Reconstructionist fervor of the teabaggers by promising to promote their anti-government agenda, and along the way have left behind any pretense of creating jobs or fixing the economy.
On first glance the victims appear to be millions of Americans who are out of work because Republicans have given corporations permission to move jobs out of the country, but the reality is if the Dominionists are allowed to continue unabated, women’s rights will be eliminated before voters can oust the extremist element from positions of power and authority. Already this year, several states have begun defunding Planned Parenthood over the fallacy that it is an abortion machine, and socially conservative members of Congress have been unrelenting in their attempts at eliminating the organization completely. The dirty truth is that it is not just about abortion services that make up less than 3% of Planned Parenthoods’ services, or the cancer screenings the organization provides, but a sinister plot to destroy women’s rights to contraception.
Michele Bachmann gives insight into the Dominionists true impetus for eliminating Planned Parenthood and she boldly states that it is a target because it is “an arrogant corrupt Washington elite” that has “declared war on marriage, on families, on fertility, and on faith.” Indeed, extremist Christians view women as little more than “hyper-fertile wives and mothers in obedient service to god,” and they have infiltrated Congress and state legislatures to force all American women into subservient roles in society. However, mainstream conservatives, and especially teabaggers, see the battle as only eliminating a woman’s right to choose abortion.
In the Louisiana legislature, an evangelical maniac has a bill that is heading for a vote that outlaws abortion completely in the state. Representative John LaBruzzo’s total abortion ban is intended to provide a challenge to the 1973 Supreme Court decision allowing women the right to terminate her pregnancy. LaBruzzo gained notoriety for advocating jail for women who have abortions and rewarding rich people for procreating with extra tax incentives for “for college-educated, higher-income people to have more children.” In Indiana, Republican governor Mitch Daniels is committed to depriving all Planned Parenthood clinics of $2 million in Medicaid funds that will eliminate contraception services, cancer screening and prevention, and STD testing that mostly low-income women receive each year. Additionally, because it is illegal to deny payment to a clinic that provides constitutionally protected services, Indiana would face sanctions that will cost family-planning providers $4 million in Medicaid funding that will in turn cost countless jobs. The Republicans are willing to lose jobs to satisfy maniacal fundamentalists and fertility proponents regardless their campaign promise of jobs, jobs, jobs.
In Texas, Republicans passed a law that eliminates funding for a program that assists poor uninsured women to receive health care if a health clinic files a lawsuit and wins that will deprive 40,000 women of healthcare and family planning services. An Oklahoma legislator is proposing a bill that makes nutrition vouchers unavailable for the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) program if they are distributed through Planned Parenthood, and it will affect low-income women’s ability to afford nutritional food for their children. Planned Parenthood is one of 9 independent contractors in Oklahoma who are authorized to distribute WIC vouchers. It is a recurring theme for conservative Christian legislators to force birth on poor women and then starve the children the minute they exit the womb, and it calls into question exactly what “sanctity of life” means to Religious Right fanatics.
The list of Dominionists’ attacks on women’s reproductive rights and jobs is never ending and it is questionable how dedicated the Republicans in Congress and state legislatures are to the Religious Right’s agenda. There is little doubt that there are religious fanatics in Congress and state houses who are sincere in their effort to turn America into a theocracy as well as ban abortion, and the danger to America is real. However, Republican pandering to evangelical fundamentalists is not so different than wealthy industrialists and oil magnates Charles and David Koch pandering to ignorant anti-government teabaggers. Both teabaggers and fundamentalists are being played by neo-conservatives whose goal is turning the government into a private corporate enterprise.
A 2010 survey reported that 80% of teabaggers identified themselves as Christians, and 57% “consider themselves part of the conservative Christian movement” and it explains the drive to deny women’s rights among teabags. Republicans and conservative think-tanks have ignored or whitewashed the religious zealotry that underlies the GOP’s legislative agenda because mainstream supporters are reticent to endorse radical fundamentalists’ agenda. It is easier for them to manipulate separate groups like teabags with promises of small government, fiscal responsibility, and lower taxes than to come out and propose privatizing the government. The pushback against eliminating Medicare is proof that the conservative privatization agenda is not going to endear teabaggers or religious fanatics to the Republican agenda.
