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Posted: May 3, 2017

These guys truly are amazing! They really think they are doing good. Hope you don't have a preexhisting condition or you might have to move to be able to afford insurance.

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Coverage is already unaffordable - Vin

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That's what happens when you turn comprehensive healfcare insurance (not the same as care) into a right.

So if you have a preexhisting condition, you shouldn't - be able to have insurance?

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It depends on which state you live in on being able to afford it now. Talk to your republican governor who turned down the Medicaid expansion. But this is saying if you have preexisting condition you should pay through the nose.

I know some of you don't believe healthcare should be a given thing in this country but most people do. So does the rest of the civilized world that have national healthcare.

Back in the day before Obamacare - you were charged for health insurance

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depending on your age, your habits (smoking?), your weight, etc and if you had an existing health condition.

I worked at a hospital that was run by the county/state and they could not turn away anyone, so if you had no insurance you would still be treated. I believe they got state funding to absorb the loss.

I hate that this has become a political thing and each side points the finger at the other side while health insurance costs sky rocket for young healthy people who need to absorb the cost of existing health condition costs of insurance. There has to be a better way than this political in-fighting.

So why would you want to go back to a time - when so many had no insurance?

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This country is going backward on so many things all in the name of the wealthy. Very sad that we are doing this and accepting it.

Selfish. That's why. - nm

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Not OP but I would like to go back to - less government telling me what to do.

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I was never ordered to carry insurance. That was my choice. If I could afford it or got it from work which was a perk back in the day I carried it. I was never penalized by a government agency for not having insurance.

The fewer people that have insurance, the - more it costs everyone else.

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You make a very significant point - sm

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that many on this board overlook, and that is personal habits. Back in the day when people were looked at as individuals an underwriter would look at items such as those listed by the poster above and recommend (or not) issuing a policy for that individual. So if you live a healthy lifestyle, you were likely to get a policy fairly inexpensively. If you smoke, are overweight, drink too much, etc., if you could get a policy, it would cost more, because you were engaging in behavior (by your own choice) that would end up with very costly consequences. I don't engage in those behaviors and don't want to pay more because someone else has made the choice to do so. That said, I do realize there are people who have been dealt a bad hand and through no fault of their own have issues. I don't think they should be denied coverage or pay through the nose for coverage. It would seem to me that those individuals could be put in a risk pool and spread out across insurance companies or offered Medicare so they could get the coverage they need at a reasonable cost.

Medicaid expansion was a bribe to get states to go for Obamacare. - The fed govt offered money for a brief period of

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time but then the states had to raise the money themselves. Many governors knew this. Once you get people on Obamacare/Medicaid, how do you change that if the law is redacted? This was purely political theater and Obama knew it.

We have passed the point of no return.

At least it helped people get insurance, unlike - this pub plan.

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I know even doctors and healthcare facilities don't like it. They balked at the ACA but saw how it benefited people and yes, themselves. It brought more people in which created more jobs. When the pub plan hits and people loose insurance, don't go to facilities and doctors and jobs go away.

So much for job creation and a bigger and better plan by the pubs. Of course,this doesn't surprise me because it is what they do.

Many doctors REFUSE to take Medicaid insurance - It does not benefit providers.

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Doctors have expenses. They need to meet those expenses. Payments from Medicaid are below minimal. Medicaid did not create jobs. Not every hospital will accept Medicaid and you need to shop hospitals to see if they will accept it. State run hospitals do but then you need a doctor who will oversee your care that is affiliated with that state run hospital and will also accept Medicaid payment.

The above post is just another excuse to rant against Republicans. The rant is filled with holes.

Democrats promise a "free lunch" to attract voters who are not educated so they can get votes but there is no such thing as a free lunch.

This was not just a rant - as you say

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I guess maybe where you live that is the case, I don't know. We don't have to "shop" for a hospital where I live and I don't know any place where you do. Maybe you should move to another state if that's how they do it where you live. After all, the pubs don't mind having people move to other states.

As far as the free lunches. I don't want to see any kid go hungry and free lunches at schools for those who qualify have been around for a long time, through both parties in office.

"Free lunches" are what keeps adult Democratic - voters in place.

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They do not understand there is no such thing as a "free lunch" but Democrats prey on the uneducated counting on their votes by making promises to spend other people's money to make sure the pitiful poor Democrats do not have to work for a living and will receive entitlements so they can continue living in poverty.

