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Wrinkle tips

Posted: Jan 17, 2015

Help, please!! I am turning 40 this year and I have started getting the lines under my eyes and I hate them. Does anyone know of any creams that I can buy that legitimately do help with face wrinkles. I'm an MT, on an MT budget, so I'm talking Wal-Mart or pharmacy creams, not anything super expensive.

And, one more question. Also facial makeup. Anyone know a good base foundation that covers wrinkles really well? Again, I'm talking Wal-Mart or CVS not expensive department stores.

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Try this product - sm

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Fruit of the Earth Vitamin E Skin Care Cream from Dollar General. It comes in a two pack for about $4. I don't have wrinkles (I've had acne and oily skin since age 12), but I have a friend who uses this for wrinkles around the eyes. She looks great, so I guess it works! (I use this cream on my heels.) I can't recommend makeup because, again, I use a product for oily skin.

You can't stop the hands of time - Laila

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No cream in a bottle is going to stop you from aging. Most of them are junk anyway. I am also turning 40 this year and about 5 years ago I really started to obsess over my aging face. I tried cheap creams, I tried semi-expensive creams, scrubs, moisturizers, etc. Nothing worked. I've learned to accept the changes that have come with age and I've never been more at ease and comfortable with myself in all my life. Unless you have the money for cosmetic procedures such as injections or peels, there is really nothing that is going to reverse time. I would say living well works better than anything you can buy at the drugstore. Exercise, drink lots of water, get lots of sleep, eat healthy, stay out of the sun, moisturize, laugh, smile, enjoy the world outside of your bathroom mirror, and embrace the fact that you do get older, you no longer look 20 years old, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I LOVE your advice - sm

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I also went crazy at about 35 over the lines on my face, especially the "parentheses" around my mouth. I tried everything I could afford to diminish them to no avail. I stopped wasting my money and just decided I am what I am. I have a very simple routine -- I ALWAYS wash my face before bed. I use Noxema, nothing expensive. A few times a week I scrub my face with sugar and lemon juice. It leaves my skin feeling supple and smooth. I use an egg white mask on my face three times a week to diminish pores. I don't wear makeup much, but when I do I've found that I have to buy a very nice foundation (I buy Estee Lauder). The cheap stuff doesn't look good on me anymore. And I exercise and try to eat well, but I do not diet. If I want a piece of cheese cake, I eat a piece of cheese cake. Aging is attitude, really. I am no defined by my looks as I was 20 years ago. I am no longer the youngest and prettiest woman in the room and that doesn't bother me anymore.

That being said, stay out of the sun as much as possible, wear sunscreen, wear sunglasses. If you can get a retinol product from your doctor, that might help to slow the lines from getting worse, but eventually nothing will.

i bet the 'parentheses' are adorable - u just don't know it

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because they're 'your' 'parentheses'! A good post, too! :)

I think I saw an actress recently--who was it--? (too old to remember anything past the last hour or so, if that)--but I think she had what you describe and they were just the cutest!

You guys don't know it yet, but 40 is still a 'kid.' Think Gwynneth P, Matt D, Ben and Jen A, JLo (even older), Angelina, etc.; all look like youngsters to me now, and I'm not that much older...Let's just say from my perspective, I believe you have a good 7-8 years left before panic, despair and acceptance need set in! :)

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. - sm

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My uncle who turned 100 this year once told me life begins at 50. I was still in my 40s at the time and thought he was getting senile. Lo and behold that geezer, who's still independent and sharp as a tack, knew exactly what he was talking about. I wouldn't go back to 40 for all the tea in China.

True! I was beset by depression in my 40s. - In my 50s I had beat the - sm

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depression, was fitter than I'd been in my life, and had all sorts of adventures. The 60s aren't half-bad either, healthwise; however, lack of finances have put a bit of a damper on the fun these days.

Other than the lines between your eyes in the - middle would think the most

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women complain of to a plastic surgeon would be the nasolabial folds, as you call them the parentheses. Talk about aging. Those things are the worst!

Mine are all worse on the left side, because of - all the driving I have done over -sm

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the years. The sun comes in from the left, and ages that side of your face faster. Look at any truck driver, and you can see what I mean. Now, I don't get in the car without sunscreen on.

The more wrinkles we have, the more we should - SMILE! S/M

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Then the wrinkles become "laugh lines", and are attractive. Frowning, whatever your age, makes everyone look much older. If you smoke, try to quit. It's easy to recognize a smoker right away by the looks of their face, the downward-pointing lines around their mouths and the pucker-marks above the lips.

