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Another "unprecedented day" in store for ChickfilA as

Posted: Aug 3, 2012

in an effort to acquaint its CEO with those his company's multimillion-dollar donations to anti-gay hate orgs place in their crosshairs. Among them will be gay youth, a cohort at times bullied into acting out suicidal ideations stoked by such groups and their foot soldiers, emerging from their isolation long enough to celebrate the festivities of Kiss-In Friday. National media will be standing by to ensure the company honors its "66-year-old service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect - regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender," as described in a recent faceless company statement defending ChickfilA "culture" of inclusion.

No word on plans for counter demonstrations by Christain my-way-or-the-highway family values ranks.

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Being anti-gay does not equate with hate. I don't - wannie

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believe that homosexuality is right, but I by no means hate gay people. That's just like the fact that I don't believe using drugs is right, but I don't hate the drug user. Just because someone doesn't agree with another's lifestyle doesn't mean they hate them. I really think everybody needs to just get a grip and move on.

I don't hate anyone who is different from me either... - I just don't want

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them having the same rights as me. They should just be happy we aren't burning them at the stake.

So are you saying... - Just asking.

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if someone is of a different color, religion, gender, childless/has children (opposite of you), that they should not have the same rights as you?

An empty argument.... - (see message)

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My husband was having a discussion about gay rights with a business associate the other day. The other guy said he doesn't think it's right to discriminate against gays, but his criterion for not agreeing with the gay lifestyle being "right" is that gays can't procreate. That indicates to him that gay sexual activity is "not right."

The hole in that argument is that if the only reason to engage in sexual activity is for the purpose of getting pregnant, or procreation, well....let's just say we all KNOW that's not the only reason a lot of people engage in sexual activity.

If sexual activity is wrong unless a baby can result, that would mean sterile couples should no longer have sex as well as any couples where the women is past menopause.

Sorry, "just asking".... - (see message)

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...I'm not sure how I posted my message "In reply to: So are you saying... - Just asking." Sorry, I wasn't posting mine as any kind of argument with or response to you. I thought I was just posting at the bottom of this thread. Durrrr....

No, OP says s/he doesn't really hate gays s/he'd just as soon - see burned alive!

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OMG. No wonder swing states are swinging as far away from these folks as they can get.

I am guessing/hoping/believing this was tongue-in-cheek...nm - ctmt

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If only it was, it would be so much nicer in this country. - nm

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I do see that you are not ...sm - VTMT

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open to the fact that sexual orientation is not chosen but just another part of who you are, some say God given.

No, I'm not open to the fact that sexual orientation is - wannie

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chosen any more than I believe that alcoholism is a disease. Both can be changed by the choices we make. That's just my opinion and we all are entitled to our own opinions. That's the beauty of living in a free country. We can agree to disagree without exchanging harsh words or being called haters or judgmental.

So homosexual behaviors observed across the animal kindgon - from primates to gut worms,

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including homo sapiens, be changed by self-help seminars on how to make better choices or pray-away-the-gay therapies? Your opinion, please.

Not trying to sound flippant, but I don't know anything about - wannie

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the sexual behavior of animals.

Really? - JTBB

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Then why comment on human sexual behavior. Last time I checked, we are animals, highly evolved (and that's debatable..lol), but still animals.

I'm not an animal. I am a human created from the dust of the - wannie

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earth. I didn't evolve. I was created.

And Santa is real!....sm - JTBB

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Ignoring and/or fearing scientific facts only serves to hinder the human race.

Once again, I have my opinion and you have yours. - wannie

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I think we should just agree to disagree.

Ummm, that homo sapiens are high order primates - is not a matter of opinion.

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The "high order" part may be debatable, but the primate thing, not even. Sorry if that hurts anyone's feelings, but this is just a fact of life we all must learn to deal with.

Sad part is - there are too many animals - on this board

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proven by their posts. Too bad they are no longer able to tell the difference. We call those people S __ __ T stirrers. They have not real convictions...just get on and post anything they think will get to someone. Pretty sad statement on their lives.