So that is part of the Democratic Medicaid plan as well as Obamacare/ACA.

Free health insurance! I'll vote for a Democrat. Food stamps! I'll vote for a Democrat. Rent subsidies! I'll vote for a Democrat. Anything to keep me from working for a living.

No, we do understand that our taxes are paying - for them

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and don't mind feeding a hungry kid, unlike you Christian republican folks who would rather they starve instead of putting some tax money toward feeding them.

That is a typical Liberal broad-brush hateful - statement.

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The ignorance and lack of logic of liberal posters is beyond understanding. Not all Republicans are Christian and not anyone that I know in my Republican mixed faith group would want to see a child starve.

How incredibly scary a liberal's mind works. There are millions of Republicans and liberals think they all are Christian and all want to see children starve.

Sometimes it is better to let people wonder if people on the left are ignorant rather than post and prove it.

I'm talking to the ones on here who post - ignorantly. nm

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Who are you talking to that are Republican/Christian - and want to see children starve?

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I have never seen anyone post they are Christian Republicans and they would like to see children starve.

The same one that called all democrats - uneducated and said

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we don't understand free doesn't mean free. They want to label me then I'll be glad to label them.

Labeling people in a group of millions is - ignorant, no matter who does it.

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So you decided you would be as ignorant as the people you think are ignorant? How smart is that?

I read the free isn't free post and understood that free lunches are not actually free. Someone is paying for them. I have known that there is no free lunch years ago from my parents. Sooner or later someone will pay for freebies, lunches or whatever.

Sometimes you just got to respond to ignorance - with ignorance

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I'm tired of being called a liberal loser and whatever the name of the day is. Maybe the Trump supporters could stop because it gets real tiresome. I always try to respond without name calling but sometimes they push it and I get tired of it. If you aren't one of them, then I do apologize to you.

A free lunch is not free. Someone is paying for it. - No one is donating their food or staff to serve it

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It is mandatory for taxpayers to fund those so-called free lunches.

No, it's what happens when HMOs take over - healthcare for financial gain.

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People with pre-existing conditions cost - insurance companies more

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Who do you think should be paying for insurance for pre-existing conditions? Not meant to be argumentative but who is to absorb the cost of that insurance for people who are more likely to need more healthcare?

National healthcare is the real answer - nm

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With that reasoning, - the person who had

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the dumb luck of being born with a heart defect or type 1 diabetes should just suck it up and pay 10 times more than anyone else so that others don't have to pay a little more to help cover them? Maybe we could have a way to just put them out of our misery when they get diagnosed?

I had the dumb luck to lose my job. I lost my home - Should people or the government step in?

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I mean lots of people need help because of dumb luck and they are miserable. When does this become a government issue. What about impoverished people who live in dangerous neighborhoods. Should other people or the government step in to help them out of their miserable living conditions?

How far do you want the government to go?

Health care is different, that baby born with - Tetralogy of Fallot will be uninsurable

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It will be a virtual death sentence for infants with congenital conditions unless their daddy is Jimmy Kimmel. That was his point.

My pay got cut in half, I went bankrupt. I go to food banks now. But I am alive.

Why should a little innocent baby be billed hundreds of thousands of dollars OR ELSE because the Republicans want to take out the money that's in health care and give themselves a tax break?

Health care SHOULD be a govt issue. And they need to do it better, even better than Obamacare, but at least Obamacare is not heartless. This one is.

Heartless and terrible and sucking the money out to give to Paul Ryan and his ilk. What did they do to deserve it?

You mean the hospital will do nothing in - emergency situation for a baby without insurance?

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Why should innocent babies live in dangerous neighborhoods in poverty? Why doesn't the government do something about that?

I am sorry but this should not be a political issue and it never was until Obamacare. I do not like the government telling me what I need to do to as far as health insurance. And I am bored with people blaming the Republicans and Democrats when this should not be political.

If the Repubs were going to take that money out - and do something good with it

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Like make sure they don't threaten Social Security or Medicare, well, maybe.

But no, they are going to take that money out and put it right back in Donald Trump et al's pockets, and yeah, they will then trickle it down to us. No way Jose.

Anyway, a baby born with a congenital defect is not necessarily a baby who will live in a dangerous neighborhood. Just because the baby might be middle class, their parents won't be able to afford ridiculous insurance either, and every single parent, rich or poor, would want their baby covered.