It's a marathon, not a sprint. - sm

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Skin typically dries and becomes less elastic as we age. Adjust the regimen with that in mind. I was where you are 25 years ago, single parent on a budget working long MT hours. Regular affordable skin care for me was back to time tested basics.

Makeup removal especially from eyes with either Vaseline or baby oil. These double as excellent overnight foot care preparations with a pair of socks and pumice stone and generic apricot scrubs in the morning. I'd get Pond's or generic cold creams when they went on sale. All very effective, but they leave residue.

Witch hazel astringent takes care of that. Rosewater and glycerin for toner, the basic active ingredients in more expensive products, like L'Oreal which I treated myself to whenever I could find some splurge money. Dove or cocoa butter soaps for body and face with gentle clean washrag massage and towel dry. Oil of Olay or Nivea overnight moisturizers 2-3 times per week. Epsom salt or Vaseline Intensive care bath salts soaks 1-2 times per week. Nivea and VIC body lotions.

Don't forget to look in your refrigerator and pantry for face masks and hair care. Cucumber, raw potatoes, tea bags, tomato products, lemon juice, turmeric, are excellent fixes for racoon eyes and fine wrinkles. Various combinations egg yolks, sour cream, yogurt, lemon juice, olive oil, beer, honey, avocado, mayonnaise, and baking soda can be used on face and for hair conditioning and setting. Google hair and skin home remedies for details.

Vitamin E, healthy diet and enough rest all help. The only makeup tip I have is to let a light layer O of O moisturizer absorb before applying foundation. I played around with combinations of dry skin liquid and power-to-cream foundations with good results. As you age, less is more is a good rule of thumb to avoid the dreaded wrinkle cakes.

I've used all of these over the years. At 66, I still don't have wrinkles--a few minor gravity sags here and there and a hint of turkey neck threat--but no wrinkles. My husband says I look like mid or late 40s, even with natural gray streaked hair I let grow in a few years ago and only a smidge of makeup. I'll take it.

One more thing. There comes a time when you reach the point of diminishing return. The solution to that is to embrace graceful aging, wear it with pride, take care of yourself and remember the wisdom of old sayings. You are as young as you feel inside. Any woman's best beauty secret is a smiling face and a sparkle in the eye.

Re: Good Foundation...SM - Old Anon

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A heavy foundation will actually accentuate wrinkles by sitting in the wrinkles/creases. What you need is a lighter foundation. I use L'Oreal True Match but mix in an illuminating liquid moisturizer. Put a dime-sized amount of foundation in the palm of your hand, add an equal amount of the liquid moisturizer, then stir it all together in your palm. I have a tiny plastic spatula just for this, or you could use a Q-tip. Essentially what you get is a tinted BB cream but for lots less money in the long run. As skin ages, you need a lighter illuminating foundation rather than a thicker heavier one. The BB creams are good and most of the major brands in drug stores have one. O'Oreal also makes a lotion called Blur which is an illuminator without any tint for just a natural look. Hope I've helped.

Using makeup sponges - sm

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to pat foundation and moisturizer mix on instead of smearing and eliminating powder finish helps with matting.

I slowed down the aging and no one can tell me - how nice aging is, nah for me

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In the eye situation around 40s I had bags under my bags and I hated them. Smiling would have made no difference in those, so that was my first facelift. I was thrilled! I then went on after 10 years to have another one, again thrilled! I also had a breast reduction because got tired of my breasts entering a room some 5 minutes before the rest of my body, yep that large and then had a tummy tuck. I would not change any of that for smiling and enjoying wrinkles, lines, bags. I also keep my hair its original color. If others want gray, fine, again not my choice.

And you paid for all of those cosmetic - surgeries - sm

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on an MT salary? Hell, if I could afford to do all that, I might, but seeing as I am flat broke and do not have a sugar daddy, I guess I'm stuck with the reality that I will eventually turn into a hideous beast. Frankly, the time it would take to be so narcissistic would be a luxury at this point. I'm too busy trying to work to pay my bills.

But, good for you for living the dream.

It just boils down to priorities, and how much - a person wants it. s/m

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We only get ONE life, and I think we should do whatever we can to enjoy ourselves and our lives. Where there's a will, there's a way to finance what we really want out of life.

True - we only get one life - sm

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and I would rather not spend my one life worrying about fixing every line and wrinkle and piece of flab that manifests on my body. That sounds exhausting and I don't want to waste my time on it. I can take care of myself and look good for my age without looking like I'm desperately fighting against it. It is surprisingly liberating when aging no longer frightens you.

Not knocking you. Whatever makes you happy.