I agree, and that's what I thought wannie's - original post was SM

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and I still think might be. Doesn't it seem a tad "teenagery"? LOL made up word, but you know what I mean. So simple minded, made from the dust of the earth? I thought religious right people believed we came from Adam and Eve.

I stand corrected. I wasn't personally created from dust - Wannie

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But Adam was. My point was that I didn't evolve from an animal.

being anti-anything connotes intolerance - ctmt

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Being "anti" doesn't mean one is intolerant of the - wannie

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person, just intolerant of the behavior. There were things that I wouldn't tolerate from my children when they were younger, but that didn't mean I was intolerant of them; just their behavior.

Good with trying to get through to any Lib - They have no tolerance for anything

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they haven't dictated to the masses. Just look how they treat others on this board that disagree with them, ESPECIALLY the Alphabet Sisters. I'm with you. There are a lot of choices we make, and when someone wants to cram THEIR choice, down YOUR throat...they scream intolerance. Right up there with those always scraming racist when you disagree with their Anointed One.

Like cramming forbiddance of gay marriage down - everyone else's throat?

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Is that what you mean?

Gay people do not want to cram their "choice" - down your throat SM

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IMO it is not a choice. They want the same rights that you have as citizens in this country. Why anyone would think this is a choice is beyond me. Why would you set yourself up to be discriminated against and hated? Makes no sense at all.

feel free to make it up as you go along - ctmt

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No one is cramming anything anywhere. Do you ever tire of trotting out the "anointed one" thang?

You may not enjoy your "alphabet sisters", but I would not make fun of monikers if I were you, as it appears yours is "they have no tolerance for anything."

When you Libs stop with the namecalling THANG - and the alphabet sisters cut with

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their personal, snarky attacks...Oh wait, then they would have nothing to say. If you or anyone else think a nameless, faceless, FACTLESS entry by any alphabet sister is going to stop the rest OF US FROM CALLING YOU OUT, you got another THANG coming.

Are you racist?

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feel free to make it up as you go along...sm - ctmt

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I don't care for the accusations you level, and I find this post quite menacing. I don't mind if you want to meet me head-to-head over something real, but I can't swallow this stuff you serve up.

1) I do not unleash personal, snarky attacks. 2) I do not name-call. 3) I am not a racist. 4) You may report my messages any time you want.

Does your intolerance of their behaviors translate into - intolerance of their rights?

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Do they or do they not have the right to honor their love and enshrine their commitment to it within the institution of marriage? Yes or no?

try actually reading post - It never stated preference

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one way or the other...You all just lok for ANY crumb to stand on your soap box. Try actually reading and comprehending...good luck, looks like you'll need it.

Oh BTW - Chick has every right to spend THEIR money any way they see fit. You chew up NAMBLA lately and what they do with their funds?

Though I know it can be a challenge, try to distinguish - between a

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question and a statement. The OP consisted of two simple and straightforward questions that remain unanswered but evidently were enough to enourage this tailpin into personal attack territory and launch some wild off-topic tangent.

Must be chanlleging for you alone - Posts pretty clear

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Hard to account for your lack of comprehension and snark. Must be a liberal.

I stand corrected. It was three questions - not two.

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Here's what a clear post looks like:

Does your intolerance of their behaviors translate into intolerance of their rights (first question)? Do they or do they not have the right to honor their love and enshrine their commitment to it within the institution of marriage (second question)? Yes or no (third question)? Do you see any declarative statements therein? I don't.

....and here we have lack of comprehension and snark:

Try actually reading post. It never stated preference one way or the other...You all just lok for ANY crumb to stand on your soap box. Try actually reading and comprehending...good luck, looks like you'll need it. Oh BTW - Chick has every right to spend THEIR money any way they see fit. You chew up NAMBLA lately and what they do with their funds?

....the last sentence being the wild off-topic tangent.