Health care is the great equalizer. It should be something (as it is in EVERY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY!!!) we don't have to worry about either being denied or breaking us financially.

It should most certainly NOT be traded for tax cuts.

People with pre-existing conditions (sm) - Mother of one

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will have to pay more for insurance. So what? Most parents would be happy to have insurance at all for their children with pre-existing conditions. I know I would.

Are you one of the ones complaining that you - can't afford insurance

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with the ACA? What makes you think people like that could afford to pay more for their children with preexisting condition? I think we just need to wait and see how all of you feel if this thing actually goes through and you start losing your insurance or pay through the roof. I'm hoping the senate is smarter than the house and dumps it.

Preexisting conditions - Ex MT

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I could never understand how insurance companies could get away with not covering people because they were already sick. So inhumane. Obviously something they designed at some point in time to save money. I always thought health insurance was supposed to help sick and healthy people get the treatment they needh. Seems very cold to turn our backs on people who get a chronic illness through no fault of their own. It does increase the cost of insurance, but the alternative of only covering healthy people is a very sad solution akin to something from the dark ages. I don't think we want to go back there. Maybe we should look at the outrageous cost of drugs and try to get that under control.

That's why our premiums have gone up, to absorb the - cost. Someone is paying. There is

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no such thing as a free lunch.

And let's not forget that only half of the people in this country pay - taxes. If everyone wants "free"

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health care, then everyone should pay taxes. What “health care” for all really means is that it will be that much more of a burden on the half that pays the bills.

We have 80 million on Medicaid. Three-quarters of those receiving coverage under Obamacare did so thru Medicaid.

As MTs we all know why you might be on Medicaid - even while working full time!

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Sure, make everyone pay taxes, but then the minimum wage would have to go up, employers would have to actually pay a living wage, and if employers pay their employees such low wages that they are entitled to Medicaid and/or food stamps, those employers should be fined or forced to pay their employees more, especially since they make billions in profit (I'm looking at you, Wal-Mart).

There is a dangerous disconnect between wages and actual worth of labor right now. Corporations are at the beck and call of their shareholders, and shareholders care for nothing but profit. Deregulation of labor has left corporations with all the power in this equation.

Labor has become worth as much as the suckers will accept (and we know how that feels), and is a cost which is cut to the bone no matter what your skill is. Every single occupation (except, apparently, CEOs) seems to have been cut simply to please shareholders.

This is taking the discussion on another tack, but so many claims that Fox News for example makes about poor people are self serving and patently untrue.

I have lived in another country where everyone paid taxes. The minimum wage was very high there, also free health care, also an extremely high cost of living, so there are many variables to be figured in when you talk about paying taxes. The country I lived in also had a consumption tax, and I can tell you this is a horrible regressive tax that I hope we never turn to in this country. An easy way for the govt to get money, but it really hurts those on the lower end.

This article in the link (about shareholder demands) is very interesting. I personally think everything started going downhill once companies started having shareholders and we as workers became another line item.

Every time I see my 401K goes up (not that I can contribute much to it) I think, who got fired so that could happen? One day it will no doubt be me, so how ironic is that.

Yes, seems like, I'm spending a lot of my good earned money, to pay for - someone else, sm

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and I don't even carry insurance on myself. I pay the fee since it has been implemented for ObamaCare. I cannot afford to pay $300 and something a month for insurance. When I did carry insurance from a private company, it was less than ObamaCare wanted me to pay. I struggle as it is to pay my quarterly taxes (as these companies are now curtailing their costs by hiring everyone as an independent contractor). The self-employment taxes are ridiculous. If I did get rich, I realize, I would just be paying for others who have no money. Seems everyone is out for a free ride and feel they are entitled.

Welcome to the wonderful world of redistribution. - nm

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redistribution to who? Insurance companies, - the wealthy?

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That is who this plan will benefit. I'd rather help those who need the help.

Anyone who wants to help the needy - should give to charity.

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It should not be made mandatory by government that we absorb the cost of insurance for people who have existing conditions. Charity begins at home. I have plenty of family members who could use my financial support.

Do you know most of the help by charities - are given by those who

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are not wealthy. They may give little but they do it from their hearts. The wealthy do it for a tax break. I guess in the scheme of things the help is welcome from anybody. But I don't complain about paying a bit more in taxes or insurance to help someone else. I guess that's the difference between me and you. I feel our government should help those that need it. I would much rather have my tax dollars pay to help them than pay for the presidents golf outings and family vacations. Another difference between you and me. I'm willing to bet you are one of the ones who has no problem with that.