Think not one woman living who does not - think about what if and if not

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don't believe you are being truthful. Most women want to look good, youthful, wrinkle free and also flab free. I do not believe any woman who says oh just like me the way I am, wrinkles, gray hair and that flab hanging under my chin. Not buying that.

I never said I completely like me - just as I am

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I said I'm not going to spend my life worrying about it. There are plenty of things I don't like about my appearance, but that has always been true. When I was young I disliked different things. I was too skinny, didn't have the right hair, my skin wouldn't tan, for a time I hated my nose, then I hated my ears, then my lips weren't the shape I wanted, my breasts not the size I wanted, I thought my feet looked weird, my butt, my hips, on and on and on. If I had spent every day worrying about what was bothering me about my appearance at that moment in my life I wouldn't have lived a life. It scares me to think that if I had taken to the plastic surgeon every time I didn't like something about myself what I would look like right now. It isn't that I love everything I see when I look in the mirror, it's that I accept what I see. I accept that I am not that young girl any more, and recognize how silly that young girl was for disliking herself so much, because she looked good! She was not comfortable in her skin, I am. That is what I am saying. I am comfortable with myself, and as a result I am comfortable with the changes that come with living. I don't always like them and I don't always accept them right away, but I'm not going to stress about it.

And you are right... like you, I want to look good too and I accomplish that by taking care of myself. I exercise, I eat well. I've avoided direct sunlight since I was 18 years old and most people say I look younger than I am and I'm not gonna lie.. that feels GREAT to hear! I want to look good for my age. I don't want to look like I'm trying to look 25 years old. That horse done left the barn. I don't know how else to explain it. It just feels wonderful to feel good in my skin, even if that skin is a little crinkled and wrinkled in places it didn't used to be.

This is my way of thinking. Yours is different. I didn't mean to sound like I was putting your choices down. I apologize if I came across that way. They are simply not choices I would make.

To each their own - I guess

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I lost my mother when I was 13, she was 50. I'm now in my 40s and I've thought about getting some things done to "freshen" my appearance, but every now and then I'll catch a glimpse of my mother when I see myself in the mirror or in a photo and I like seeing her again. I think for that reason I would not alter my face. I do realize that at some point I will (hopefully) surpass my mother in age and I will no longer see her. That makes me sadder than I can express. Perhaps then I'll want to alter my appearance, but I am doubtful. I am actually grateful to get the chance to age. There are worse things in life than wrinkles. But that is just me.

To each their own, I did slow down the aging - and wanted my mother to do so also

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My mother in her younger years was an absolute beauty, in fact had screen test once for Hollywood. I was in awe of her as a young girl. Mother had the money to have had plastic surgery and as she aged I tried to talk her into a facelift and she said no. When you say look into a mirror to see your mother, this happened to me about 5 years ago. When I grew up there were 2 brothers that lived 2 doors from us. One of the brothers, long grown, died and I went to the wake. The younger brother knew immediately who I was without my telling him because he said I looked exactly like my mother and would have known me anywhere. I had last seen him probably 30 or more years ago. I guess the 2 facelifts did not take the resemblance away.

No such thing as one size fits all - Not a problem

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but some of us with financial constraints don't have the luxury of that choice. As an MT I take plastic surgery horror stories seriously. I'm not just talking about botched Botox balloon lip injections or the unnatural homogenous face many celebrities have after multiple procedures with shining skin stretched tightly over apple cheek implants. I'm thinking more along the lines of Michael Jackson, Wayne Newton, Jocelyn Wildenstein, Donatella Versace, and Jackie Stallone whose OCD and body dysmorphia sadly transformed natural beauty into monstrosity.

Potential medical complications are swelling, numbness, tingling, burning, paralysis, pain, dimpling, puckering, bruising, scarring, seroma, hematoma, discoloration, blood clots, infection, gangrene, necrosis, wound dehiscence, implant detachment, displacement, asymmetry, shifting, bagging, floating, deflation, contracture, tightness, rigidity, tearing, immune system rejection, allergy reactions, leaking, septic shock, organ failure, and death.

Ah, no thanks. Too drastic for me considering the only real benefit is postponing the inevitable a few years. Best of all, a smile, twinkle in the eye and peace of mind all come free of charge and carry zero risks.

Think being in this profession most know what - can happen with any surgery

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not just elective. I say everyone do what they want and I certainly did. I not only got rid of the bags for good some 25 plus years later and if nothing else that suits me just fine. As far as the tummy, no longer the hang over that bothered me. Once gone it has stayed gone. I am glad not only to have gotten through my electives, but also childbirth. That also carries risks but most of us want that, right?