ROFL.....sm - JTBB

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I feel ya....lolol

Yes...you should stand corrected - BTW - Since when did you

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take over telling posters what they can post, to what they can respond to, and demand they answer your questions? Get over yourself. Nothing you post is that profound. Yeah - you are loaded wt insults and snark, your stock in trade. ROFLMAO

OMG. Why have these three simple questions put me - on your hit list?

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Would be so kind as to show me how my humble question-statement observations amount to telling posters what they can post, what they can respond to, and demanding answers? While your at it, how did my copying and pasting (repeating) YOUR "lack of comprehension and snark" suddenly become my responsibility?

The above post has (count 'em) three rhetorical questions plus the following two declarative statements: For the record, no demands are being placed on you to reply. It's strictly up to you.

OMG - Like Grow Up Already - Posters can post

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what they like, how they like. If no one wants to answer your 2, 3 or 4 questions so what? Obviously no one thought they were important enough to jaw about but you. Get over yourself already.

The only thing I can say is that I believe - wannie

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marriage happens between a man and a woman.

Fine. No problem. - Do you also believe

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your personal beliefs should be encoded into the laws of the land to prevent the marriage of 2 fellow human beings who have had the good fortune to find each other, fall in love and wish to commit to sharing the rest of their lives within the bonds of matrimony?

I'm not asking about your party's stance on this and am not interested in your religious doctrine. I'm asking about your own personal feelings as to whether or not you have the right to impose these beliefs on others, keeping in mind no one is trying to force you into switching your sexual orientation or expecting you to restrict yourself to quasi-nuptial arrangements such as civil unions and the like. Do you feel you personally have the right to control this most intimate aspect of your fellow citizens lives by allowing government intrusion into their homes, their family structures and their bedrooms?

I'd also be interested to know if you think allowing same-sex marriage in any way undermines the sanctity of heterosexual unions? If so, how?

Then I guess you aren't anti-armed robbery, anti-rape, anti-Islamic extremism - or anti-conservatism for that matter right?

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It's always good to meet a deep thinker.

Looks like you didn't understand me... - ctmt

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Yes, as a matter of fact, I am anti-armed robbery, anti-rape, anti-extremism of all kinds - and yes, that means I am intolerant of these practices. And thank you, yes, I am a deep thinker.

Anti-anything connotes intolerance? (sm) - Aunt Sue

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Are you kidding me?? So we're just supposed to lie down and let people do what they want with us and to us? Did your mother ever tell you if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. One of my best friends is gay. I am not in favor of gay marriage, however. Civil union, fine, not marriage. It means something else to me. But it annoys the heck out of me when people call me a homophobe. That phobe suffix is stupid, it implies fear. I have no fear of gays. I just don't condone gay marriage. Period.

yep. I stand by what I said...sm - ctmt

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Certainly, I am "anti" lying down and letting people do what they want to me; and yes, that means I am intolerant of that.

If you are not in favor of gay marriage, I can understand; that is your feeling, your belief. If you are "anti" gay marriage, that is harder for me to understand.

i.e., I don't think you should be considered homophobic for not being in favor of gay marriage. However, being "anti" gay marriage, to me, is unnecessary - and intolerant.

The big difference... - (see message)

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....and I guess we won't see eye-to-eye about this, is that some of us don't believe that being gay is a choice. You don't HAVE TO use drugs. You don't HAVE TO drink alcohol. You don't HAVE TO over-eat.

But if you are born gay, you don't have a choice in the matter. So, in the minds of those of us who DO support marriage for all, saying you're against gay marriage is like saying you're against red-haired people being able to marry, or people of another race being able to marry, or near-sighted people being able to marry.

If you're against gays being able to marry, I'm sure you won't understand this, but I just wanted to state the way I see it.