Most of us aren't out for a free ride but feel - we should not have to

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pay to let the big-wigs get richer. I also feel that free market insurance is not better than national healthcare would be.

I don't know anything about you but I hope you don't have a preexisting condition or are in the 50-60 year age bracket because you really won't like this plan.

I still haven't heard anything about how this - is going to affect those of us - sm

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who are over 65 and on Medicare Part B. Are our premiums going to take those huge jumps, too? And what about pre-existing conditions? Will we be refused Part B coverage?

Nobody hates women more than other women - Anonymous

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What the flying hell is wrong with these people!!! Christian version of Sharia law...Women wake up and look what is happening to YOUR healthcare.....They have strategically focused you on abortion so you wouldn't notice the literal raping of your healthcare .....This shameful.... We are stepping back 50 years....

I have found most pubs are one-issue - voters.

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They don't look at the rest of what is going on. Pubs focus on something like abortion and are blinded while the pubs sneak stuff that hurts people through.

If you don't like abortion, don't have one. But you really don't have a choice when they take away your health benefits.

It sure seems to be true 'round here, doesn't it? - LM

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insurance companies more - dun4

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certainly not the 1%, they exempted themselves.

This is just a way for the oh so dumb - republicans in Washington

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can put all of the blame on individual states and not themselves. They can say we had a choice. Reminds me of the Chaffetz moron saying that people will just have to not get the new iphone and pay their own insurance. I don't even have a cell phone let alone an iphone. These people are so far removed from the real American public that it would be funny if it weren't just plain sad!

I really watch my health, eating vegetarian, - watching my weight, etc.

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I am a paycheck to paycheck person. I barely can afford my own insurance and the cost keeps going up I suppose to help pay for someone who has a condition that requires more care because my health is stable.

Do you think that I should have to help pay for someone's insurance, not by choice but by insurance companies raising rates because they need to insure people with already existing health issues?

But babies will die. - nm

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They already are, 1.7 million every year through abortions - at Planned Parenthood.

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Sad.

do you think live born babies should have a shot at life? - or

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are you another one who thinks you should dictate a woman's right to choose, but then feel you can abandon babies the moment they are born?

I'm not abandoning unborn babies or other babies - Fake bleeding hearts care about specific babies

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I care about the unborn being given a chance to live as well as those who are born.

Democrats pick and choose which babies they care about.

As far as abortion, give the baby up for adoption rather than KILLING it. Don't Democrats care about murdered babies by abortionists?

Where they will be put in a foster home - supported by tax dollars?

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There are a lot of children who are in the foster care system who are not adopted and we are paying to support them. You folks are the ones crying about your tax dollars and not wanting to use them to help people so you want them born but you don't want them taken care of. Talk about hypocrisy.

Foster care is not DEATH. Big difference. - Hypocrisy is crying about babies without insurance

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with no regard for the dead babies that are aborted.

I hope you are not one of the ones complaining - of taxpayers taking care of

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the poor because that is what happens to many of these babies. Why do you assume I don't have regard for aborted babies. I actually would never have an abortion. I was told I should have an amniocentesis because there was something in my blood that showed something could be wrong and I should do it now so there would still be time for an abortion. I didn't have the test because I wasn't going to have an abortion. But everybody has different circumstances. I am totally against late term abortion as I think most are but depending on the circumstances an early term abortion might be the best choice for the mother.

Vote today makes it obvious Republicans don't care about babies - nm

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OMG how does a vote today prove - Republicans do not care about babies

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Do you actually believe this?

Do you believe in abortion? Do you care about babies?

Liberals are beyond ridiculous at this point.

Repubs only defend unborn clumps of cells. - As soon as they're born, they -

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don't give a rip about them.

The fact that Repubs always go back to their - tried old stance on abortion - sm

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whenever they're losing an argument is what's sad. It isn't even rational, but it's all they've got.

What is sad is that Planned Parenthood is - Being restricted

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From offering sex ed, contraception, HIV prevention and HPV info, prevention and vaccine. All I can see is you are happy with unwanted children, starving children, children having children, sickness and cancer-related HPV.

Republicans apparently enjoy watching other - people suffer, as long as its not THEM.

