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Democrat Robert Menendez (NJ) facing criminal


Posted: Mar 6, 2015

Another one bites the dust!

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But what do you think about E. Holder, DOJ - kudos to Holder

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A Democrat bringing charges against a Democrat. You would never see a Republican bringing charges against a Republican.

I think all corrupt politicians should be out. I always wait until guilt is actually proven, though. Maybe he and Chris Christy could be cell mates.

They'll have to make room for Chillary, too. - As far as Holder...

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Everyone knows his number now. He's being careful. He knows he doesn't stand a snowball's chance...

Christie - Truthhurts

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...was found not guilty of anything dealing with that bridge fiasco.

So let's drop that, especially since you stated "I always wait until guilt is actually proven."

Evidently, you don't believe your own statement if you're still beating up on Christie for the bridge crap.

^ That sure sounded like bullying to me. - s/msg

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"So let's drop that crap right now, especially since you stated 'I always wait until guilt is actually proven'."

Since when is it "crap" to want to wait until someone is actually proven guilty before saying they are? That doesn't sound like the way the American justice system is supposed to work.
Because he was found NOT GUILTY a couple months ago - Truthhurts
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so the statement that was made isn't correct. The poster I always wait until guilt is actually proven'."

Guess the poster will wait forever, then since the investigation of Bridgegate/Christie is closed with the NOT GUILTY verdict.
^No bullying anywhere in post - just trying to start something
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Since you seem to be calling my post "crap" - sm

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I said "maybe" he and Christy can share a cell. The ability to read closely as MT is a very important skill, much like there is a difference between "normal" and "abnormal" and "mostly" and "all."

A little more courtesy to other posters would certainly be appreciated.

Oh, and I don't think any scandal is yet over in regard to Christy. Want to talk Exxon?
I didn't call you post crap, just your one statement - Truthhurts
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it certainly wasn't truthful. He was found not guilty in Bridgegate yet you keep falling back to that.

But, if you mean Exxon...sure. Why wasn't it settled way back when???? It dragged on for 10 years and 4 governors. I really hate long, involved posts, and  don't want to post the full article because it's large, but, these paragraphs jump out of the one article:

 ..."The lawsuits, filed by the State Department of Environmental Protection in 2004, had been litigated by the administrations of four New Jersey governors, finally advancing last year to trial. By then, Exxon’s liability was no longer in dispute; the only issue was how much it would pay in damages."

...“The scope of the environmental damage resulting from the discharges is as obvious as it is staggering and unprecedented in New Jersey,” the administration of Gov. Chris Christie said in a court brief filed in November....

But a month ago, with a State Superior Court judge believed to be close to a decision on damages, the Christie administration twice petitioned the court to hold off on a ruling because settlement talks were underway. Then, last Friday, the state told the judge that the case had been resolved.

If the settlement is completed, it is possible that some or even none of the money would go toward environmental costs in the Exxon case: An appropriations law in New Jersey allows money beyond the first $50 million collected in such cases in the current fiscal year to go toward balancing the state budget, a state fiscal analyst said.

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NOW, according to the lawsuit, there is this and it's pretty hard to break down the whole lawsuit into pertinent parts so I do provide the actual lawsuit here for you to read but please pay attention to the last few paragraphs:

With particular reference to Exxon Mobil, DEP's review and investigation identified “some preliminary restoration work on natural resources” that was recommended for the Bayway and Bayonne sites.   

Sacco posited that, as compensation for the destruction of natural resources on its portions of the Bayonne site, Exxon Mobil could implement restoration projects similar to those being undertaken by IMTT.

No agreement was struck.   Consequently, in August 2004, DEP filed two complaints against Exxon Mobil, asserting Spill Act and common law claims of public nuisance and trespass, for natural resource damages for the discharge of hazardous substances at the Bayway site in Linden, and the Bayonne site.

Without any legislative or appellate directive, the court will not expand the definition of cleanup and removal costs under the Spill Act to include damages for the loss of use of natural resources.   Moreover, the court finds no other language in the Spill Act that would hold a discharger strictly liable for the loss of use of natural resources.   Therefore, Exxon Mobil's cross-motion for summary judgment, on this issue, is granted. 