Although I don't agree with him, I don't deny the Chick-Fil-A CEO the right to hold his opinion since he is not barring gays from working at or eating in his restaurants. I think it was poor judgment of him to state it, but I think he has every right to believe what he wants. I think it's wrong for some cities (Boston & Chicago) to want to bar his restaurants for his thoughts and beliefs, just as I think it's wrong for a community to not want to allow that Muslim community center to locate wherever it wished to locate--that was in the news a while back.

Nah, we don't agree on this one, but that's okay. We - wannie

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can have different opinions and that's okay. I'm not likely to change your mind and you're not likely to change mine, but we can state said opinions respectfully (which I think has been done). Thanks for respectfully disagreeing with me.

This really shouldn't even be an issue for...sm - JTBB

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politics. Seriously, who really cares if someone was born gay or if they just made that choice? Or better yet, whose business is it? Each of you should ask yourselves if you honestly think that your personal relationship realistically has any major bearing whatsoever on the sanctity of chistianity, much less the overall governance of the country. How many of you would like the government to decide if YOUR spouse is the right one for you?

Good for you - sm

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but all this means is you do not self identify with foot soldiers for hate groups that ChickfilA supports with its millions in donations. I think that’s a good thing, but it doesn't mean anti-gay extremists and the organizations they form do not promote division and hate. If you don't want to be identified with them, maybe you should consider joining the Kiss-In protesters in speaking out agaist ChickfilA, or encouraging GOP leadership to denounce antigay hate groups.

I wonder how you think LGBT ChickfilA employees (who the company has forbidden to be interviewed by the press, and who cannot afford to quit their jobs to make a political statement) feel to be forced to serve people lining up outside the establishment to express their utter disdain for them? One such 23-yo employee in Georgia, who has worked there for 7 years to finance a car and earn college tuition, described how those same customers spent hour after hour, proudly displaying their avid homophobia with statements, such as, “I'm so glad you don't support the queers, I can eat in peace,” or, “I support your company because it hates gays?” On the other hand, this same kid was "yelled at for being a God-loving, conservative, homophobic Christian” by another dissenting customer. Then again, there are straight employees, supportive of gay rights, who now must deal with the stigma of being labeled homophobic.

ChickfilA pours millions into groups like Family Research Council (designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center), and Exodus International (a ministry that endorses “cure” by ex-gay therapy), and other groups that fail to acknowledge the realities of their homophobic fomentations: More than 85 percent of LGBT students report being bullied and harassed because of their sexual or gender identity. Of those, 20 percent have been physically attacked. Between 30 and 40 percent of LGBT youth have attempted suicide, and are four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers. It is the third leading cause of death among LGBT kids in the 15-24-yo age group. Chris Armstrong, the first openly gay elected president of the University of Michigan student body, was labeled “Satan’s representative” by Michigan’s assistant district attorney, Andrew Shirvell, who claims he is pushing “a radical homosexual agenda that recruits incoming freshman” into his sinful lifestyle.

Why not ask any one of them about the finer points of which antigays are haters and which aren’t….or Brandon Elizares, Kenneth Weishuhn, Jack Reese, Cory Jones, Jamey Rodemeyer, Tyler Clementi, Seth Walsh, Asher Brown, or Billy Lucas? No wait, you can’t. They’re no longer with us, all middle-school, high-school and college students who recently succeeded in escaping their insufferable private torments, via overdosing on drugs, shooting and hanging themselves, diving off buildings and jumping from overpass bridges into oncoming traffic.

http://www.sprc.org/sites/sprc.org/files/library/SPRC_LGBT_Youth.pdf

http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED334503&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED334503

http://www.thetrevorproject.org/suicide-resources/suicidal-signs

eat more chicken - sm

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Chickfila can spend THEIR money any way THEY want. Why do you care? If you don't like how a corp is run or the beliefs of the management, here's a thought - don't eat there. Period. Man, these witch hunts are getting so tiresome. Is this the newest war - The "war on gays?" (rolls eyes).

Oh, and by the way, you can disagree with someone's lifestyle without hating them.

Unfortunately, the closest Chickfila is 40 miles from me. Instead, I went to the online store and bought a T-shirt and travel mug in supportof Mr. Cathy's right to his beliefs.