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Same boat here. Looks like the swamp people are winning - unfortunately.

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The truth is health care is really an entitlement now but - nobody wants to admit it. You can

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trace big govt all the way to the 60s with Medicaid and Medicare, including getting rid of the family structure when the left infiltrated academia to get out of going to Vietnam, as well as community organizing.

The ship has already sunk. Prepare.

So are you saying if someone smokes/drinks and - is fat they should not get coverage?

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It makes sense, but alas the insurance companies do NOT go by this. They insure everybody, so how many years have we been paying for smokers, obese people, alcoholics? I think it's maybe not a coincidence that so many rich executives have these "bad" habits that make them unhealthy, so of course they couldn't refuse them, could they? Or charge them more?

This idea that it's your own fault if you get sick so pay for it is spurious. What about that baby born with Tetralogy of Fallot? Would we screen infants before they are born and maybe not let them get born if they have such a thing or other congenital disease (because we all have to pay for that too)? Thank goodness that doesn't happen, but really where do you draw the line?

I am also a paycheck to paycheck person. I am fat, I drink on the weekends (self medicating is what I call it), and I never EVER go to the doctor. I have minimal life insurance just in case. I often attempt to lose weight and have periods of alcohol abstinence several times a year, so it's not like I have given up. I also keep up with the basics (which are free, like physicals and mammograms, though heaven help me if there is ever anything wrong).

Yet still, no matter what my faults (and body habitus), I cost less than many many healthy hypochondriacs, or of course people with actual diseases. I take no medications at all and have no health conditions.

There are so very many health problems that people have absolutely no control over that they are either born with or inherit. I have diabetes in my family and I have been lucky enough not to be struck down with it, but my nephew who got type 1 at the age of 10, is that his fault? I think not.

Another thing I don't get, yes, we cover others by paying more, that is how insurance works. Car insurance, house insurance, etc. Premiums are pooled to cover risk. If you are not a risk and don't like that, how do you think insurance should work then?

Except health care is different still, because it is vital for everyone.

Ever make a claim on your house insurance? Good luck trying to get a decent policy next year or even insured. They are allowed to refuse or double your premiums to punish you for claiming.

I actually object that insurance companies should be allowed to do that with any type of insurance, but in this country the lobby groups have worked wonders for the insurance industry.

Still, do you think health insurance should work like that? Imagine you had a heart attack or cancer? Should you be punished for a disease that has already turned your world upside down and for a good portion of time made you even incapable of working?

I intend to retire or semi-retire at 62. Why? Not because I am not perfectly able to work until I am way older, not that I even want to retire, but because if I have to get a gallbladder operation or if I enter the hospital and get sick for even ONE WEEK, we then have not enough income to pay my mortgage.

Rather than leave my family without enough income to pay the basic bills, I would rather go part time and get SS, just in case. Ridiculous, yes, since I would be happy to work until 70 or even later, but I have to hedge my bets because there are virtually no safety nets for lower-middle class people like us in this society.

Terrible leave policies, no coverage for emergency situations, low or no maternity leave. These are all policies which, while they encourage work, actually discourage well-being in that you are constantly worried what time off work due to medical conditions will do to the security of your income and family.

So you can't just point out vague instances where fatties and smokers raise the rates, there are so many other diseases and treatments that are necessary and cost huge amounts, and so many of which are not attributable to lifestyle or bad habits at all, just by genetics and the cruelty of fate.

Plus the premiums went up way more before Obamacare, and what was the excuse then? You think this plan that the R's have hatched will make your premiums lower? Think again. The health insurance industry have the best lobbyists in Washington, and their CEOs make billions in bonuses, so will that stop under Trump? I think not.

What you are paying for when premiums go up is NOT someone you believe less deserving than you. You are paying for the CEOs getting billion dollar bonuses. They need to get the insurance companies completely out of health care OR just there to be the middleman. Insurance companies should actually be financially rewarded for making access easier and making coverage more affordable, NOT for finding ways not to insure people or charge them through the roof.

No but their premiums should cost more because they are - putting themselves at risk.

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my good health - Effie

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So are you sure that as long as you do everything "right" you will never get sick? I think Heaven is full of people who did everything "right" and still got sick and died...

Yes people do get sick unexpectedly but - some lifestyles invite bad health

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My father smoked. He was otherwise healthy until he got lung cancer.

There are few people alive without SOME kind - of pre-existing condition.