Likewise, DEP's Policy Directive explicitly states a preference “for the performance of restoration work and resource protection in lieu of payment of money damages,” and in so doing, has adopted a “forward-looking” approach seeking natural resource improvements to make up for historical lost use, instead of a “backward-looking” settlement of a dollar judgment owing.   In fact, the Policy Directive specifically suggests that responsible parties, such as defendant, might alleviate the effects on the public of the loss of use of natural resources by providing “substitute resources or resource services” which could be “both in-kind and out-of-kind.” Since, according to the Policy Directive, those substitutes “must bear a nexus to the injured resource and should be in the same watershed,” it is not unreasonable to conclude that if DEP ultimately proves injury to the public's use of natural resources in the area, the types of “remedies” DEP identified in its Policy Directive could indeed lessen the severity or intensity of those public injuries by replenishing the natural resources of the area, even if the actual natural resources lost cannot be restored or replaced. 

- See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nj-superior-court-appellate-division/1159089.html#sthash.vu5klQMU.dpuf


it certainly wasn't truthful. He was found not guilty in Bridgegate yet you did not refer to any other "scandal" so it was fair that I assumed you to mean Bridgegate.

But, if you mean Exxon...sure. Why wasn't it settled way back when???? It dragged on for 10 years and 4 governors.  BTW, check the suit against Dupont back in 2005 when they agreed to settle with the state for 2,400 acres of contamination at 8 sites. Ten years later, the contamination continues at 70 acres DuPont agreed to hand over to "atone for the contamination." Was Christie governor in 2005? 

http://www.northjersey.com/news/n-j-pollution-settlement-from-exxon-is-225-million-less-than-first-reported-1.1283417



I really hate long, involved posts, and don't want to post the full article because it's large, but, these paragraphs jump out of the one article (not the above link):

 ..."The lawsuits, filed by the State Department of Environmental Protection in 2004, had been litigated by the administrations of four New Jersey governors, finally advancing last year to trial. By then, Exxon’s liability was no longer in dispute; the only issue was how much it would pay in damages."
...“The scope of the environmental damage resulting from the discharges is as obvious as it is staggering and unprecedented in New Jersey,” the administration of Gov. Chris Christie said in a court brief filed in November....
... But a month ago, with a State Superior Court judge believed to be close to a decision on damages, the Christie administration twice petitioned the court to hold off on a ruling because settlement talks were underway. Then, last Friday, the state told the judge that the case had been resolved....


...If the settlement is completed, it is possible that some or even none of the money would go toward environmental costs in the Exxon case: An appropriations law in New Jersey allows money beyond the first $50 million collected in such cases in the current fiscal year to go toward balancing the state budget, a state fiscal analyst said.

NOW, according to the lawsuit, "With particular reference to Exxon Mobil, DEP's review and investigation identified “some preliminary restoration work on natural resources” that was recommended for the Bayway and Bayonne sites. Sacco posited that, as compensation for the destruction of natural resources on its portions of the Bayonne site, Exxon Mobil could implement restoration projects similar to those being undertaken by IMTT."

"No agreement was struck.   Consequently, in August 2004, DEP filed two complaints against Exxon Mobil, asserting Spill Act and common law claims of public nuisance and trespass, for natural resource damages for the discharge of hazardous substances at the Bayway site in Linden, and the Bayonne site."


"Without any legislative or appellate directive, the court will not expand the definition of cleanup and removal costs under the Spill Act to include damages for the loss of use of natural resources."  


"Moreover, the court finds no other language in the Spill Act that would hold a discharger strictly liable for the loss of use of natural resources.   Therefore, Exxon Mobil's cross-motion for summary judgment, on this issue, is granted."  [NOTE: LOOK UP THE SPILL ACT]

Likewise, DEP's Policy Directive explicitly states a preference “for the performance of restoration work and resource protection in lieu of payment of money damages,” and in so doing, has adopted a “forward-looking” approach seeking natural resource improvements to make up for historical lost use, instead of a “backward-looking” settlement of a dollar judgment owing. In fact, the Policy Directive specifically suggests that responsible parties, such as defendant, might alleviate the effects on the public of the loss of use of natural resources by providing “substitute resources or resource services” which could be “both in-kind and out-of-kind.” Since, according to the Policy Directive, those substitutes “must bear a nexus to the injured resource and should be in the same watershed,” it is not unreasonable to conclude that if DEP ultimately proves injury to the public's use of natural resources in the area, the types of “remedies” DEP identified in its Policy Directive could indeed lessen the severity or intensity of those public injuries by replenishing the natural resources of the area, even if the actual natural resources lost cannot be restored or replaced. 



