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So any emotionally unstable criminal can buy a gun thanks to NRA and Republicans


Posted: Apr 18, 2013

Because it would not have prevented Newtown? ***Arizona shooter, Loughner squeezed off 31 bullets in less than 30 seconds, wielding a 9 mm Glock with high-capacity magazines. For several years prior, Loughner had displayed signs of serious mental illness, including outbursts during his high school classes and complaints about voices in his head. Nevertheless, he was able to stroll into a Sportsmen's Warehouse in Tucson and purchase a weapon and ammunition legally. ***Aurora theater shooter. Some of Holmes' acquaintances suspected prior to the shooting that Holmes suffered from mental illness and could be dangerous. A month prior to the shooting, Dr. Lynne Fenton reported to the campus police that he had made homicidal statements which indicated he was a threat to the public.[45] Two weeks prior to the shooting, he sent a text message asking a graduate student if they had heard of the disorder dysphoric mania, and warning the student to stay away from him "because I am bad news."[ Holmes' defense attorneys claimed in a motion he was a "psychiatric patient" of the medical director of Anschutz's Student Mental Health Services prior to the Aurora shooting; however, the prosecution disagrees with that claim.[41][42] Four days after the release of the defense attorney's motion, the judge required this information to be blacked out.[43] CBS News later reported that Holmes met with at least three mental health professionals at the University of Colorado prior to the massacre.[44] ;

Yet school teachers, hospital workers, public safety workers - sm

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Have to pass a background check. Most people have to pass a test to drive a car. They want to defend the Constitution? The guns they are selling (as many as you want) were not available when the Constitution was written.

This amendment does nothing to stop criminals - Truthhurts

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nor does any other legislation. In fact, it criminalizes veterans that see a VA psychiatrist just one time. There are stories from vets that because they went to a VA psychiatrist one time, their guns were confiscated even if they were not suffering from any mentally ill status. Is that what everyone wants? Gun confiscation?

As long as any bill does not punish criminals (Fast and Furious anyone?), all these bills do is punish law-abiding citizens. Drug dealers will still get guns. Gang members will still get guns. You think they're going to follow the law and buy guns legally? No -- they're still going to buy from the black market and any other source.

What do your 3 examples point out? All mentally ill schizophrenics. People have been aware of those three mentally ill people but did they do anything about it? NO, they didn't. It was after the fact that some people who knew these shooters stated that they knew they were mentally ill but didn't think they'd kill anyone.

Most other murders are committed by gangs and drug dealers with stolen, filed off serial numbers from the guns. Seems like too many people can't get that fact through their head.

Now comes the Boston marathon. Will they now ban duffel bags/back packs and pressure cookers, or will they ban ball bearings/BBs and nails? It wasn't the first time back packs, ball bearings or BBs and nails were used in a crime like this so I think we should start banning those items, don't you?

Does anyone see what I'm getting at? You can't protect everyone and you can't wrap everyone up in a cocoon and pat them on the head telling them no one will ever hurt anyone in this country again. If you expect that to happen, then you need to wake up.

Should we ban seat belts and air bags - They don't prevent fatal accidents

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But they do prevent very, very many serious injuries.

Oh, so this bill will not change anything with the VA confiscating weapons from former soldiers who many be suffering from PTSD and suicidality? Then why be against this bill?

I have worked in clinics and now do psych transcription where they have something called "involuntary status". Believe me, it is necessary and those weapons should be confiscated.

What are we stopping teachers and nurses from doing? - nm

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teaching, if they don't pass background checks - for one NM

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You can't buy a bomb at gun show, so that point is mute, - and

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From your post:

"People have been aware of those three mentally ill people but did they do anything about it? NO, they didn't. It was after the fact that some people who knew these shooters stated that they knew they were mentally ill but didn't think they'd kill anyone."

SO!! By all means, let's make it easy for mentally ill people to get guns. Their 2nd amendment rights are definitely more important than life itself.

You're making a point for the opposite side.

Background checks don't disclose mental hospitalizations. - sm

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You guys don't get it. That law would do nothing to make it any safer and to stop these tragedies from happening! It only looks for certain criminal convictions. It's a farce and just a ploy to whittle away at OUR Constitution! Criminals and mentally ill would still have access to weapons! Stop being sheeple and do some damn REAL research!

Are background checks carved on stone tablets? - Moses

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If not, I think they can be "adjusted" to accommodate you.

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