I think it's great your electives turned out so well for you - sm

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but fail to see the point of comparing childbirth to face lifts and tummy tucks. The risks and benefits of the two couldn't be further apart, particularly in the case of vaginal deliveries. I don't know anyone who sees reduction of eye bags and belly blubber as a medical imperative somehow on par with human reproduction. Again, I have no beef with others who think a younger appearance is worth that laundry list of potential miseries and possible disastrous outcomes. I'm just not one of them and prefer using cucumbers, tea bags and a physical fitness to achieve those goals. Works for me.

Are you an MT and you cannot see why - the comparison?

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A laundry list of why not to have electives, and, so? If you don't know about the pitfalls of deliveries, be they natural or C-section, you could be a lay person. I would say most go into childbearing not saying it might be a molar, or it might cause HELLP syndrome and I could die, I might have gestational diabetes, my uterus could rupture with death ensuing. Before women get pregnant most do not go to a gynecologist with give me different things that could go wrong with me because otherwise might not go through with a pregnancy. With electives you are told up front about what could go wrong. You choose if you want to accept or not. There are pitfalls to most things people do and so?

After 40 years as an MT - sm

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I'm pretty sure childbirth risks do not include facial, breast, torso, buttock or extremity disfigurement, or the previously specified complications of cosmetic surgery. Since no implants are involved, childbirth also does not pose risks of detachment, displacement, asymmetry, shifting, bagging, floating, deflation, contracture, tightness, rigidity, tearing, immune system rejection, allergy reactions, leaking, septic shock, organ failure, and death.

I think bringing my kids into the world was worth the risks of childbirth. I also think the risks of TAH/BSO were worth definitively treating chronic debilitating pain and associated major depression of endometriosis that was threatening to disable me after five years of suffering. I'm not the least bit interested in unnecessarily inviting more "pitfalls" into my life for the sake of vanity. What's so hard about that and what's with the lay person speculation?

If you think all those risks are worthwhile to rid yourself of eye bags and belly fat, more power to you.

I decided to color my hair because I wasn't - lucky enough to get (sm)

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that beautiful "salt & pepper" look that women with black hair get. I have brown/dishwater blonde hair, and as it started going gray, it looked mousey. I use L'Oreal home hair color, and it comes out great! No monotone, either. My hair actually seems to be healthier when colored, with less split ends. I think the color itself helps to fill up irregularities in the hair shafts. I did go a shade lighter, with highlights, which looks better with an aging face than a dark eye job. Plus it hides returning grays better than dark hair. The older I get, the lighter I'll probably go, so that when I ultimately don't feel like coloring it anymore someday, the transition will be less abrupt.

hair color - gem

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Always had brown hair, talked into highlights which I love but the price I pay at the salon is over for my budget. Never tried OTC color. How does one get a lighter brown with color which includes highlights. My highlights lift my spirits, however to go full blonde would not be me. Any product to recommend and does it make a smelly mess? Don't know how I'm goig to reach the back. Thanks@

I'm certainly no expert, but I've found that - most people"s natural hair color - sm

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isn't monotone, it's comprised of many shade variations from light to dark. When you get a hair color that's a bit lighter than your natural shade, just as it shows in the example on the box, each hair will absorb the color differently, depending on its individual shade before coloring, and the coarseness of the hair shaft. I also never leave the hair color on for any longer than the time shown on the box.

One time I did use a brown that was dark enough that it matched my natural shade. It was fine that way, but I wanted more highlights, so a couple days later I went back and used a highlighter. That seems to look best when you don't get too heavy-handed with the highlighter mix. Doing a few hairs together is better than doing a clump of them, unless you specifically WANT that "chunky" look. I don't, I prefer a more natural look.

Plastic surgery frightens me. - Lex

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Even the non-invasive things like fillers or implants. We all could name plenty of famous, formerly beautiful actresses who look ridiculous after they let a plastic surgeon mess with their faces. It would seem most of them are deluded and do not realize how bad they look. How can they not? I don't know. And these are the astronomically expensive surgeons who specialize in the ultra rich clientele. I can't imagine what a regular Joe Schmo surgeon would do to my face.

You know who has a great plastic surgeon? Jane Fonda. That woman looks fabulous. Whoever does her work is an artist. I'd trust that guy if I had the dough.