Chicago and Boston mayors can try to keep Chickfila out of their cities, but it won't work in a court of law - we're not a fascist state (yet).

Hahaha..... - JTBB

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Get out of my business and into my bedroom.

Does it work both ways? - (see message)

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I totally agree that Chick-Fil-A should be able to spend their money any way they want, locate anywhere they want, hold whatever beliefs they want.

Perhaps you're not in this camp, but I'm guessing it's a good bet that a lot of the people who've supported Chick-Fil-A so happily this week (totally their right, BTW!) would be less than happy (if they're being totally honest) about the Islamic community center and mosque that was going in at a location near Ground Zero in NYC. Why did so many object to that? Was it because they don't agree with Muslims' thoughts and beliefs? And that group was actually trying to develop a center that wanted to HELP people, and I don't mean help them reach diabetes mellitus faster!

What do I care? - I'm so glad you asked that question.

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Because for me, it’s personal. Really, really personal. Not only was my brother an extremely gifted individual, he was the most gentle and kind person I have ever known. No one could have asked for a better bro.

He was his high-school valedictorian, completed an undergraduate journalism degree in 3 years with a 3.87 GPA while working part-time and volunteering at Big Brothers, went to Columbia on a Fulbright scholarship where he took his master's in International and Public Affairs, and was both fluent and literate in French, Spanish and German. He intended to pursue a doctorate but needed to raise funds. His first post graduate job was with the South African Consulate as their office manager, who also contracted his services as a translation specialist.

Within the first year of his employment, just shy of his 26th birthday, he committed suicide by drug overdose. My sisters, my mom and I sat helplessly by and watched him go into multi-organ system failure, one-at-a-time. It was the most agonizing week of our lives, before or since. I should mention the remarkable accomplishments in his short time with us were achieved while suffering from full-blown alcoholism that had its onset before he graduated from high school. I should also mention that, since he never had a relationship with a girl that we knew of and, since he left no suicide note behind, we were left to conclude his decision was based on homosexuality he never openly admitted to any of us. As you can see, he spent the final hour of his life the same way he had lived it all his adult years....locked in a closet, isolated, and wrapped in a shroud of secrecy, self-loathing and shame.

Our suspicions were confirmed about a year later, when his partner showed up on my mom’s doorstep to share his grief. He was welcomed into our home with open arms. His entry into our lives helped us immensely in dealing with the heartbreak of wondering why my brother never “came out” to his family, who would have wholeheartedly embraced him, along with his lifestyle, despite the fact it was 30 years ago, when gay-bashing was still socially accepted as the amusing butt of cruel and exceedingly ignorant queer jokes.

As any human being whose heart does not pump ice water into their veins might well imagine, our family lives were shattered forever by this loss. We stopped celebrating Christmas together that same year, as the pain of his absence was more than any of us could openly bear. I can only thank God my mom (a Goldwater Tory type) is not still around to see the extremes to which her beloved party's conservative factions have taken their hideous hatred. My sisters and I are left to deal with the grief stories like ChickfilA resurrect from the depths of our most sorrowful days.

So it is my sincerest hope that, the next time you don your spiffy new T-shirt (rolls eyes), or fill your shiny new “eat-more-chicken” travel mug to the brim with steamy Morning Joe on your way out the door to embrace the joys life has to offer, you will stop and remember, if only for a brief, passing moment, my brother and his story. In the meantime, I promise to pass his story along to anyone who cares enough to take the time to listen, and to remember the Christian "family values" factions who think how ChickfilA spends its money is none of my business.

Trust me... - if it were up to many

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on this message board, Anne Frank would have been turned over to the Nazis on day one because someone "didn't approve of her lifestyle choice." There would still be whites and colored drinking fountains and toilets and back of the bus for anyone else. Very few will stand up for what is right for anyone else any more because because "Hey, I got mine, too bad if you don't have yours."