Yesterday, Republicans revealed a jobs plan that consists of lower taxes, eliminating regulations, and relaxing patent law so corporations are able to steal more from Americans. The jobs’ plan has proven ineffective in the past and will be difficult to garner support for; besides there is nothing new the American people haven’t heard before from Republicans. In fact, eight years of the Bush Administration failed to create sufficient jobs, and lower taxes and lax regulations are responsible for crashing the economy. It is easier for Republicans to gain support by following an anti-abortion agenda regardless that defunding Planned Parenthood and restricting women’s rights kills jobs.
The danger for Republicans is that when teabaggers and religious right fanatics realize that the GOP’s economic policies and privatization schemes will decimate Christians, the tri-corner hat crowd, and Americans’ jobs, they will crucify Republicans. Regardless how religiously motivated anti-abortion proponents are, even evangelical fundamentalists cannot subsist on anti-abortion legislation, and god cannot turn anti-choice laws into food and housing.
Republicans never had a plan to create jobs and they are using anti-abortion fervor as a distraction to curry favor with fundamentalist voters as well as subvert women’s rights. Unfortunately, there is still a year-and-a-half for Dominionists to wreak havoc on women’s rights and the poor who are collateral damage in the war on abortion and contraception. It is disheartening that in four months nearly 1,000 new anti-choice laws are advancing through state legislatures, but Republicans have not acted to create one job. The only connection to jobs Republicans can claim is the nearly 1 million jobs that will be lost if their spending cuts and anti-abortion measures all reach fruition.
It is imperative that decent Americans and reasonable Christians speak out in support of women’s rights while they have the opportunity, because if anyone thinks for a minute the Dominionists will not completely destroy any opposition to their theocratic agenda, they are deluded. Republicans will continue to spend time attacking a woman’s right to choose her own reproductive health to satisfy the Religious Right and teabaggers, but they will not create jobs.
If the Religious Right can feed their families with anti-choice legislation that’s great for them, but if they can’t, America’s secular government will provide assistance, health care, and maybe a job; if Liberals are in control. If Republicans and conservatives are in charge, as Eric Cantor and Republicans say; “they’re on their own.”
http://www.politicususa.com/en/abortion-jobs
link - icedT
[ In Reply To ..]Really? The HuffPo?
There's 5 minutes I'm never going to get back! 
Back to work...
Before launching your next snipe, might wanna - clean up those specs
[ In Reply To ..]The original post...you know, the one addressed to Obama lovers...linked to HuffPo. Mine links to politicususa.com. Yes, it is a liberal rag, so I am sure you can come up with an instant replay, a casual sniff, and trot back to work. If you decide o do so, you still would have failed to address the FACT that Boehner did say that (even got himself caught on tape) and the historical ledger of the 112th Congress (and video clips of the GOP players therein) which totally supports the veracity of the observations contained within my citation.
Cant say that I blame you. If it were my party who made spectacles of themselves by obsessing over social engineering issues to the detriment of the economy and jobs after running on campaign promises they broke within 24 hours of taking office, I would bolt and run as far away as I could get.
pleasant - icedT
[ In Reply To ..]Wow, why are you so angry? The snide remarks are just dripping with sarcasm. Put the claws back in and lighten up. Take a joke as it was presented. Just roll with it. Relax....it's Friday. Maybe have a glass of wine. ?
I will be thrilled to have a discussion and debate, but you have to stop making assumptions about me. Here's just a few tidbits: I'm not a Republican, rarely watch Fox, and I'm not a blind follower/disciple of Boehner or ANYONE, for that matter. I would (and have) throw a conservative under the bus as fast as I would a liberal if they were acting like idiots.
Wow, talk about snipes...did you read your own post - see message
[ In Reply To ..]You have just made a bunch of assumptions on someone you don't know. If you've been reading icedT's posts here you would realize all your assumptions are wrong. As for the original post I would need to read what both sides have to say. All I do know is unemployment is on the rise and of course the liberals will say jobs are on the rise...after all Obama is planning to run again, so of course they will say anything to make it look better than what it really is.