From slowing down the aging. I think what we see - are people who repeat time after time

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and just keep going. Plastic surgery is highly addictive but I stopped mine because of what I saw on EKG of mine and thought no more. Having said that, so glad I did mine electives. I did it for me and it made me feel better about myself, especially the bags. I think any woman who does not like something about their appearance would have something done if they could afford. I would think most women like to look their best if they can. Any woman who says they are alright with just aging gracefully and being happy about it, then I think they probably just cannot afford but do a nip and tuck. If that was the case then the beauty business would not be making the billions it does. A good doctor makes all the difference. People need to do their research if they want this done, just like you would for most things, like PCP, dentist, GYN. Happy, happy girl and no one guesses my age.

Retinol - Mt

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Products with retinol do somewhat work, and you can buy them over the counter. They just aren't as strong as prescription strength. I use Neutrogena Rapid Wrinkle Repair with SPF. It's about $20 at Wal-Mart and lasts a couple months. No, it doesn't make the wrinkles go away, but it does plump up your skin temporarily. I'm 41 and am often mistaken for anywhere from 25 to 30. I was out shopping with a friend who is the same age as me, and the store clerk asked her if I was her daughter. Needless to say, I was thrilled! 40 was a horrible birthday for me and very depressing, but I decided to get in shape and started exercising regularly and drinking more water, and I guess it has paid off. Good luck to you and remember it is only a number. You are only as old as you feel, and I'm sure you look great! We are always our own worst critics. No one else can probably even see the lines you are worried about.

What I Do - see msg

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I am reaching 60 years old. People tell me I look 40-45.

I have always been a fan of drinking a lot of water. I do feel it keeps your circulation going really well and kind of "plumps out" wrinkles.

My facial routine? Walmart: Generic Cetaphil gentle cleansing wash, followed by generic Oil of Olay facial moisturzer. Then, if I'm going outdoors, I use BB cream, which is a Cover Girl tinted moisturizer/suncreen combo. It comes in several "tints," and has a sample on the tube so you can best choose your skin tint. It doesn't really hide anything, but it blends and evens out your skin tone.

I have pretty much always stayed away from eye makeup---the pulling and tugging of removing eye makeup is not a good plan, even if you're using baby oil. If you do feel you need eye makeup, just a dab will do, IMHO. Then kind of soak a cotton ball with baby oil and let it "sit" on the makeup before rubbing it off. Dabbing is always a better plan than rubbing and tugging.

Be happy with yourself--that shines through!

Can't stop time, but these simple makeup - tricks have helped me look younger:

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Moisturize immediately after washing your face.
Then apply a small amount of light concealer under eyes, against edge of nose.
Use a very minimal amount of liquid foundation over the moisturizer. Just a tad, even out complexion. Don't cake it on - it'll make wrinkles worse that way.
Use just a touch of blush on cheeks, blend well.
Use just a touch of powdered makeup where needed, none at all if you can get away with it, because the slight shine of foundation gives a softer, "dewy" look to skin.
Go easy on eye makeup, especially under the eyes. For daytime, I just curl the lashes, and use mascara on just the upper ones. For evening/going out, I use blended "smoky" liner on upper lid only, never on the lower lid. (Nothing ages you like under-eye eyeliner!) Instead, I use a touch on mascara on lower lashes, and white rim-liner on lower waterlines to make eyes look bigger, brighter.
I use light lipstick, never bright red, or dark. (The old saying is, "If you're old enough to remember wearing red lipstick as a teen, you're too old to wear it now!") Lips get wrinkles, too. I put on first a little SPF-30 Chapstick, then a light pink lipstick, and top that with "nude" lip gloss stick to smooth out the lines. Ditch the liner, too. NOBODY looks good with those fake, darkly-outlined lips.

And finally, don't make the "old lady" mistake of wearing your lipstick larger than your lips! ;D

Dont ditch the nude liner. Prevents lipstick feathering - which is a problem as one ages NM

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I've never tried nude liner; will have to someday! - Meanwhile, I find just a touch - sm

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of concealer in certain problem areas around my lips, like where I have an old scar, keep the color from feathering.

Olive oil/coconut oil - sm

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Most mornings I have a smoothie made with Greek yogurt, broccoli, carrots, bananas, oranges, apples, etc.

I add a teaspoon of olive oil and a teaspoon of flax seed, which I think I a key to good skin.

I put a teaspoon of coconut oil in my morning coffee (per Dr. Oz).

The frown lines have virtually disappeared and my skin looks better than it did years ago.

Also, I have cut down to 1 cup of caffeine coffee per day and rarely eat sugar and try to stay away from processed carbs.

I will also do facial exercises when I am out walking or driving. Your face has muscles that can be toned. Do a Google search on this.

Plenty of sleep, water and orgasms do the trick :) - wheres_my_job

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Stay hydrated, get your sleep, and sex. It'll all work out fine :)

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