Totally agree...sm - JTBB

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I think they've forgotten what "the rule of thumb" was all about.

I'm very sorry for your loss. Losing someone you love - wannie

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is always hard, no matter the circumstances. I lost my father in February and the pain is still almost more than I can bear some days.

How any one chooses to live their life is between them and their creator. It doesn't mean that I have to agree with it. Not agreeing with it doesn't make me a hater. The Cathy family has the right to spend their money how they want to and support groups as they choose, the same way McDonald's does. It doesn't make them haters, either. I applaud anyone who states a stand for what they believe. It takes guts to do that, whatever your beliefs may be.

Correction....sm - JTBB

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What takes "guts" is standing up for what is morally right, not funding those who would take rights away from others.

Correction. Guts is standing up for what any one person believes - wannie

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is morally right.

With you all the way wannie - Don't back down

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And therein lies the problem...sm - JTBB

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Just because a person believes something, doesn't make it true. He11, I know a guy who thinks he went to the moon, but I bet he didn't. Because that's what he truely believes, does that make his story true? No. Beliefs, in my opinion, are nothing more than perception, and perception is subjective.

So, with that in mind, if a gay person is in a relationship and thinks the morally correct thing to do is to get married, and another person thinks the moral thing to do is to prevent that marriage, who is to say what is truely right? Why should the morals of one person be seen as more superior so as to determine the rights of another?

You can't say, yay for Cathy because he stuck up for what he believes in and then crap all over the LGBT community for trying to do what they believe in.

Therein lies your problem - You only want "tolerance"when it suits

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you or the liberal belief of the week. Cathy has ever right in the world to spend his money how he sees fits on beliefs important to him. Unfortunately, libs want to dictate what should be believed, when it shoudld be believed, what should be "acceptable", how it should be "accepted" and the lib demands go on. Still waiting for a lib to respond to another poster that wanted to know why no outrage over how NAMBLA spends their money, what they support, what they contribute to. Hypocrisy never in short supply with libs.

When you have no answer, just change the subject... - JTBB

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AGAIN.

When you have no answer, just change the subject... - JTBB - Sounds like YOUR calling card

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in between the insults, namecalling and snark. Now flame.

Yep The NAMBLABLABLA non sequitur sure is getting a - a lot of play

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but unfortunately is taking their dialog to the same dead end. Judging from the posts it been thrown down in front of, it's your logic that's sent them into such a tizzy. It reminds me of the same malady that's plaguing Romney's overall campaign strategy.

NAMBLA? Since you were waiting for a lib to respond.... - ctmt

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I seriously hope you are not equating the activities of consenting adults with an organization that supports grown men having sex with boys!

I didn't say the LGBT community shouldn't try to - wannie

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speak out about what they believe in and fight for the right to do what they believe in. By the same token, I have the right to stand for what I believe in and fight for it. The Cathy family has that same right, which is exactly what they have done. I think it's probably time we end this conversation. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. I have to live by my convictions and you by yours. Have a blessed evening!

The key word in your entire post, in my - sm

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opinion, is "superior."

They believe they are superior to anyone who is tolerant to gays. They believe their religion is superior to anyone else's. They believe they hold the exclusive keys to heaven because they are superior to those who believe differently than they believe. They believe their morals are superior, etc., etc., etc., etc.

I am more spiritual than I am religious, and I have the absolute right to believe how I believe. I certainly don't believe that anyone who disagrees with me is inferior, but I also don't believe they're superior to me.

I sure don't believe they have a right to stick their noses into the personal lives of others, be they gay or otherwise.

Judging by their own behavior and words on this board, they seem like a very unhappy group of people and are absolutely NOT superior to anyone who is gay.

this does not include taking rights away from others - ctmt

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seeking to limits the rights of others has nothing to do with guts.