- See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nj-superior-court-appellate-division/1159089.html#sthash.vu5klQMU.dpuf

I suggest you check the recent news - sm
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It seems Christie's counsel pushed a settlement with Exxon at THREE CENTS on the dollar. Even Detroit's bankruptcy case paid 26 cents on the dollar. It seems Christie is pushing settlements as quick fixes to make it look like his budget is in good shape for his presidential run. Walker is doing the same thing with the State University system in Wisconsin.
Exxon - where Obama ignored the crisis for days on end - then only read about it the paper?
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Usual crap.

...and maybe Hillary, too, unless they "greased" her enough - Truthhurts

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Ecuador Family Wins Favors After Donations to Democrats



MIAMI — The Obama administration overturned a ban preventing a wealthy, politically connected Ecuadorean woman from entering the United States after her family gave tens of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns, according to finance records and government officials.


The woman, Estefanía Isaías, had been barred from coming to the United States after being caught fraudulently obtaining visas for her maids. But the ban was lifted at the request of the State Department under former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton so that Ms. Isaías could work for an Obama fund-raiser with close ties to the administration.


It was one of several favorable decisions the Obama administration made in recent years involving the Isaías family, which the government of Ecuador accuses of buying protection from Washington and living comfortably in Miami off the profits of a looted bank in Ecuador.


The family, which has been investigated by federal law enforcement agencies on suspicion of money laundering and immigration fraud, has made hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions to American political campaigns in recent years. During that time, it has repeatedly received favorable treatment from the highest levels of the American government, including from New Jersey’s senior senator and the State Department.  
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On the Menendez charges, the following site has a lot of videos on the subject and even more info on the above story.
 


Criminal charges against U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat, could come later this month as a federal grand jury continues to hear evidence in the case, sources familiar with the investigation tell NBC 4 New York.


Menendez has been under federal criminal investigation in connection with his ties to Florida eye doctor Salomon Melgen. The senator has admitted he accepted free private plane trips from Melgen, including a 2008 trip to the luxury resort of Casa de Campo in the Dominican Republic. The senator has said he later repaid almost $70,000 for his trips on the doctor’s jet.
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Is there anything that goes on in the world that can't somehow be blamed on Hillary? - sm

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If Hillary actually has all the power and influence that the conspiracy theorists subscribe to her, she is the person I want running this country.

The evil Obama has smote the land with his evilness, and now Hillary swoops in, on her broom of course, takes out her magic wand, repeats an incantation and........... POOF! All the bad guys disappear!

Thanks, Hillary!

Six degrees of Kevin Bacon - sm

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or as Fox calls it behind the scenes,

smear, besmirch, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!
Since you brought up Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, there's this (sm) - LM
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Judicial Watch obtained emails from Killery regarding how her staff "ran interference" for her emails during Benghazi. Hmmm...wonder what she had to hide. No, not really. I think most of us KNOW what she was trying to hide.
See link
Nowhere for her to hide anymore! - SM
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I would think that even the rational Democrats would not want such a deceitful, dishonest individual as the next president. Surely, there's got to be another potential nominee.
Fauxahontas? Biden? Gore? - Can't decide which is funnier.
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It's the clown car! with a whole new set of passengers. - LOL
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for the record, I find this offensive - sm
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this "fauxahontas" thing is disrespectful to the original citizens of this country and women.
She was disrespectful to the native Americans trying - to pass herself off as one of them.
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I can decide: Spongebrain Squarespecks a.k.a. Caribou Barbie is by far the funniest of them all. - nm
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;)

Wait, I'm confused. I thought everything was blamed on Obama - Now everything is blamed on Hillary???

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I really wish people could make up their minds.

Better story and videos here (at least 3) - Truthhurts

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Wonder if Hillary will be able to get out of this one?

Another link to the same story is a video which headline reads and other videos are listed:

Menendez, Clinton State Dept. Helped Secure Visa for Fugitive Banker’s Daughter.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Senator-Robert-Menendez-clinton-state-department-Ecuadorian-Isaias-Brothers-Visa-Estefania-285980841.html

Wonder if Hillary will be able to slip out of this one (and so the "grease" word in my last post)? If they bring charges against Menendez, they better bring them against Hillary. 

I feel that they are bringing these charges against Menendez mostly because he bucks Obama. This guy is not a dyed-in-the-wool Obama backer. He votes and speaks his mind whether Obama and his ilk approves or not. I think that's part of the reason they're coming down hard on him.

Another link to the same story is a video which headline reads and other videos are listed:

Menendez, Clinton State Dept. Helped Secure Visa for Fugitive Banker’s Daughter.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Senator-Robert-Menendez-clinton-state-department-Ecuadorian-Isaias-Brothers-Visa-Estefania-285980841.html


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