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AWW what a shame for the 'birthers'


Posted: Oct 30, 2009

NOTE the comments I bolded below - of the judge's comment on the bringers of the suit:

(CNN) - President Barack Obama may have one less problem to worry about.

A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit that claimed Obama is ineligible to be president because he isn't a bona fide U.S. citizen.

The lawsuit represented the claim by the so-called "birthers" movement that Obama was not born in Hawaii - despite a birth certificate to the contrary - or that if he was, his citizenship was invalidated by living overseas as a child.

In a 30-page ruling, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter of California said his court lacked the jurisdiction to rule on a case intended to unseat a sitting president.

Carter's ruling said the plaintiffs were trying to persuade him to "disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president."

"The process for removal of a sitting president - removal for any reason - is within the province of Congress, not the courts," the ruling said.

Carter's ruling also noted that the plaintiffs "have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution."

"Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this court is not unpatriotic," the ruling said. "Quite the contrary, this court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism."

 

MAYBE THESE PLAINTIFFS WOULD DO WELL TO GET A CLUE ABOUT WHAT PATRIOTISM IS AND ISN'T - AND LEARN THE FUNCTIONS OF THE JUDICIARY VERSUS CONGRESS...

 

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still does not help Obama's policy problems. - THEY STINK..he needs to go !.nm

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It was brought to the wrong court - Sheeples

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Only Quo Warranto cases can be brought heard in DC. That's why it was dismissed, and it should have been. Judge Carter did a good job.

Haha. I left an "and" out in that post. - Sheeples

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In addition, I agree with Judge Carter (even though the quotes above are taken out of context and very stilted). No one should be wasting the court's and His Honor's time with this poorly researched BS.

That said, BHO still isn't eligible. Watch and wait.....

NO court is the right one... - me

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Maybe you knew that, but as the article states, the case was thrown out of other courts because ONLY Congress can remove a sitting president.

ONLY Congress.

And the man IS a US Citizen! - Colleen

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End of statement.
Then "the man" should just show the darn thing so people - would shut up.. his fault !.nm
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"The man" has~ - Colleen
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As usual, those who do not WANT to believe it work overtime to find ways to try and discredit it. There are some for whom no proof is adequate proof. They will question because they can and they want to do anything they can to drag the president through the mud. This does not change the facts! The man IS a US citizen and these people need to go away and shut the h**l up!
You DON'T know this - Hmmm
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I dropped the issue a long time ago. Figured when the courts get around to it the truth will come out.

Fact #1: He has not proven it.
Fact #2: The phony bc he provided is just that - phony (i.e. forged, fake, poorly photo shopped).
Fact #3: The courts are still determining this.

and Fact #4: You DON'T know this - nobody does.

So until it comes out for certain stop acting like you know, when even the best lawyers and judges don't know.

End of statement.

P.S. - Whether he is or not I don't care anymore. This country is in such a bad way. Once they clean up the country then that will be on my list of concerns. And if it comes out he is not American born all I'll say is I'll be glad that it wasn't an American who did this to our country.
I'll be proud I did - NJ
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To your ps:

I will always be very proud that I worked and voted for Obama. And yes, we can know he is a citizen as well as we can know anything in this world. Theories that he is not a US citizen is merely what some racist kook dreamed up.

NJ
Same here, NJ - Colleen
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And there are a LOT of kooks out there.
Thank you for proving my point - Colleen
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Case in point. Someone who will not accept any proof regardless.

Learn about quo warranto, please. - Sheeples

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Thank you.
I don't need to "learn" about quo nothin' - me
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I posted the story from CNN as to why *this* latest judge through out the case and *why* - that's all. I didn't previously state a position either way.

Now, however, I believe the issue is a ridiculous desparate attempt to unseat this president - "after" the fact - which I don't believe can be done through the Courts - bypassing Congress.

But if the group bringing suit persists in petitioning more Courts, then I guess we'll find out if *any* Court will hear the case.

Well I'd like to know why congress didn't remove Bush - just me

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My understanding is he did numerous things worth impeachment. So why didn't they?
Because they are corrupt as Bush - me
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that's the short answer
Heeding their constituents? - NJ
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Until people started getting involved again, the only voices congress heard were the screamers. You know, the ones who would throw a president out for getting a bj (oh no, it was *lying about it* that mattered, as if anything about it mattered). The special prosecutor looked and looked and looked, and finally backed him into a corner about his affair. BFD *shrug*

I don't think anyone in this country will go after Bush and Cheney, so I'm hoping someone else in the world hangs war crimes on 'em.

NJ

As previously noted....there is no "right" court for this....(sm) - Just the big bad

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The only thing this whole fabrication about the man's birth place has done is spend taxpayer dollars, of course, by those fiscally conservative pubs. --Those would be the same ones crying about spending money on the stimulus, healthcare, and any and everything else this country needs.

Tell me, are people like you who support this whole charade now ready to pay back the rest of us whose money has been wasted on this? I doubt it.

There is. Please, please learn about the law. - Sheeples

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FWIW, I believe he was born in Hawaii. That's not the issue.
See message - makes sense to me
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"The combination of Article I and the Twenty-Fifth Amendment leads the Court to conclude that there is a textually demonstrable constitutional commitment of the issue of the removal of a sitting president to a coordinate political department, the Legislative branch . . . on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution's mechanisms for the removal of a President, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment . . . The process for removal of a sitting president; removal for any reason, is within the province of Congress, not the courts."

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