What is moral about donating money to hate - groups whose sole SM

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purpose is to bring pain and suffering to others? How is that moral, Wannie? I find it very strange that those with so-called Christian values find this "moral". I believe in the Golden Rule "do unto others ......". If someone does not think being gay is a bad thing, fine. If it does not impact your life in any way, why not just keep it to yourself and go on with your own life without making a point to hurt others in your journey.

haet groups - Cathy doesn't fit that title

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"If it does not impact your life in any way, why not just keep it to yourself and go on with your own life without making a point to hurt others in your journey."

Maybe gays should practice what YOU preach. Clear the bleeding hearts on her here have no idea what millions Cathy spends on taking care of children, hungry and homeless. BTDW- Cathy does not question the sexual preference of the hungry before he feeds them. Does far more good for communities than any of the screaming liberal meemies on this board that think they are so socially evolved and superior because they attack 1 poster relentless (wannie) because she has the guts to stand up to those attacking her. BTDW too - When a gay friend of mine was dying from AIDs, I went over to care for him, dose his meds, sit with him when ALL, AND I MEAN ALL HIS LIBERAL FRIENDS ABANDONED HIM. Could not even be bothered to call him.

BTDW AGAIN, I am a Christian. I hated his lifestyle , but I loved him as a human. Huge difference you libs will never get, all the while you're so caught up in your self-righteous dictates to others as to what is "christian"...you don'the know the meaning of the word. You and all your self-righteous blow hards could not be a patch on Cathy's A$$.....Now flick your BIC!

How do you know if I am a liberal or not? How - do you know if I am SM

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a Christian or not? Sweeping generalizations. I really don't know what it means when someone states "I am a Christian". Does that make you somehow special in some way? Does it make what you say special in some way? I really don't know.

Don't give a - ...

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rat's a$$ what you are or aint. As for sweeping generalizations, libs famous for them all over this board. When you clear up YOUR hypocristy, then you get to attack other posters.

Impossible for me to care less about your OPINION of my post. Does that make YOU special in some way? Nope, you're just another blow hard mounting an attack because you don't like a post or the opinion therein...get over yourself.

agree...nm - ctmt

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Will support Cathy too - Another poster sick of liberal

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witch hunts. Every week, it's another group the liberals go after. They think they are so socially evolved and hold that up as if they are someone to copy. Sad they are so insecure they have to trade off of someone else's misery to make themselve feels good. Can hardly wait for their next bogus war on....(fill in the blank, then roll your eyes....LOLOL).

I don't think you want to talk about witch hunts... - ctmt

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it would take time away from looking for Churchill's bust, Huma Abedin's social connections...and Romney's tax returns.

: ) - lol

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They are socially evolved. To move forward, - to progress, to be open SM

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to change and new ideas is my idea of being socially evolved. I can't think of the correct phrase for someone who wants to deliberately hurt others but it certainly is not evolved. I'm glad I was not raised that way because to live with hate in your heart is not a good way to live.

say these words - see message

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"I believe in Traditional Marriage."

And watch the libs/gay supporters DEVOLVE into foaming at the mouth, hate-spewing, vile creatures.

Devolution brought to you by the intolerant leftists.

I couldn't care less... - (see message)

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....if you believe in "Traditional Marriage." (Although I'm not quite sure why you capitalized that!) I don't care WHAT someone else BELIEVES IN, as long as they don't try to impose their BELIEFS on me. I try not to impose MY beliefs on anyone else, either.

What I DO care about is if you want to prevent gays from having the same human rights as other citizens have. I care if you want to restrict gay marriage, a gay partner being able to be with their loved one as they lay dying in a hospital, a gay couple from adopting a child, a gay person from holding a job, or a gay person from having all the spousal rights of any other citizen....some gay couples having been together in a loving, committed relationship longer than a lot of their heterosexual counterparts (and WOULD have been legally married long ago if they had been allowed to be).

I support these rights, and I have never, ever foamed at the mouth, spewed hate, or been considered even CLOSE to being a "vile creature." I'm deeply saddened that characterization of all gay supporters being lumped together. :-(

No...you carry a far more destructive - hate in your heart

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