Heres how it works. - sm
[ In Reply To ..]When one extends respectful dialog, respectful dialog is returned in kind. Sometimes snipes beget snipes; other times, they simply get ingnored. This was not one of those times.
1000 state and federal anti-choice bills but not one - jobs initiative.
[ In Reply To ..]Mighty impressive stuff.
The jobs that need eliminating are THEIRS, - not ours! - MT Wordz - nm
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jobs report - icedT
[ In Reply To ..]Which one is this - the "hope" or the "change?" Or maybe it's "Winning the Future?"
At least the anagram of Winning the Future is right... - Zville MT
[ In Reply To ..]WTF!!!
I don't understand Obama lovers - Dallas
[ In Reply To ..]I think the ones that love Obama are on welfare so they're not concerned with what's going on. Wonder how many came out of the woodwork to vote for him thinking he'd pay all their home and car payments. lol
Well, then you probably don't understand - how a pencil works, either.
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ROFLMAO. . - Love a good belly laugh. nm
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gone a bit - icedT
[ In Reply To ..]Since I've been gone a bit and haven't been reading the posts recently, can someone tell me - have you just been ignoring this one who insults our intelligence and wastes time?
Back when I was an admin for a China adoption forum, I copied and saved a post I read that was dated 2006 from an admin forum because it was so well written. Here it is:
"I actually find that there are two classes of people who cause maximum trouble on forums. One is of course, the traditional "troll" who wreaks havoc by anti-social behaviour and by deliberately riling up forum members to get kicks out of it, causing havoc and bad blood in the process.
I think as admins, we need to realize that there is another group which I would term as "online bullies" or "internet bullies" who can become equally destructive in undermining communities.
These gentlemen/ladies differ from trolls in the sense that they are not anti-social, but they are an accepted and sometimes well-respected members who assume a sort of informal and unofficial leadership role. They use this position to intimidate and assert their views on newer and less established members and often push their weight around to mark territorial rights. They will generally try and behave properly, but subtly try and behave like moderators and preach about forum behaviour. They will also turn and insult people as they wish and surprisingly other forum members will turn a blind eye to them. They will usually "adopt" ownership of a single forum or a subforum of a board and hang out there frequently with their clan. (this feature is usually more common in larger forums)
These people are often the starting point of cliques because they can gather a group of yes-people around them in no time.
Beware of these people and watch out for them because they can be a lot more trouble in the long run than isolated trolls running loose.
Sometimes you just need an excellent troll to combat an established forum bully (I love this line! -IcedT)
Similarities between trolls and bullies:
Both trolls and bullies can cause enormous damage to a forum by their behaviour.
Both trolls and bullies usually have excellent communication skills using which they attack their opponents unmercifully.
Both trolls and bullies can be intimidating to any normal forum user.
Both trolls and bullies have the effect of creating bad blood.
Both trolls and bullies are hard to control without intervention right from the top - the forum administrator(s) or owner(s) because even moderators might find it hard to control them without support from others.
Differences
Trolls are usually isolated. They are generally short-lived in a forum. A person who signs up on a forum specifically to troll doesn't hang around in other parts of the forum and leaves as soon as the damage is done.
Bullies are more or less regular forum members who might have a huge post count and a following.
Trolls usually hit and run. A successful troll needs only a couple of posts in a single thread to turn it into a raging tornado.
Bullies stay on and intimidate other members by throwing their weight around and using their group of yes-people to lend force to their powerful attacks.
Trolls are usually identified for what they are.
Bullies rarely get identified for what they are, because they are regular members and nobody can suggest that they are ordinary trolls because they have a huge post count.
Trolls hardly respond to challenges. Instead they enjoy watching others fight.
Bullies enjoy fighting and run around bashing everybody who dares oppose them.
The potential damage done by trolls is limited to a particular topic of discussion or at most a forum.
The potential damage done by bullies is forum-wide and not related to topics, but to the personality of the bully and the kind of respect and influence he wields."
I wonder if he/she will ever use the same moniker twice and actually establish a dialoge with us? Or will he/she just continue the drive-by medium of posting? Hopefully, he/she will get bored soon and go away. I do miss the good debates we were having a few months ago.
I dont understand them either. ..and they never have - good reasons to love him, just name calling.nm
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