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Get your tonsils out as a kid? Sometimes they grow back, ya know. Pre-existing condition.

Also, back in the 50's and 60's, tonsillectomy patients were also treated with radiation therapy afterwards to prevent the tonsils from regrowing. Now, many of those patients (my sister included) have gone on to develop THYROID CANCER. Pre-existing condition.

Have trouble getting pregnant? Pre-existing condition.

Baby born with a defect? Too bad, so sad. Open your wallet or let the kid die. Pre-existing condition.

Break a bone in or near a joint as a teen, and now you have osteoarthritis in that spot? Pre-existing condition.

I think you catch my drift. No one gets through this life unscathed, and the way our government twists the rules when they play the game, they could basically take everyone in the country off of health insurance - except for their special little untouchable 1% selves.

Preexisting conditions and healthcare - my take

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My husband had insurance through his employer some 30 years ago and then they decided to drop it because it was too expensive to them. We then picked up a catastrophic insurance policy - $10,000 deductible - knowing that we wouldn't have the $10,000 if we ever needed it, but it was all we could afford. In the meantime, our son needed tubes in his ears every year for 5 years - it took us the entire year to pay for the surgery each time - about $2000.00. Finally someone told me about the program that the state had for children under 18 with preexisting conditions - we were able to get just him on the program - we paid $18.00 a month, but it made a big difference to us back then. Most states have something like this even now. It is a state run risk pool for children. Nobody talks about it though because it doesn't fit the narrative that children (and adults) are going without health care. I also worked in a small hospital in the medical records department, but had to pinch hit in billing a couple days a month. I know that people came in and got healthcare and never paid for it. Hospitals do that. Some could afford it much better than we could, but somehow they got care too, just like everybody else. The hospital absorbed the cost. Now everyone wants univeersal health care -
medicaid/medicare for everyone - just go in whenever you want and the government pays for it - do you realize that the government does not pay your entire bill? Not sure on the numbers, but it was about 85% that got paid 30 years ago - doubt it pays more now - those hospitals and clinics have to absorb the cost and write off the other 15%. How do the hospitals and clinics stay open? They charge more so that they come out even - so those of us who have insurance and pay our own way - not obamacare medicaid patients - we pay more so that the medicaid patients don't have to - and I don't include medicare in that because I have paid for my medicare - every time I got a paycheck over the last decades - I was paying forward for the days when I would be using medicare - those on medicaid have not paid into the system, but they are getting it free - that is government-run healthcare....

And some in Washington want to change - your Medicare right now!

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I hate the term entitlements - if we pay for it, it is owed to us in my opinion. As far as the health insurance debate, my question is when does this become a human issue? All we hear about is Planned Parenthood and all of the babies that are murdered every year by these villainous women. What about the people who are sick? We can't have our cake and eat it too by saying that the government cannot condone and fund clinics that perform abortions and it should be against the law and then say it is not the government's place to get involved with health insurance. It is a human issue plain and simple. No person should have to decide between getting their lifesaving medication that is exorbitantly priced or paying their rent and groceries - this goes for the elderly people and the young who are sick. This is something that we all should care about because one day it could be us, no matter what we tell ourselves.

My opinion is that the insurance companies are the biggest problem. Over the couple of years Obamacare has been in force, a couple of the companies have dropped in and out of the plan a couple of times. Why? I think once they got out they saw a decrease in their enrollment which means less $$$$ for the big wigs. They are the ones our anger needs to be centered on, not Obama and certainly not the people who need more care because they are sick. Now, with this new plan of the republicans to kill anything Obama, these companies are going to be able to rape anyone who dares to get sick! This is not right and we should be concerned as human beings, not republicans or democrats!

Ahh, the good ole days - Sm

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Now, there is a poverty line qualification for those children's programs and hospitals refuse care and dump patients who cost too much...not to mention everything that is now outpatient that private doctors just refuse those patients.

Don't worry. These are transcriptionists with bad jobs. - They have pre-existings. oh yeah they do. sm

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Half of them are divorced and not covered by a spouse's insurance. They have sedentary jobs. They are probably overweight. They have a terrible job without insurance because they have to be IC or they can't get the hours to achieve the magic 40 for insurance. They will die without good insurance. And it was right there in front of them for the taking. All they ever had to be was not hateful right wing conservatives that behave like they are rooting for a team and so dumb, they don't realize THEY are the team about to lose.

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